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Post by jbt95 on Jun 7, 2024 12:20:04 GMT
Complete amateur isn’t it. Even Phil Parkinson at Wrexham is only on a rolling 1 year contract as the people in charge are professionals and know how quickly things can change in football, even with all the credit Parky has in the bank, which hopefully continues but there may come a point where we need to part ways. A 4 year contract in international football is absolute madness. Was the last time we had a manager taken off us Mark Hughes? Can't remember if Coleman left us for Sunderland or whether he was out of work when it came up. Probably could gamble that no one will want our manager in future though. I think Coleman was out of contract? Left us straight after the November play-off window and joined Sunderland. |
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Post by CymruFach on Jun 7, 2024 12:52:19 GMT
Saw a post online that said Ynys Mon beat Gibraltar 3 1 !!!!!! (Island games ?)
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Post by vvm on Jun 7, 2024 13:09:54 GMT
Agree with the feeling it felt like a trialists game. Made me think back to going to football try outs in college and uni. None of you know each other, you're not really playing as a team and there's no tactical plan. You just play within yourself, show off what you can do, don't make any mistakes and hope you get picked at the end.
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Post by marsvolta on Jun 7, 2024 14:40:16 GMT
Agree with the feeling it felt like a trialists game. Made me think back to going to football try outs in college and uni. None of you know each other, you're not really playing as a team and there's no tactical plan. You just play within yourself, show off what you can do, don't make any mistakes and hope you get picked at the end. I started playing with myself towards the end of that game. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Jun 7, 2024 14:58:39 GMT
Agree with the feeling it felt like a trialists game. Made me think back to going to football try outs in college and uni. None of you know each other, you're not really playing as a team and there's no tactical plan. You just play within yourself, show off what you can do, don't make any mistakes and hope you get picked at the end. I started playing with myself towards the end of that game. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 7, 2024 16:41:14 GMT
I think it’s taxi time for page. Most fans seem to have turned on him and when that happens very rarely does a manger come back from it.
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 7, 2024 18:00:52 GMT
Saw a post online that said Ynys Mon beat Gibraltar 3 1 !!!!!! (Island games ?) Gibraltar were awful back in the day. Would regularly lose to micro nations. No doubt have improved. Their record in the Island Games is awful 😂 |
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Post by neverever on Jun 7, 2024 18:38:27 GMT
Saw a post online that said Ynys Mon beat Gibraltar 3 1 !!!!!! (Island games ?) Gibraltar were awful back in the day. Would regularly lose to micro nations. No doubt have improved. Their record in the Island Games is awful 😂 Anglesey Island football squad beaten them 3 times & lost twice and drawn one 1-1....... |
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Post by talyfan on Jun 7, 2024 18:43:17 GMT
Forget Mullin we should've called up Mel McGuinness. He'd have sorted them  |
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Post by ddirpytnop on Jun 7, 2024 20:53:45 GMT
Romania (qualified for Euros without losing a game) 0 - 0 Liechtenstein (ranked 1 place higher than Gibralter) 0. England (tournament favourites) 0 - 1 Iceland. Scotland 2 - 2 Finland (a team we thrashed a couple of months ago). Perhaps places our result last night into some perspective?
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 7, 2024 20:59:17 GMT
England losing tonight v Iceland has to be a bigger embarrassment than when they lost v them in the 2016 Euros?
Iceland were very strong back then and England had one of their worst teams. Now England are favourites to win the tournament and Iceland didn’t qualify and haven’t been close to the last 2 tournaments.
Either way, makes our result v Gibraltar look half decent!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 7, 2024 21:04:44 GMT
England losing tonight v Iceland has to be a bigger embarrassment than when they lost v them in the 2016 Euros? Iceland were very strong back then and England had one of their worst teams. Now England are favourites to win the tournament and Iceland didn’t qualify and haven’t been close to the last 2 tournaments. Either way, makes our result v Gibraltar look half decent! It's by far a worse result than our draw, a total embarrassment. On the eve of a tournament they are meant to win they are losing to a very poor Iceland side (containing maybe 1 or 2 top flight players) with a strong side out themselves, most of their top players were starting. That's a proper embarrassment |
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Post by wft on Jun 8, 2024 11:50:23 GMT
Page doesn’t have to play a totally weekend team tomorrow. What harm would it do to play a few experianced players to help the youngsters and then mix it up again for the next game. There will be plenty of EFL experience on the pitch. We will win, I have no doubts about that You were so wrong  |
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Post by jimexotic on Jun 8, 2024 13:15:11 GMT
I think there's been an overreaction to Thursdays result, if we'd have started or been able to start any two of Brooks, Wilson, Neco, Moore, Dan James or Brennan we'd have won. It was just a totally meaningless friendly and as a result it played out that way.
