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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 23, 2024 12:54:26 GMT
I understand why they are selling both tickets now, no issue with that. I also like how they have given existing ticket holders a long window to guarantee their seat, allows people plenty of time to save up if they need to. One thing I cant stand and needs looking at is why we can't buy the tickets together with one booking fee? Two booking fees is a joke, just comes across as a money grab. £3 per ticket, its not on. ...and before people mention it's purely a ticketmaster thing, Wrexham use the same platform and don't charge a booking fee. |
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Post by iot on Jan 23, 2024 13:05:30 GMT
Feels like a bit of a populist jibe to me. I'm sure their financial accounts as an organisation are available online, including spending on grassroots, and Mooney's always made a big point around channelling as much as possible down that route. Where do you think the money's going? I'm afraid that I don't have a particular agenda here, it's nothing more than one man's opinion. If the FAW were investing so much into grassroots football, why wouldn't they celebrate it? There's no indication of improvement in grass roots up here. Maybe there is in the South, I don't know. Colliers Park is probably the only obvious example of FAW spend in the North but that appears to be more of a facility to train up coaches rather than investing in grassroots. Hiring the facility for actual football is that pricy, even Wrexham have turned their nose at it. Personally, I think we're poorly spending a good deal of the cash. Expense bills are likely too high and we're spending too much on enterprises that we aren't receiving much benefit from. I'd like to know where you think the money has gone. I have no personal attachment to the FAW, but just feel there's a lot of throw-away remarks and populist stuff in football, whether it's all the shit that referees get or this caricature of the 'blazer brigade' at the FAW who are all in it for themselves. It's just going after easy targets that gets a lot of likes, usually based on a lot of nonsense. There's no doubt that for much of their history the FAW were a bunch of clowns who were more interested in going on a jolly than doing what's good for Welsh football (we've all heard the stories), but it's not the same organisation anymore. I haven't seen anything to suggest that they spend an unreasonable amount on expense bills - what do you base that on? In fact, you can read in between the lines of the financial data they release. Their latest report shows that the Trust turned over just under £6m, around £88k of that was spent on travelling costs which is about 1.5%. register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search?p_p_id=uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet&p_p_lifecycle=2&p_p_state=maximized&p_p_mode=view&p_p_resource_id=%2Faccounts-resource&p_p_cacheability=cacheLevelPage&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_objectiveId=A13101420&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_mvcRenderCommandName=%2Faccounts-and-annual-returns&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_organisationNumber=1057856I would imagine that the vast majority of the organisation's expenditure is on grassroots football. A quick search shows a figure of £4.3m recently announced in facilities across the country. That's never going to be enough to cover what's needed, but it's still a large chunk of the organisation's turnover. faw.cymru/news/4-3m-awarded-to-date-by-cymru-football-foundation-to-improve-facilities-across-wales/ |
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Post by iot on Jan 23, 2024 13:07:42 GMT
I understand why they are selling both tickets now, no issue with that. I also like how they have given existing ticket holders a long window to guarantee their seat, allows people plenty of time to save up if they need to. One thing I cant stand and needs looking at is why we can't buy the tickets together with one booking fee? Two booking fees is a joke, just comes across as a money grab. £3 per ticket, its not on. Again I think that's just a misunderstanding of the situation. The FAW don't receive the £3, it's the fee of the ticketing system. It annoys the hell out of me too, but it's probably there for an accounting reason. I certainly think the communications around this could have been much better because a lot of people probably feel ripped off. |
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Post by iot on Jan 23, 2024 13:09:43 GMT
I understand why they are selling both tickets now, no issue with that. I also like how they have given existing ticket holders a long window to guarantee their seat, allows people plenty of time to save up if they need to. One thing I cant stand and needs looking at is why we can't buy the tickets together with one booking fee? Two booking fees is a joke, just comes across as a money grab. £3 per ticket, its not on. ...and before people mention it's purely a ticketmaster thing, Wrexham use the same platform and don't charge a booking fee. Not sure how Wrexham do it, but I saw Phil Stead (who's written a lot about Welsh football) tweeting that the income doesn't go to the FAW, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 23, 2024 13:39:22 GMT
...and before people mention it's purely a ticketmaster thing, Wrexham use the same platform and don't charge a booking fee. Not sure how Wrexham do it, but I saw Phil Stead (who's written a lot about Welsh football) tweeting that the income doesn't go to the FAW, and I'm pretty sure he knows his stuff. Wrexham either have a different deal with Ticketmaster that allows them to forego the fee or they absorb the cost themselves. I didn't say the money goes to the FAW, but the FAW could do more to not make it look like they're ripping supporters off. They don't really help themselves. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 23, 2024 13:53:08 GMT
