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Post by winsumluzsum on Mar 26, 2024 22:40:23 GMT
James looked very pale, I wasn’t confident. There it goes. Tough to lose to a team that didn't manage a single shot on target in 120 minutes.
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Post by robin1864 on Mar 26, 2024 22:43:44 GMT
Ward is fucking awful at penalties, looked like a child in goal. Gutted. I thought they were excellent penalties. Either clinical or composed. Just one of those thongs unfortunately. They were well taken, but Ward wasn't catching clap in a brothel tonight. Part of me wonders "what if" we brought on Hennessey for the shootout - it's a different game at that point and the psychological effect of seeing his imposing frame come on might have unnerved a few of their lads. |
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 26, 2024 22:43:57 GMT
James looked very pale, I wasn’t confident. There it goes. Tough to lose to a team that didn't manage a single shot on target in 120 minutes. Shocked to hear that they didn't have a shot on target. I was bricking it all match. |
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 26, 2024 22:46:21 GMT
We should have put them to the sword early in the 2nd half, but we fell back into being disjointed in the final 3rd. I wasn't too keen on the starting line-up or the substitutions, and I'm not sure what Page does during a game. I guess the performance against Finland was an anomaly, and normal service has been resumed.
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Post by Belle Vue on Mar 26, 2024 22:47:59 GMT
Shows how poor Finland were on Thursday night
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Post by welshrover on Mar 26, 2024 22:48:49 GMT
Whilst I realise it is academic, I thought Mepham won the ball when he was sent off.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Mar 26, 2024 22:52:42 GMT
Pretty much everybody had a decent game, and Ampadu and Davies were outstanding. But none of our forwards managed more than a 7 out of 10. Good but we needed someone to step up to the plate, and no one quite managed to pull it off.
I can't really find much fault with Page or the players. Overall I thought we deserved to win, but fell agonisingly short.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Mar 26, 2024 22:55:16 GMT
Whilst I realise it is academic, I thought Mepham won the ball when he was sent off. That was never a booking, although the ref was OK on the whole. Poland were a tad lucky not to concede a penalty for a clear push on Moore. That and the marginal offside, there are some games where you're never going to get the rub of the green. |
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Post by welshwhite on Mar 26, 2024 22:57:58 GMT
Better team won. Fair wnough. However Page bottled it again with subs. Leaving Moore on who was fucked after 70 mins with pens in mind. Really, Poland didn't have an effort on target. I thought we were better throughout, bar the last 15 mins of ET. Ampadu was outstanding. I thought the subs were odd, Moore was pretty ineffectual, I was sure Johnson would stay on and go central with DJ out wide. DJ to RWB ? don't think he's ever played there. Some of Page's thinking goes beyond the bizarre. But this was far ahead of anything we did in the WC, young team, bright future me thinks. |
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Post by morg on Mar 26, 2024 22:58:21 GMT
Proud of the team and the effort. We created the better chances but it wasn't to be.
No post mortems from me.
I hope this team grow from here and that one or two others emerge to challenge for places. Whether that should be with Page at the helm, I'm not sure. Just want to use the players we have to the best of their abilities and if there's someone else better equipped to do that, then so be it.
As an aside, presume that's the first time that the Welsh men's team have ever faced extra time or penalties ?
Cymru am Byth.
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 26, 2024 22:58:56 GMT
Whilst I realise it is academic, I thought Mepham won the ball when he was sent off. That was never a booking, although the ref was OK on the whole. Poland were a tad lucky not to concede a penalty for a clear push on Moore. That and the marginal offside, there are some games where you're never going to get the rub of the green. I do think we could be more aggressive with Center Forwards. Moore doesn't get anything. It's crazy how bad he gets roughed up and gets nothing. |
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Post by hooky on Mar 26, 2024 23:00:45 GMT
I am not blaming Page in a negative sense but he just does not seem to make proactive or positive changes does he? 90 mins and we would have made one change if Robert hadn't have got injured
Poland looked more likely to score in extra time and were dominating possession but are pretty average.
We were lucky to have a play off place after messing up our group twice and then we get home play offs, so we had all the luck we could have wished for. Just a shame we lost to a pretty average, albeit competent team
No fault on any player - it is what it is. Just back to normal - no team to support in a tournament again and I can't see us getting near to getting to a WC with the manager or the squad of players we have to be honest. They are good but not top class
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 26, 2024 23:03:57 GMT
Better team won. Fair wnough. However Page bottled it again with subs. Leaving Moore on who was fucked after 70 mins with pens in mind. Really, Poland didn't have an effort on target. I thought we were better throughout, bar the last 15 mins. Ampadu was outstanding. I thought the subs were odd, Moore was pretty ineffectual, I was sure Johnson would stay on and go central with DJ out wide. DJ to RWB ? don't think he's ever played there. Some of Page's thinking goes beyond the bizarre. But this was far ahead of anything we did in the WC, young team, bright future me thinks. I would have started with Wilson, Johnson and James up front if Brooks was ill, instead we ended up not knowing whether to play the ball on the ground or in the air. I can't wait for somebody like Koumas to come through, and then we can play with a back 4. |
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Post by melynwy on Mar 26, 2024 23:05:25 GMT
Shows how poor Finland were on Thursday night It had nothing to do with the Finland game. Football doesn’t work like that. In very general terms, it shows that Wales and Poland are better than Finland and Estonia, and that barely anything in it between Wales and Poland. Which is what a lot of people expected. |
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 26, 2024 23:08:27 GMT
In very general terms, it shows that Wales and Poland are better than Finland and Estonia, and that barely anything in it between Wales and Poland. Which is what a lot of people expected. The way both teams were set up kind of negated each other too. |
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Post by underwood on Mar 26, 2024 23:08:55 GMT
No blame anywhere, we did well to get ourselves into this position after only taking 1 point off Armenia, but 4 off Croatia, which is essentially the crux of the matter.