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Post by reyrey on Jun 8, 2024 18:27:01 GMT
I think there's been an overreaction to Thursdays result, if we'd have started or been able to start any two of Brooks, Wilson, Neco, Moore, Dan James or Brennan we'd have won. It was just a totally meaningless friendly and as a result it played out that way. But we didn’t and we were shit and that’s the managers fault because he did not have to pick that team. |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jun 8, 2024 18:51:13 GMT
I think there's been an overreaction to Thursdays result, if we'd have started or been able to start any two of Brooks, Wilson, Neco, Moore, Dan James or Brennan we'd have won. It was just a totally meaningless friendly and as a result it played out that way. That’s no saving grace. The team we put out should have still won comfortably. All playing levels above the standard that the Gibraltarians play at. The fact that they didn’t win still reflects poorly on Page’s tactics and game management. He’s shown this to be a pattern, and that he as a manager is not improving. The fact that Page had to panic on 60 minutes against Gibraltar emphasises the fact that it wasn’t pointless. No game is truly ‘meaningless’ - particularly when under pressure as much as Page is. I can’t believe we are stuck with him for the next 2 years. Unforgivable from Mooney and the FAW. This will inevitably have a negative knock-on effect on our ability to attract and retain the incredibly large number of multinationals in our pool, too - these players are of upmost importance to our success. Keeping Page in charge will only exacerbate our problems. Given our reliance on our pathways being topnotch and linked-up, Osian gets my vote. Although, I fear, we’ve missed yet another boat in this regard! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 8, 2024 20:51:41 GMT
No Mepham or Ben Davies tomorrow, confirmed by Page. So looks like Ampadu will have to play CB (I can't see Baker starting)
Ward
Cabango-Low-Ampadu
Stevens-JJ-Sheehan-Dasilva
Colwill-Broadhead
Brennan
Think that's what I'd go with. See if we can get better performances out of Stevens, Sheehan & Colwill with some better players around them. Another opportunity to see if Dasilva & Low can build on positive performances on Thursday against better opposition
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 8, 2024 21:14:13 GMT
I think he'll go with a 4-2-3-1 again. Given the pressure he's under he's bound to select our strongest lineup:
Ward
Stevens Cabango Low Dasilva
Ampadu JJ
Johnson Broadhead James
Moore
He may replace Low with Ampadu and bring Sheehan in alongside JJ.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 8, 2024 21:18:16 GMT
I think he'll go with a 4-2-3-1 again. Given the pressure he's under he's bound to select our strongest lineup: Ward Stevens Cabango Low Dasilva Ampadu JJ Johnson Broadhead James Moore He may replace Low with Ampadu and bring Sheehan in alongside JJ. Think he's more likely to revert the system rather than the personnel. He's also said in interview today that these friendlies are about squad development with an eye on the Nations League so I don't think he'll worry too much about a loss. It's not like he'll be sacked if he loses this one |
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Post by talyfan on Jun 8, 2024 21:53:21 GMT
No Mepham or Ben Davies tomorrow, confirmed by Page. So looks like Ampadu will have to play CB (I can't see Baker starting) Ward Cabango-Low-Ampadu Stevens-JJ-Sheehan-Dasilva Colwill-Broadhead Brennan Think that's what I'd go with. See if we can get better performances out of Stevens, Sheehan & Colwill with some better players around them. Another opportunity to see if Dasilva & Low can build on positive performances on Thursday against better opposition If we're starting Colwill would rather give the minutes to Koumas |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 8, 2024 22:06:50 GMT
I don't think Page will be sacked if we lose, given the defensive weaknesses. However, if we lose and play badly again then that becomes a possibility. Page and the players will be mindful of this possibility so I expect a reaction and plenty of effort at least. That was the most disappointing part of the Gibraltar performance, only Koumas looked like taking the game by the scruff of the neck.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jun 8, 2024 22:10:01 GMT
This is what I’d go for:
Ward
Wesley Stevens Low Cabango DaSilva
JJ Amps
Brennan Koumas
Moore
Half time - Rubin on for Brennan.
DJ on for Moore.
Koumas moving furthest forward.
……And of course, most importantly, Tom King on for Wardy (still can’t believe he subbed him on in the manner that he did!)
Still very frustrated that Joe Taylor isn’t involved in any capacity!