I'm afraid that I don't have a particular agenda here, it's nothing more than one man's opinion. If the FAW were investing so much into grassroots football, why wouldn't they celebrate it? There's no indication of improvement in grass roots up here. Maybe there is in the South, I don't know. Colliers Park is probably the only obvious example of FAW spend in the North but that appears to be more of a facility to train up coaches rather than investing in grassroots. Hiring the facility for actual football is that pricy, even Wrexham have turned their nose at it. Personally, I think we're poorly spending a good deal of the cash. Expense bills are likely too high and we're spending too much on enterprises that we aren't receiving much benefit from. I'd like to know where you think the money has gone. I have no personal attachment to the FAW, but just feel there's a lot of throw-away remarks and populist stuff in football, whether it's all the shit that referees get or this caricature of the 'blazer brigade' at the FAW who are all in it for themselves. It's just going after easy targets that gets a lot of likes, usually based on a lot of nonsense. There's no doubt that for much of their history the FAW were a bunch of clowns who were more interested in going on a jolly than doing what's good for Welsh football (we've all heard the stories), but it's not the same organisation anymore. I haven't seen anything to suggest that they spend an unreasonable amount on expense bills - what do you base that on? In fact, you can read in between the lines of the financial data they release. Their latest report shows that the Trust turned over just under £6m, around £88k of that was spent on travelling costs which is about 1.5%. register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search?p_p_id=uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet&p_p_lifecycle=2&p_p_state=maximized&p_p_mode=view&p_p_resource_id=%2Faccounts-resource&p_p_cacheability=cacheLevelPage&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_objectiveId=A13101420&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_mvcRenderCommandName=%2Faccounts-and-annual-returns&_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_priv_r_p_organisationNumber=1057856I would imagine that the vast majority of the organisation's expenditure is on grassroots football. A quick search shows a figure of £4.3m recently announced in facilities across the country. That's never going to be enough to cover what's needed, but it's still a large chunk of the organisation's turnover. faw.cymru/news/4-3m-awarded-to-date-by-cymru-football-foundation-to-improve-facilities-across-wales/Link doesn't work for me, but FAW's accounts on Companies House displays turnover of £23m in 2022 and does not detail what its over £11m administrative expenditure is compried of (they aren't required to). That's nearly half our turnover, which is very high. I don't have evidence of expenses being high, it's just word of mouth so could be complete bullshit and shouldn't be taken as gospel. Equally, I don't think the exec should be free of scrutiny either. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 23, 2024 16:42:36 GMT
The booking fee is a piss take, its 10% of the ticket price and for what?
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Post by gwernybwch on Jan 23, 2024 18:27:36 GMT
Link doesn't work for me, but FAW's accounts on Companies House displays turnover of £23m in 2022 and does not detail what its over £11m administrative expenditure is compried of (they aren't required to). That's nearly half our turnover, which is very high. I don't have evidence of expenses being high, it's just word of mouth so could be complete bullshit and shouldn't be taken as gospel. Equally, I don't think the exec should be free of scrutiny either. Over the last few years the FAW has bloated as an organisation. You only have to look at some of the recent jobs that they have advertised. There was a photo taken before they left for the U17 championship in Hungary. It looked like they took more background staff than players. Maybe this is what is needed to the achieve the consistent levels of professionalism that Gary Speed (and even Mark Hughes) thought were missing. But they have made some poor financial decisions over the last few years. With the most expensive being appointing Giggs. I doubt that much has changed with the Blazers. The last time that I came across the Blazers was in a restaurant in Croatia in 2019. It is fair to say that for the Blazers and their partners that 'el vino did flow' that night. Having said all that I am more than happy to pay £30 for a ticket for a potential 'meaningless friendly'. |
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 23, 2024 19:42:39 GMT
The booking fee is a piss take, its 10% of the ticket price and for what? It’s £3 rather than 10%. Every ticket pays the same, regardless of price category or adult, child etc. Ticketmaster / app presumably. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 23, 2024 20:18:39 GMT
Yeah I was talking about adult tickets, £3 is 10% of the ticket price. That's even worse if its £3 for cheaper tickets as well
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Post by llan123 on Jan 23, 2024 20:28:54 GMT
I understand why they are selling both tickets now, no issue with that. I also like how they have given existing ticket holders a long window to guarantee their seat, allows people plenty of time to save up if they need to. One thing I cant stand and needs looking at is why we can't buy the tickets together with one booking fee? Two booking fees is a joke, just comes across as a money grab. £3 per ticket, its not on. Again I think that's just a misunderstanding of the situation. The FAW don't receive the £3, it's the fee of the ticketing system. It annoys the hell out of me too, but it's probably there for an accounting reason. I certainly think the communications around this could have been much better because a lot of people probably feel ripped off. Two points on that. £3 is pretty hefty, especially when taking into consideration the amount of home tickets that are sold. The ticketing system sure earning a buck here. Second query, why can't we buy the tickets together? That should be an option too along with split tickets (so people can go to one if they can't make the other). I don't think its justified and it irks me. |
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Post by manulike on Jan 25, 2024 10:42:19 GMT
Has anyone heard back from UEFA about tickets from the DECEMBER ticket ballot yet?
