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Post by marsvolta on Jul 5, 2024 19:02:20 GMT
Got to admit that I haven’t heard of him. Obviously I’m aware that Oxford are doing well and got promoted (with a couple of Welsh boys) but didn’t know who the manager was. |
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Post by manulike on Jul 5, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
I find it difficult to get excited about a youngster that has trained NZ U23 and Mumbai City ;-(
#Craig4Me
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Post by manulike on Jul 5, 2024 19:25:54 GMT
Here's a recent Bellamy interview with Gary Neville (starts at around 4:30), seems like he has matured a bit and takes a lot of responsibility for his past behaviour. He sees a psychologist weekly as well and this has helped him understand why he reacts to things a bit more Think it's reasonable to suggest that maybe he has moved past that hot head phase that many remember him for www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXoqgry7YVE&ab_channel=TheOverlapThanks for that. Craig comes across really well spoken and mature. Great listen
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Post by jsc on Jul 6, 2024 14:12:27 GMT
Where is the connection with the Oxford manager then? Bizarre.
Would he even leave a championship club to come to us?
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Post by marsvolta on Jul 6, 2024 14:38:43 GMT
Where is the connection with the Oxford manager then? Bizarre. Would he even leave a championship club to come to us? The only link seems to be his odds shortening in one of the betting firms, maybe someone in the know is putting money on him ? (I know this isn’t the Tory party but something made the bookies stick his name on the list) |
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Post by jsc on Jul 6, 2024 14:49:28 GMT
Where is the connection with the Oxford manager then? Bizarre. Would he even leave a championship club to come to us? The only link seems to be his odds shortening in one of the betting firms, maybe someone in the know is putting money on him ? (I know this isn’t the Tory party but something made the bookies stick his name on the list) Yea, not Welsh, never managed a Welsh club, as far as I know didn't do his badges via faw? And just a pretty random name |
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Post by redwall65 on Jul 6, 2024 16:02:07 GMT
The only link seems to be his odds shortening in one of the betting firms, maybe someone in the know is putting money on him ? (I know this isn’t the Tory party but something made the bookies stick his name on the list) Yea, not Welsh, never managed a Welsh club, as far as I know didn't do his badges via faw? And just a pretty random name Sadly people don’t want it… the FAW don’t have a short list and are desperately trying to find someone. People are turning it down left right and centre… |
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Post by manulike on Jul 6, 2024 16:03:06 GMT
Gareth Southgate?
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Post by redwall65 on Jul 6, 2024 16:05:26 GMT
A 2.3m a year salary to 400k …. so probably not 🤣 |
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Post by manulike on Jul 6, 2024 17:02:27 GMT
Yea, not Welsh, never managed a Welsh club, as far as I know didn't do his badges via faw? And just a pretty random name Sadly people don’t want it… the FAW don’t have a short list and are desperately trying to find someone. People are turning it down left right and centre… It might not carry a lot of money, but it certainly offers job security and (IMHO) is quite lucrative. Four years and a pad in Cardiff Bay. Can't be that bad?
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Post by marsvolta on Jul 6, 2024 18:03:22 GMT
Yea, not Welsh, never managed a Welsh club, as far as I know didn't do his badges via faw? And just a pretty random name Sadly people don’t want it… the FAW don’t have a short list and are desperately trying to find someone. People are turning it down left right and centre… It’s becoming clearer why they gave Page a four year contract ha ha. Joking aside, we don’t actually know if anyone other than Osian has turned it down, just internet rumours.(not that Osian was officially offered the job, they just sounded him out) |
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Post by redwall65 on Jul 6, 2024 18:28:57 GMT
Sadly people don’t want it… the FAW don’t have a short list and are desperately trying to find someone. People are turning it down left right and centre… It’s becoming clearer why they gave Page a four year contract ha ha. Joking aside, we don’t actually know if anyone other than Osian has turned it down, just internet rumours.(not that Osian was officially offered the job, they just sounded him out) They didn’t want Osh… not a big enough name for Wiggy. People are turning it down… and it’s more than just rumours. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 6, 2024 20:05:10 GMT
"The FAW are looking for a coach with a proven track record of delivering success at club and/or international level."