Number one, their penalties were all technically excellent & the longer the shootout had gone on, the more likely they would keep scoring & we wouldn’t.
Number two, Rambo for Brooks would have been my change with penalties in mind, but I bet he can barely jog, so fair enough.
And number three, since when do we boo anthems? Don’t turn us into England Lite please, I’m not interested in supporting a team that has fans that don’t have respect for others, we are better than that.
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Post by hooky on Mar 26, 2024 23:13:58 GMT
Yep the booing made me ashamed as a Welsh fan for the first time. Really bizarre and out of place
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Post by surge on Mar 26, 2024 23:21:06 GMT
Yep the booing made me ashamed as a Welsh fan for the first time. Really bizarre and out of place Me too. I tried to shush then then clap loudly after (louder than normal) but obviously didn't work. I feel empty right now. Somewhat proud of the effort of the side, somewhat wishing we could see this side from the start of the qualifying group.... But I do feel pissed off at the booing of their anthem. That really isn't us at our best. Sorry to any Polish fans reading this board. |
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Post by surge on Mar 26, 2024 23:25:28 GMT
Fans staying at the end was a much better moment for us - that's much closer to our best.
Players keeping going to the end despite some being dead on their feet was a much prouder moment for us too.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Mar 26, 2024 23:38:19 GMT
Gutted. Unlucky no faulting the effort or tactics. Just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. At least we won't have to endure a very difficult group in the Euros. Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... |
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Post by underwood on Mar 26, 2024 23:46:07 GMT
Gutted. Unlucky no faulting the effort or tactics. Just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. At least we won't have to endure a very difficult group in the Euros. Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... Yes, Poland are going to get brushed aside, just like we would have done. The downside is that the next two tournaments after this are either too far away a la Qatar, or too close for it not to be a proper trip. France 2016 really was it for us. |
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Post by morg on Mar 26, 2024 23:47:47 GMT
Gutted. Unlucky no faulting the effort or tactics. Just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. At least we won't have to endure a very difficult group in the Euros. Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... Still a tad defeatist? Think we'd have been sending a better team to Euro 24 than we did to Qatar or Euro 20. Could have lost all 3 but I reckon we'd have been competitive, our squad would have benefitted and we'd have a few more million in the bank. Not to mention the chance for the Red Wall to have another tour. |
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Post by welrus on Mar 26, 2024 23:56:16 GMT
Gutted. Unlucky no faulting the effort or tactics. Just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. At least we won't have to endure a very difficult group in the Euros. Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... Sure. Academically you may maybe right. But first you need to get there. If you work on the premise we are might get beaten so it’s better not to qualify where’s the hope. There are always upsets in group stages and I’m sure we had a good shout at causing one |
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 26, 2024 23:57:57 GMT
Gutted. Unlucky no faulting the effort or tactics. Just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. At least we won't have to endure a very difficult group in the Euros. Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... From me, all the best to Poland. They're a good country, i think they're really good people too, hopefully they can do something at the tournament. I would have loved to have been there, but we aren't so I hope they enjoy the Euros and give it their all. |
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Post by welrus on Mar 26, 2024 23:58:11 GMT
Yep the booing made me ashamed as a Welsh fan for the first time. Really bizarre and out of place Yes booing was disappointing but, although it’s not an excuse, I thought it was triggered by Poles setting off flares. |
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Post by maelor on Mar 27, 2024 0:13:33 GMT
Yep the booing made me ashamed as a Welsh fan for the first time. Really bizarre and out of place Yes booing was disappointing but, although it’s not an excuse, I thought it was triggered by Poles setting off flares. I think it was triggered by people remembering that the Polish fans booed and whistled the pants off our anthem at our home Nations League game against them. They pretty much destroyed it even though we'd just totally respected and applauded theirs. It was a pity we reduced ourselves to their level. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Mar 27, 2024 0:18:52 GMT
Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... Yes, Poland are going to get brushed aside, just like we would have done. The downside is that the next two tournaments after this are either too far away a la Qatar, or too close for it not to be a proper trip. France 2016 really was it for us. If that's all she wrote for Welsh football and we go back to the dark ages I'm still happy with what we've accomplished. I never thought we'd qualify for a major tournament in my lifetime, to make 3 and even reach the semis in one is an incredible achievement for a nation of our size. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Mar 27, 2024 0:19:42 GMT
Yep. I made that point about the Euros group on another thread, which was met with derision at the time lol. But I stand by it, it's a horrible group and at least now we can relax and watch Poland getting spanked in it instead of us. Every cloud... Still a tad defeatist? Think we'd have been sending a better team to Euro 24 than we did to Qatar or Euro 20. Could have lost all 3 but I reckon we'd have been competitive, our squad would have benefitted and we'd have a few more million in the bank. Not to mention the chance for the Red Wall to have another tour. Possibly. You've really got to dig for the positives on a night like this. |
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Post by quetzal on Mar 27, 2024 0:21:22 GMT
It was the flares. Booing the flares. Move on.
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Post by ddirpytnop on Mar 27, 2024 0:28:36 GMT
It was the flares. Booing the flares. Move on. Quite right. Any shame lies with the Polish fans committing that particular criminal offence. |
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