Next manager poll / discussion

[erasedcitizen]

There's some Oxford fans saying it's a done deal with Buckingham.

Wouldn't be adverse to the idea, it's certainly a refreshing approach hiring a manager on the up. My only concern would be over his ability to convince players to turn up and put a shift in. If he's able to manage that aspect, this could be a very exciting hire.

[bluebird68]

Odds on Des Buckingham becoming new Wales boss have been slashed and he now leads the field ahead of Craig Bellamy and Thierry Henry

nation.cymru/sport/oxford-united-manager-now-favourite-in-the-running-for-wales-job/

[winsumluzsum]

This article gives a flavour of what Buckingham has to offer:

www.coachesvoice.com/cv/des-buckingham-mumbai-city/

In various interviews he comes across very well. He seems very calm and even tempered.

I'm warming to the idea of appointing him. He's young, but has 20 years in coaching at various levels. If we do appoint him it won't be for the wrong reasons.

[iot]

I'm nervous. Key question for me is whether he would 'get it', and whether the players would 'get him'. Obviously that's something all of our recent managers have had in abundance - while some have fallen short tactically slightly, at least they've created an atmosphere where they could get good buy-in and a good return from the players. Will some obscure Englishman have the same effect? I guess it will all come down to his personality and man-management, which admittedly I know nothing about!

[iot]

What I will say is that he showed some good tactical acumen at Oxford. If you think back to the playoff final, he completely nullified Sheehan's influence on the game by having a very deliberate tactic of blocking the passing lanes into him. He obviously massively overachieved at Oxford (I don't think anyone expected them to go up), so he's certainly worth consideration

[rushy]

With the appointment not being anytime soon it seems , it makes you wonder where this is going and worryingly where it will end. 😟

[rangers15]

whilst I only know what I have just read in the links about him, I would much rather a manager 'on the up' than shoehorning in a Welshman for the sake of it, or an old has-been looking to get back into management and using us to get his name back out there.
of course its a gamble, but with the kind of money we can offer, every appointment would be a gamble (just as Bellamy would be).
I think we all agreed we needed an upgrade on managerial tactical ability (hwyl can only get us so far) and this looks like it is (hopefully)

[winsumluzsum]

You would have thought that Oxford would want this to happen sooner rather than later if it happens at all. They will want to appoint a new manager as early as possible. If this has legs I expect a decision sooner rather than later.

To me this has a Graham Potter to Swansea vibe to it. You up and coming English manager with loads of obscure foreign experience. In many ways someone with Buckingham's profile is probably as good as it gets because once a manager is proven at Championship level they will be unaffordable. Best to catch them on the way up.

Seems he's a possession-led manager, with over 60% possession whilst at Mumbai. Not surprising as the club is part of the City group.

[winsumluzsum]

Jul 8, 2024 16:05:46 GMT rangers15 said:

whilst I only know what I have just read in the links about him, I would much rather a manager 'on the up' than shoehorning in a Welshman for the sake of it, or an old has-been looking to get back into management and using us to get his name back out there.
of course its a gamble, but with the kind of money we can offer, every appointment would be a gamble (just as Bellamy would be).
I think we all agreed we needed an upgrade on managerial tactical ability (hwyl can only get us so far) and this looks like it is (hopefully)

I very much agree with your assessment.

[erasedcitizen]

Jul 8, 2024 16:05:46 GMT rangers15 said:

whilst I only know what I have just read in the links about him, I would much rather a manager 'on the up' than shoehorning in a Welshman for the sake of it, or an old has-been looking to get back into management and using us to get his name back out there.
of course its a gamble, but with the kind of money we can offer, every appointment would be a gamble (just as Bellamy would be).
I think we all agreed we needed an upgrade on managerial tactical ability (hwyl can only get us so far) and this looks like it is (hopefully)

Bang on. To me, it'd be a positive appointment that's akin to what Swansea typically do. It works well for them...

[winsumluzsum]

His track record is one of consistent success:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_Buckingham

Last season he varied the formation a lot. Played a 4-3-3 in the playoff final where he outsmarted the highly regarded Ian Evatt. Previously went either a 4-1-4-1, 4-4-2 and 4-2-3-1. No wingbacks used.