Does this virtually rule out candidates that have only succeeded as assistants?
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Post by morg on Jul 7, 2024 8:59:51 GMT
Where is the connection with the Oxford manager then? Bizarre. Would he even leave a championship club to come to us? The only link seems to be his odds shortening in one of the betting firms, maybe someone in the know is putting money on him ? (I know this isn’t the Tory party but something made the bookies stick his name on the list) Welsh link. oceaniafootballcenter.org/2019/12/18/des-buckingham-graduates-as-master-of-science/Has an impressive CV in terms of his readiness to seek challenges globally. Maybe FAW are trying to get him before he makes too much of a mark in the English system. Seems like the type of Manager/profile that Swansea often takes a punt on and most of those have gone onto very successful careers |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 7, 2024 10:50:06 GMT
This would be a big gamble, but he's obviously done well with Oxford. If he were appointed it would only be for good reasons relating to his capabilities as a manager and not as a "name". There's a lot to be said for capturing a manager on the rise before they become able to command a salary in excess of what we could afford.
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Post by rushy on Jul 7, 2024 12:28:11 GMT
Honestly think we need a fresh approach, both mentally and tactically, someone the squad will have respect for, the Euros have shown that with the right structure in place it's possible to give a decent account of yourselves as quite a few of the lesser teams have shown apart from the Scots.
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Post by manulike on Jul 7, 2024 12:39:33 GMT
Honestly think we need a fresh approach, both mentally and tactically, someone the squad will have respect for, the Euros have shown that with the right structure in place it's possible to give a decent account of yourselves as quite a few of the lesser teams have shown apart from the Scots. agree |
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Post by Counting Crows on Jul 7, 2024 12:44:25 GMT
I think a coach with experience of taking unfancied countries to tournaments is what this squad needs to get the best out of it. We have the nucleus of a very tidy squad. I'd like to see a coach be employed who will look to make the most of our players.
Imagine something like:
Nico - Meps/Cabango - Rodon - Davies
Ampadu - Wilson - James
DJ - Bradshaw/Broadhead - Johnson
Then having the option to bring Brooks or Ramsey off the bench to change or shore-up games, and using Moore like the Dutch use Weighorst.
There's no reason a seasoned and intelligent coach couldn't use our resources to achieve top-2 finishes in the next few qualy campaigns.
I'd also like to think such a coach, with no pre-conceptions, would stick Maxwell in from the start since he's the only keeper playing regularly!
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 7, 2024 13:13:17 GMT
Maxwell played only 9 times last season...
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Post by njdragon on Jul 7, 2024 16:17:18 GMT
I think a coach with experience of taking unfancied countries to tournaments is what this squad needs to get the best out of it. We have the nucleus of a very tidy squad. I'd like to see a coach be employed who will look to make the most of our players. If only we had a coach who has already taken unfancied teams to tournaments. t’s sad state of affairs if we’re genuinely looking at the Oxford manager. Lots made of pages CV before wales (just a port vale manager etc) but perhaps check out his cv now. We had a coach who: Led us out of a group stage at the euros Qualified for our first World Cup in 60 years Narrowly missed out on penalties (we were the better side) against Poland (without our world beaters in Ramsey, Allen and bale). Plenty of high profile teams beaten under his tenure. Lots of talk about tactics but he got us so close with 3 of our best ever players gone. He must have been doing something right… I know most will find that hard to accept |
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Post by Counting Crows on Jul 7, 2024 18:06:01 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jul 7, 2024 20:08:55 GMT
I am a beliver. Would hate to have Georgia from pot two - although would love the away trip. Everyone else, I'm pretty happy with ;-) |
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Post by pclaude on Jul 7, 2024 22:42:55 GMT
Might a good NL campaign possibly put us int Pot 1? Or do they do the seeding according to NL rather than rankings? EDIT- last time it was rankings. With 12 groups, last time we would have been pot 1 |
