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Post by manulike on Sept 24, 2024 14:14:57 GMT
Just my thoughts RE: allocation.
As Kayseri stadium is almost identical to CCS, and as we only gave them the bare minimum last month (1800 IIRC) I imagine that they will give us the same - seeing its on a Saturday etc.
Looking at the numbers that the FAW gave for Iceland away - I'd say you are almost guaranteed a ticket with 5/13 of last aways.
Probably, being much less of a "sexy" option than Montenegro and Iceland, I would not be surprised if this goes to general sale, or at least to 1/13 aways.
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Post by oldman on Sept 24, 2024 16:12:55 GMT
Just my thoughts RE: allocation. As Kayseri stadium is almost identical to CCS, and as we only gave them the bare minimum last month (1800 IIRC) I imagine that they will give us the same - seeing its on a Saturday etc. Looking at the numbers that the FAW gave for Iceland away - I'd say you are almost guaranteed a ticket with 5/13 of last aways. Probably, being much less of a "sexy" option than Montenegro and Iceland, I would not be surprised if this goes to general sale, or at least to 1/13 aways. Kadir Has Stadium has a capacity of 32,864 and we are guaranteed 5% minimum so that 1,600 plus the Cat 1 tickets. I know quite a few regulars who are not going to this game due to the location so I think it may go down to 1/13 or even 0/13. Mind you I didn't think Armenia would sell out, but they have a much smaller stadium and Wonkey Sheep charted 2 planes from Cardiff making it easier to get to. Iceland looks like it will go down to 2/13 so I expect Turkey to definitely go to 1/13. |
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Post by manulike on Sept 25, 2024 11:59:51 GMT
FLIGHTS STILL AVAILABLE
WIZZ AIR FROM GATWICK TO IST INT
Dept Thursday or Friday early morning or 2pm still only £32
Come back Sunday for £63 or back Monday for £32
EASY JET FROM BRISTOL to IST
Out on Friday lunchtime for £55
Back Monday evening for £78
Its about £150 return MAN-IST with EJ
The internal flights are about £25-£35 each way. GET £10 OFF per flight if you book the flight via TRIP.COM APP - up to 3 x £10
PLEASE NOTE - allow an absolute minimum of FIVE HOURS for connecting flights between SAW Sabna to IST international.
Personally, I really recommend the Turkish Airline internel flights - much more reliable
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Post by georgeberrysheadband on Oct 1, 2024 20:49:49 GMT
Potential for the escalating developments in the middle East to affect this one maybe?
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Post by MTJ1986 on Oct 2, 2024 8:43:03 GMT
Potential for the escalating developments in the middle East to affect this one maybe? People say this every time. Unlikely. Games still go on in Poland and all the other countries that border Ukraine and Russia |
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Post by georgeberrysheadband on Oct 2, 2024 19:46:33 GMT
Fair comment and hopefully you're correct
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Post by manulike on Oct 6, 2024 13:55:19 GMT
... For those spending some time in IstanbulIt took me almost two hours to figure out that the (superb) Turkish public ferry website ONLY WORKS WITH A TURKISH VPN! May well open if using Opera browser which has an embedded VPN. sehirhatlari.istanbul/en/timetables/domestic-tripsPDF (Timetable thro to June 2025). sehirhatlari.istanbul/uploads/dokuman/46-2/tarife.pdf Loads of ferry trip options KADIKOY - EMİNÖNÜ - BEŞİKTAŞ - ORTAKÖY etc for 20-40 minute trips (most cost under 30 lira / 50p).
If starting from EMİNÖNÜ or BEŞİKTAŞ - you can go all the way up the Bosphoros coast to SARIYER and up to Rumeli Kavağı (about 90 mins / 30 lira).