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Post by njdragon on Jun 9, 2024 5:52:02 GMT
I think there's been an overreaction to Thursdays result, if we'd have started or been able to start any two of Brooks, Wilson, Neco, Moore, Dan James or Brennan we'd have won. It was just a totally meaningless friendly and as a result it played out that way. That’s no saving grace. The team we put out should have still won comfortably. All playing levels above the standard that the Gibraltarians play at. The fact that they didn’t win still reflects poorly on Page’s tactics and game management. He’s shown this to be a pattern, and that he as a manager is not improving. The fact that Page had to panic on 60 minutes against Gibraltar emphasises the fact that it wasn’t pointless. No game is truly ‘meaningless’ - particularly when under pressure as much as Page is. I can’t believe we are stuck with him for the next 2 years. Unforgivable from Mooney and the FAW. This will inevitably have a negative knock-on effect on our ability to attract and retain the incredibly large number of multinationals in our pool, too - these players are of upmost importance to our success. Keeping Page in charge will only exacerbate our problems. Given our reliance on our pathways being topnotch and linked-up, Osian gets my vote. Although, I fear, we’ve missed yet another boat in this regard! Page confirmed after that those 3 coming on was pre planned to give them minutes before Slovakia |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jun 9, 2024 6:25:57 GMT
That’s no saving grace. The team we put out should have still won comfortably. All playing levels above the standard that the Gibraltarians play at. The fact that they didn’t win still reflects poorly on Page’s tactics and game management. He’s shown this to be a pattern, and that he as a manager is not improving. The fact that Page had to panic on 60 minutes against Gibraltar emphasises the fact that it wasn’t pointless. No game is truly ‘meaningless’ - particularly when under pressure as much as Page is. I can’t believe we are stuck with him for the next 2 years. Unforgivable from Mooney and the FAW. This will inevitably have a negative knock-on effect on our ability to attract and retain the incredibly large number of multinationals in our pool, too - these players are of upmost importance to our success. Keeping Page in charge will only exacerbate our problems. Given our reliance on our pathways being topnotch and linked-up, Osian gets my vote. Although, I fear, we’ve missed yet another boat in this regard! Page confirmed after that those 3 coming on was pre planned to give them minutes before Slovakia For me, that was a convenient excuse from him. Not like we’re gearing up and needing to give players minutes for match fitness in time for a tournament (unfortunately). His whole act is damage control, arse-saving now e.g. the “in transition” statements etc. |
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Post by kracken88 on Jun 9, 2024 6:45:59 GMT
I never thought I had it in me to want us to get smashed,but I hope Slovakia smash us, only for one obvious outcome
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 9, 2024 7:18:00 GMT
We had an average age of around 25 in the last campaign so all this talk of “transition” is a smokescreen to save face and save his arse.
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 9, 2024 7:21:59 GMT
Over the weekend I read a few of Cardiff and swans fans forums. Wow definitely no love lost for page from either side (and a huge percentage of Welsh support).
Hard to see how much longer he can carry on particularly if we get a few more dodgy results.
Feels like a lame horse waiting to be put out of his misery.
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 9, 2024 8:02:06 GMT
I can’t see them getting rid of him.
We are unbeaten in 9 games, and 11 of the last 13.
It’s just that we don’t get in front enough. It’s fine margins but Page could be that margin. We just don’t go for it enough sometimes.
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Post by hooky on Jun 9, 2024 8:22:39 GMT
I always want us to win
I would love Wales to go on a long winning streak
but Page is clearly falling short so it seems highly unlikely
A big criticism of Page for me is you may not be talented but then you bring in quality into the coaching group to mitigate your weaknesses - someone with new ideas / tactical awareness
Giggs kept on the Continental staff and brought another in didn't he? We saw said staff exit early into Page's reign then we saw his ex friends from Sheffield Utd brought in and most recently Gunter. That last decision in particular demonstrated that Page really is in the dark ages - defensive, far from open minded and in no way strategically minded. He is also in no way a good manager - a good manager assembles the best team from a wide talent pool. Its really sad actually. Maybe he has a mate at Port Vale he is waiting to bring on board at the right time! Such stupid decisions reflect in my view insecurity and a need to be surrounded by support and friends rather than people who will call things out! It is not good enough to be a cheerleader and mates as a squad as everything gets negative when you underperform, fail to win games and when the players start blaming the quality of coaching compared to what they get at their clubs. Its like a fan managing Wales - yes we would fail as well!
Giggs seems to be a bad person in certain respects but seemed comfortable in his own skin and seemed to be comfortable with a diverse backup staff. He was even happy to continue with Osian by his side but Osian did the right thing as he was clearly upset not getting the top job but did the right thing and move on to a new opportunity rather than sit there no doubt with a bit of resentment. He may fail but as I have said someone like Osian would be a worthy replacement for Page. Giggs would be too as he would clearly be an upgrade, but not many of us of course would want him back now given his baggage
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jun 9, 2024 8:39:04 GMT
I can’t see them getting rid of him. We are unbeaten in 9 games, and 11 of the last 13. It’s just that we don’t get in front enough. It’s fine margins but Page could be that margin. We just don’t go for it enough sometimes. Please don’t give Page any ideas on how to frame it positively! |
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