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Post by jono on Jul 8, 2024 6:37:45 GMT
Might a good NL campaign possibly put us int Pot 1? Or do they do the seeding according to NL rather than rankings? EDIT- last time it was rankings. With 12 groups, last time we would have been pot 1 Might be possible but we'd need to be winning our NL group really....possibly undefeated. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jul 8, 2024 7:02:19 GMT
Might a good NL campaign possibly put us int Pot 1? Or do they do the seeding according to NL rather than rankings? EDIT- last time it was rankings. With 12 groups, last time we would have been pot 1 Might be possible but we'd need to be winning our NL group really....possibly undefeated. So not remotely likely then. |
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Post by jono on Jul 8, 2024 7:04:30 GMT
Might be possible but we'd need to be winning our NL group really....possibly undefeated. So not remotely likely then. It's certainly a group we can win. Undefeated? Not likely. |
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jul 8, 2024 7:12:20 GMT
So not remotely likely then. It's certainly a group we can win. Undefeated? Not likely. I'm afraid I can't see us finishing ahead of Türkiye. I'd be quite happy consolidating our position in League B. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 8, 2024 7:29:16 GMT
I think a coach with experience of taking unfancied countries to tournaments is what this squad needs to get the best out of it. We have the nucleus of a very tidy squad. I'd like to see a coach be employed who will look to make the most of our players. If only we had a coach who has already taken unfancied teams to tournaments. t’s sad state of affairs if we’re genuinely looking at the Oxford manager. Lots made of pages CV before wales (just a port vale manager etc) but perhaps check out his cv now. We had a coach who: Led us out of a group stage at the euros Qualified for our first World Cup in 60 years Narrowly missed out on penalties (we were the better side) against Poland (without our world beaters in Ramsey, Allen and bale). Plenty of high profile teams beaten under his tenure. Lots of talk about tactics but he got us so close with 3 of our best ever players gone. He must have been doing something right… I know most will find that hard to accept Please Mr Page let it go. |
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Post by njdragon on Jul 8, 2024 7:41:56 GMT
If only we had a coach who has already taken unfancied teams to tournaments. t’s sad state of affairs if we’re genuinely looking at the Oxford manager. Lots made of pages CV before wales (just a port vale manager etc) but perhaps check out his cv now. We had a coach who: Led us out of a group stage at the euros Qualified for our first World Cup in 60 years Narrowly missed out on penalties (we were the better side) against Poland (without our world beaters in Ramsey, Allen and bale). Plenty of high profile teams beaten under his tenure. Lots of talk about tactics but he got us so close with 3 of our best ever players gone. He must have been doing something right… I know most will find that hard to accept Please Mr Page let it go. Predictable troll |
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Post by iot on Jul 8, 2024 12:36:44 GMT
I think a coach with experience of taking unfancied countries to tournaments is what this squad needs to get the best out of it. We have the nucleus of a very tidy squad. I'd like to see a coach be employed who will look to make the most of our players. If only we had a coach who has already taken unfancied teams to tournaments. t’s sad state of affairs if we’re genuinely looking at the Oxford manager. Lots made of pages CV before wales (just a port vale manager etc) but perhaps check out his cv now. We had a coach who: Led us out of a group stage at the euros Qualified for our first World Cup in 60 years Narrowly missed out on penalties (we were the better side) against Poland (without our world beaters in Ramsey, Allen and bale). Plenty of high profile teams beaten under his tenure. Lots of talk about tactics but he got us so close with 3 of our best ever players gone. He must have been doing something right… I know most will find that hard to accept It’s a very fair point. Page had to go in the end because of the breakdown in relationship with the fans and the potential for a toxic environment. But while I think Page is far from being the next Pep, I was always skeptical about whether we could get a better manager in on our budget. What I’ve seen so far isn’t putting my mind at ease at all. |
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