You will need to buy an ISTANBULKART (IK) for all types of transport ( up to 5 peaople can use one card) - empty card cost 130 tl / £3. Monthly Top-up Limit is 2750 tl (individual journies are only 25-35 tl, so you should never reach this limit, even with 5 ppl!). NOTE THAT - HVIST 13 SHUTTLE BUS betwen IST and SAW airports does NOT accept the Istanbulkart (IK)! It does, however accept 258 tl. cash and cedit card ( about €7 / up to 2h journey - depending on traffic). You can use IK on all the IETT buses, including the useful H-2 BUS (only 40tl) going all the way from IST to Mecidiyeköy metro - then take the METRO-BUS , MONO-RAIL. ALL the "buses" on this mono-rail service heading to Direction “ Söğütlüçeşme" will take you to the M4 METRO in the Kadikoy area. The easiest swap is at Uzunçayır Metrobüs stop for Ünalan metro station line M4 to SAW airport (about 50’ from here). If you prefer to use the underground from IST, take the M11 all the way to Gayrettepe (28 mins) and then use the METROBUS at Zincirlikuyu (and follow the above). Note that Gayrettepe metro is HUGE, and difficult to navigate!
If you are left with too much credit, some smaller tabacco / kiosks, most public loos, and ALL Migros supermarkets accept the card for payment as well!
ISTANBUL METRO
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Post by fireboy0610 on Oct 21, 2024 9:23:41 GMT
Doesn't seem to be much interest in this trip, looking like me and the eldest will definitely get a ticket.
This will put me in stage 2, which will be great the wc qualifiers next year 😁👍🏴
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 21, 2024 9:58:03 GMT
I don't think we sold out our allocation for the last trip to Turkey and that was in June. It went to general sale anyway so you should have no issues getting tickets
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Post by felinessex on Oct 23, 2024 13:55:56 GMT
That’s not great.
Regarding the Cat 1 tickets, I wonder how many tickets constitute a “small number” ? 5, 50, 150 ?
UEFA Nations League Match
Türkiye v Cymru
Kadir Has Stadium, Kayseri
Saturday 16th November 2024
Kick off 8pm (local time)
An allocation of approx. 1,000 tickets is available to Cymru fans for this match. The main Cymru section is located in blocks A & B in the upper tier of the South-West corner. A small number of Category 1 tickets also available in the West Stand.
The capacity of the main Cymru section (away end) has been reduced due to concerns around safety in this area.
Also just noticed that the stage 1 window lasts near enough 24 hours, whilst everyone else only get an hour at each stage.
Stage 1: 10am Wednesday 30th October until 9:30am Thursday 31st October: Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 7 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 875 supporters qualify in this stage. Supporters eligible in stage 1 are guaranteed a ticket if they purchase before the stage closes.
Stage 2: 10am-11:00am Thursday 31st October: Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 6 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 210 additional supporters become eligible in this stage.
Stage 3: 11:30am-12:30pm Thursday 31st October (subject to availability): Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 5 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 215 additional supporters become eligible in this stage.
Stage 4: 1pm-2pm Thursday 31st October (subject to availability): Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 4 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 300 additional supporters become eligible in this stage.
Stage 5: 2:30pm-3:30pm Thursday 31st October (subject to availability): Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 3 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 450 additional supporters become eligible in this stage.
Stage 6: 10am-11am Friday 1st November (subject to availability): Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 2 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 670 additional supporters become eligible in this stage.
Stage 7: 11:30am-12:30pm Friday 1st November (subject to availability): Open to supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership (Purchased before 9am on Monday 28th October) AND any 1 of the previous 13 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history. Approx. 1,300 additional supporters become eligible in this stage.
Stage 8: 1pm Friday 1st November – 10am Monday 4th November (subject to availability): Open to all supporters with 2024-26 Red Wall Adult or Junior Membership
Ticket Prices
Main Wales End: £6
Category 1: £13
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Post by manulike on Oct 23, 2024 19:43:05 GMT
Surprisingly low alloation? Surely, that is not 5%?
The Cat 1 ticket numbers have always been 150-200 depending on how many were taken up by the WAGS.
In Samsun, there was very little difference in the quality of the view.
Still, I expect this to go to general sale.
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Post by WalesAway2024 on Oct 23, 2024 21:32:44 GMT
It should be fine for this one just about I’d imagine but why are the FAW constantly reducing our allocation on their own safety concerns?