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Post by Exile Jack on Jan 25, 2024 11:01:52 GMT
Has anyone heard back from UEFA about tickets from the DECEMBER ticket ballot yet? Another unsuccessful for me 😕 |
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Post by manulike on Jan 25, 2024 23:49:04 GMT
Has anyone heard back from UEFA about tickets from the DECEMBER ticket ballot yet? Another unsuccessful for me 😕 Thanks. Same here '=( |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 27, 2024 13:14:17 GMT
Pukki is still banging the goals in at club level, albeit at a lesser level than previous seasons but it's still a slight concern for me, we can't afford to go to sleep with his movement and predatory instincts.
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Post by gtm911 on Jan 29, 2024 6:17:26 GMT
What's the cut off date for these first round of members tickets for the play offs? My mate still hasn't got his and i'm worried the twerp will wreck the trip down to Cardiff.
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 29, 2024 9:34:06 GMT
What's the cut off date for these first round of members tickets for the play offs? My mate still hasn't got his and i'm worried the twerp will wreck the trip down to Cardiff. Midday next Monday, 5th February. |
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Post by manulike on Feb 2, 2024 10:11:15 GMT
Can we get the Barry Horns to bang out "Deutschland - mein Herz in Flammen" next month?
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Post by robwrecsam on Feb 2, 2024 10:19:48 GMT
Anyone got advice on renewing seat for the playoffs game? I can see my reserved tickets but trying to buy my dads at the same time. I saw the faw guide and I am set as able to manage his tickets but can’t see an option to add his seat to the basket.
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Post by dingodan on Feb 2, 2024 10:35:21 GMT
Anyone got advice on renewing seat for the playoffs game? I can see my reserved tickets but trying to buy my dads at the same time. I saw the faw guide and I am set as able to manage his tickets but can’t see an option to add his seat to the basket. You'll need your dad to log into his account to set you with permissions to manage his tickets. It's explained how to do this in the second part of the seat renewal instructions. |
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Post by robwrecsam on Feb 2, 2024 10:39:08 GMT
Anyone got advice on renewing seat for the playoffs game? I can see my reserved tickets but trying to buy my dads at the same time. I saw the faw guide and I am set as able to manage his tickets but can’t see an option to add his seat to the basket. You'll need your dad to log into his account to set you with permissions to manage his tickets. It's explained how to do this in the second part of the seat renewal instructions. Yeah I did read the instructions and I’m already set as being able to manage tickets and vice versa, he is computer illiterate and I bought his campaign ticket for him previously. Don’t know if I’m being blind but I can only see the option for my ticket (for both legs) being reserved though. |
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Post by dingodan on Feb 2, 2024 11:01:12 GMT
You'll need your dad to log into his account to set you with permissions to manage his tickets. It's explained how to do this in the second part of the seat renewal instructions. Yeah I did read the instructions and I’m already set as being able to manage tickets and vice versa, he is computer illiterate and I bought his campaign ticket for him previously. Don’t know if I’m being blind but I can only see the option for my ticket (for both legs) being reserved though. If it's not working for you then I'd email tickets@faw.co.uk asap as the renewal deadline is approaching. Hopefully they can either solve it or let you purchase over the phone. |
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 8, 2024 9:10:42 GMT
What’s everybody done?
I’ve renewed for both.