[winsumluzsum]

I tell a lie. He used 3-4-2-1 in some of his early games in charge which were largely lost.

[winsumluzsum]

Buckingham has a very similar profile to Liam Manning the manager he replaced when Manning (same age) was poached by Bristol City. Oxford were 2nd when Manning left in November 2024, but Buckingham sustained the challenge.

[winsumluzsum]

One reason this may not happen is that Buckingham has 3 years left on his Oxford contract. If the FAW are expected to compensate Oxford then I can't see us doing that.

[surge]

I think it's a little unfair to suggest our tactics have been limited to hwyl, but this does seem to be a similar (potential) appointment to Page with less obvious connection to Wales and perhaps slightly greater tactical awareness. Winning promotion is a good moment on the CV and he has worked with youth and some more experienced players at Oxford.

Page improved as time went on and had pull to bring in Premier league/top of championship coaches to work with him. The backrooms staff maters of course.

Interesting to see the Gus Poyet name dropped (and seemingly not in great contention) in latest BBC article. There seems to be a few managers who got relatively high profile jobs, struggled and fell away from the radar who performed quite well in latest Euros.

[winsumluzsum]

Not a shouter:

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67682381

[surge]

I wonder how many different managers we will become experts on before the name is announced?

[njdragon]

Jul 8, 2024 18:00:29 GMT winsumluzsum said:

One reason this may not happen is that Buckingham has 3 years left on his Oxford contract. If the FAW are expected to compensate Oxford then I can't see us doing that.

I read that Oxford bought him out of his last contract at 1 million

[winsumluzsum]

If that's the case there's no way they will let him go for nothing, unless there's a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for a national managing position. Seems unlikely.

[spiritof16]

Could be a stroke of genius.

I read an Oxford fan saying he had links to FAW. Is that true at all?

[bluebird68]

Bellamy to become Wales boss. The passionate Welshman has long harboured an ambition to manage Wales - and it appears that wish is about to come true

nation.cymru/sport/craig-bellamy-set-to-be-unveiled-as-new-wales-boss-report/

[manulike]

Jul 8, 2024 21:03:05 GMT bluebird68 said:

Bellamy to become Wales boss. The passionate Welshman has long harboured an ambition to manage Wales - and it appears that wish is about to come true

nation.cymru/sport/craig-bellamy-set-to-be-unveiled-as-new-wales-boss-report/

#Team.Craig ;-)

PS - "Georgia boss Willy Sagnol ... was spoken to" - by golly ... I'd have a khachapuri every day until September if we get him ;-)

[aberbeeg]

Jul 8, 2024 7:41:56 GMT njdragon said:

Jul 8, 2024 7:29:16 GMT aberbeeg said:

Please Mr Page let it go. 

Predictable troll

Predictable response 

please please please try and move on now though. 

Bellamys red army is hopefully on its way #trustincraig 

[njdragon]

Jul 9, 2024 7:49:12 GMT aberbeeg said:

Jul 8, 2024 7:41:56 GMT njdragon said:

Predictable troll

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please please please try and move on now though. 

Bellamys red army is hopefully on its way #trustincraig 

i love the way you bite so easily over a differing opinion.

[rushlegend]

Graham Potter is bookies favourite to replace Southgate should he leave (according to some newspapers) - was he ever interested in the Wales' job before Bellamy got it?

[talyfan]

Way out of our budget I'd imagine. I recall they had a shortlist of 10 for the job. Would be interesting to know who they were

[rushlegend]

Yeah you are right Talyfan ((FOI from FAW 😉)

[underwood]

Jun 25, 2024 13:54:06 GMT andybell84 said:

Mate just driving back from a works meeting in Birmingham and who is at Monmouth services southbound on the A40 but Sam Allardyce. Not saying there’s necessarily a connection but could conceivably be heading to FAW towers.

Sam Allardyce seen on a train by a mate of a mate’s mate on his way to Derby, could be on his way to St George’s Park to meet with the FA?

Joint second favourite with the Bookies to be the next England manager - you couldn’t make it up Steve, could you?

[winsumluzsum]

There's zero chance of him being the next England manager.