The stadium was built in 2009 and they’ve reduced our allocation by 600 ffs, it isn’t some death trap stadium it’s a modern (albeit steep) away end but it’s taking the piss for fans who are in the lower stages and have tried to book on
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Post by fireboy0610 on Oct 23, 2024 22:14:26 GMT
It should be fine for this one just about I’d imagine but why are the FAW constantly reducing our allocation on their own safety concerns? The stadium was built in 2009 and they’ve reduced our allocation by 600 ffs, it isn’t some death trap stadium it’s a modern (albeit steep) away end but it’s taking the piss for fans who are in the lower stages and have tried to book on Agreed, I thought it would be 1600, therefore I'd definitely get one, now I'm not 100%, my eldest will be coming and he's only got 1 away even though he did armenia as his first in the home end, touch wood he will get one 🤞 |
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Post by felinessex on Oct 23, 2024 23:34:30 GMT
It should be fine for this one just about I’d imagine but why are the FAW constantly reducing our allocation on their own safety concerns? The stadium was built in 2009 and they’ve reduced our allocation by 600 ffs, it isn’t some death trap stadium it’s a modern (albeit steep) away end but it’s taking the piss for fans who are in the lower stages and have tried to book on Agreed, I thought it would be 1600, therefore I'd definitely get one, now I'm not 100%, my eldest will be coming and he's only got 1 away even though he did armenia as his first in the home end, touch wood he will get one 🤞 Swerved Iceland, thinking that it would be mission impossible getting a ticket. Booked travel to Turkey, thinking it would be easy. My cunning plan obviously hadn’t allowed for FAW intervention. Hopefully, the cost, distance and limited attractions of Kayseri, mean that demand isn’t great and leaves availability at the lower qualification levels. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Oct 24, 2024 0:30:07 GMT
Agreed, I thought it would be 1600, therefore I'd definitely get one, now I'm not 100%, my eldest will be coming and he's only got 1 away even though he did armenia as his first in the home end, touch wood he will get one 🤞 Swerved Iceland, thinking that it would be mission impossible getting a ticket. Booked travel to Turkey, thinking it would be easy. My cunning plan obviously hadn’t allowed for FAW intervention. Hopefully, the cost, distance and limited attractions of Kayseri, mean that demand isn’t great and leaves availability at the lower qualification levels. I'm certain it will mate, I never expected to get a ticket for Iceland but I did, so I'm almost certain I will get one for this game for the reasons you have mentioned, even if the eldest doesn't get one (which I think he will) he can have mine. |
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Post by felinessex on Oct 24, 2024 0:58:10 GMT
Swerved Iceland, thinking that it would be mission impossible getting a ticket. Booked travel to Turkey, thinking it would be easy. My cunning plan obviously hadn’t allowed for FAW intervention. Hopefully, the cost, distance and limited attractions of Kayseri, mean that demand isn’t great and leaves availability at the lower qualification levels. I'm certain it will mate, I never expected to get a ticket for Iceland but I did, so I'm almost certain I will get one for this game for the reasons you have mentioned, even if the eldest doesn't get one (which I think he will) he can have mine. Hopefully, tickets will go down the levels and it will be stress free. We’ll know the score pretty quickly anyway, as the sales go through the stages on the same day. I’m out in Antalya for a week before the game so will be having fun whatever happens. From what I can see, getting home tickets won’t be impossible, but not straight forward. They operate an App, similar to us. Tickets can only be bought, sold and transferred on the App. You’re supposed to have a membership card but the App works immediately, once you’ve paid your membership fee. My week in Antalya will allow recruitment of local scallies to help me with that if I’m still struggling. At face value, it still seems like sub-optimal management and communication at this late stage by the FAW. The venue’s been known for months. It’s a modern ground, obviously licensed and considered safe by UEFA. I assume adjacent sections occupied by home supporters are not restricted. Whilst fan safety is paramount, how can this make sense ? It’s safe for them but not for us ? |
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Post by WalesAway2024 on Oct 24, 2024 13:29:38 GMT