However there’s more tickets left for the potential final.
I don’t get it. I know it could be an expensive friendly, but we can’t qualify v Finland. If I could only go to one I’d be taking a chance on the Tuesday night.
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Post by dingodan on Feb 8, 2024 10:29:24 GMT
What’s everybody done? I’ve renewed for both. However there’s more tickets left for the potential final. I don’t get it. I know it could be an expensive friendly, but we can’t qualify v Finland. If I could only go to one I’d be taking a chance on the Tuesday night. If you don't risk the second game then you'll likely miss out if it does happen to be a playoff final. Many peeps missed out on the Ukraine game because of this. It's going to sellout before the outcome is decided! I can see why some would give it a second thought if having to travel down a distance for a second time within a matter of days. Not everyone fancies a midweek friendly against Estonia! |
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Post by manulike on Feb 8, 2024 11:18:00 GMT
What’s everybody done? I’ve renewed for both. However there’s more tickets left for the potential final. I don’t get it. I know it could be an expensive friendly, but we can’t qualify v Finland. If I could only go to one I’d be taking a chance on the Tuesday night. If you don't risk the second game then you'll likely miss out if it does happen to be a playoff final. Many peeps missed out on the Ukraine game because of this. It's going to sellout before the outcome is decided! I can see why some would give it a second thought if having to travel down a distance for a second time within a matter of days. Not everyone fancies a midweek friendly against Estonia! To be fair, I would be very surprised if many of those not booking their potential final are the North Wallian travellers. Most of which have been travelling home and away for the last 20 years.
I suspect that the bulk of those holding back are the new glory hunters from the South. Most probably live in Cardiff and Swansea. Many probably went to see the rugby on Saturday and paid over £100 without thinking twice - but they feel that £25 for football is excessive ;-(
The bottom line is - sadly - we probably have a core support of 500 that will travel almost anywhere ; another 1500 that will go to very remote places within Europe and perhaps 12k-15k that will attend all home games.
Anything beyond those 15k are really just new-blood post-2016.
Not a critisism. Just fact.
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Post by vvm on Feb 8, 2024 15:51:43 GMT
Since I didn't renew the red wall membership, I might be stuck for a ticket regardless but I was thinking of just doing the Finland game. That game is actually guaranteed to be on and I'd be pushing it with work to add the following Tuesday and Wednesday off work if we get through.
Hotel on the Thursday was about a third of the price of the following week and Thursday and Friday off work to make it a long weekend sounds better than a Tuesday and Wednesday.
I guess ultimately I can only really afford 1 game and it's pretty hard to make that the final.
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Post by iantov on Feb 8, 2024 18:13:35 GMT
Since I didn't renew the red wall membership, I might be stuck for a ticket regardless but I was thinking of just doing the Finland game. That game is actually guaranteed to be on and I'd be pushing it with work to add the following Tuesday and Wednesday off work if we get through. Hotel on the Thursday was about a third of the price of the following week and Thursday and Friday off work to make it a long weekend sounds better than a Tuesday and Wednesday. I guess ultimately I can only really afford 1 game and it's pretty hard to make that the final. Think positive and plan for the Final fella.  |
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 9, 2024 0:27:31 GMT
Since I didn't renew the red wall membership, I might be stuck for a ticket regardless but I was thinking of just doing the Finland game. That game is actually guaranteed to be on and I'd be pushing it with work to add the following Tuesday and Wednesday off work if we get through. Hotel on the Thursday was about a third of the price of the following week and Thursday and Friday off work to make it a long weekend sounds better than a Tuesday and Wednesday. I guess ultimately I can only really afford 1 game and it's pretty hard to make that the final. The Tuesday is in the Easter school holidays so may explain why. There’s plenty of tickets left at the mo. |
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Post by vvm on Feb 9, 2024 8:21:22 GMT
Surprising, maybe I will get sorted. I say all that above but if a final/friendly ticket is available then I might just go for it.
Could anyone post a picture of the ticket map?
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 9, 2024 9:55:43 GMT
Surprising, maybe I will get sorted. I say all that above but if a final/friendly ticket is available then I might just go for it. Could anyone post a picture of the ticket map? Can’t seem to post a photo from my phone, but the red seats are basically untouched. Many virtually no tickets sold blocks. The original Ninian stand still has multiple seats next to each other available. Opened up to 4 per member yesterday, can’t see many shifting before the general sale on the 20th. |
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