I'm certain it will mate, I never expected to get a ticket for Iceland but I did, so I'm almost certain I will get one for this game for the reasons you have mentioned, even if the eldest doesn't get one (which I think he will) he can have mine. Hopefully, tickets will go down the levels and it will be stress free. We’ll know the score pretty quickly anyway, as the sales go through the stages on the same day. I’m out in Antalya for a week before the game so will be having fun whatever happens. From what I can see, getting home tickets won’t be impossible, but not straight forward. They operate an App, similar to us. Tickets can only be bought, sold and transferred on the App. You’re supposed to have a membership card but the App works immediately, once you’ve paid your membership fee. My week in Antalya will allow recruitment of local scallies to help me with that if I’m still struggling. At face value, it still seems like sub-optimal management and communication at this late stage by the FAW. The venue’s been known for months. It’s a modern ground, obviously licensed and considered safe by UEFA. I assume adjacent sections occupied by home supporters are not restricted. Whilst fan safety is paramount, how can this make sense ? It’s safe for them but not for us ? It's an absolute joke and happens so often that I'm starting to wonder is there something else at play? Do they only want a certain number travelling or something like that? I am fine as am stage 1 but friends and family may miss out on the back of this, and it wouldn't be the first time. This will just force fans into the home end and I can't see how that is safer than a bit of a steep climb? The stadium was opened in 2009 ffs, I can't get my head around the FAW just deciding by themselves that they're going to cut our allocation, they are not in the real world because their trips and the embassy trips are all paid for, no holidays taken and just a jolly on the house, whereas fans take holidays off work, spend thousands per year and make sacrifices on other stuff to be told by someone from the Fan Embassy that's had a little jolly in advance that we should take 600 less tickets. I'm hoping it will be fine for this one but this can't carry on, it's getting beyond a joke and I don't know what qualifications the person making these decisions has? The power is going to people heads behind the scenes I am convinced of it, I touched upon it in the Iceland thread but the bouncers stopping you going into public hotels at ticket collections for a start. Do you think England would reduce their allocation on their own accord? Not a chance |
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Post by steveh on Oct 24, 2024 16:35:38 GMT
What's the feeling on general uptake for this? I'm the only one of our group of 6, all stages 1 or 2, even considering going, I'm on 11 of the last 13 aways and this is a trip I should be looking forward to but can't seem to gain any kind of enthusiasm for it?
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Post by felinessex on Oct 24, 2024 17:16:19 GMT
Hopefully, tickets will go down the levels and it will be stress free. We’ll know the score pretty quickly anyway, as the sales go through the stages on the same day. I’m out in Antalya for a week before the game so will be having fun whatever happens. From what I can see, getting home tickets won’t be impossible, but not straight forward. They operate an App, similar to us. Tickets can only be bought, sold and transferred on the App. You’re supposed to have a membership card but the App works immediately, once you’ve paid your membership fee. My week in Antalya will allow recruitment of local scallies to help me with that if I’m still struggling. At face value, it still seems like sub-optimal management and communication at this late stage by the FAW. The venue’s been known for months. It’s a modern ground, obviously licensed and considered safe by UEFA. I assume adjacent sections occupied by home supporters are not restricted. Whilst fan safety is paramount, how can this make sense ? It’s safe for them but not for us ? It's an absolute joke and happens so often that I'm starting to wonder is there something else at play? Do they only want a certain number travelling or something like that? I am fine as am stage 1 but friends and family may miss out on the back of this, and it wouldn't be the first time. This will just force fans into the home end and I can't see how that is safer than a bit of a steep climb? The stadium was opened in 2009 ffs, I can't get my head around the FAW just deciding by themselves that they're going to cut our allocation, they are not in the real world because their trips and the embassy trips are all paid for, no holidays taken and just a jolly on the house, whereas fans take holidays off work, spend thousands per year and make sacrifices on other stuff to be told by someone from the Fan Embassy that's had a little jolly in advance that we should take 600 less tickets. I'm hoping it will be fine for this one but this can't carry on, it's getting beyond a joke and I don't know what qualifications the person making these decisions has? The power is going to people heads behind the scenes I am convinced of it, I touched upon it in the Iceland thread but the bouncers stopping you going into public hotels at ticket collections for a start. Do you think England would reduce their allocation on their own accord? Not a chance I agree that it’s certainly a strange move, without further explanation. This was the response on Twitter. We sent a security officer (UEFA qualified) to Kayseri, they travelled with FSA Cymru. The security officer deemed the area unsafe for the full allocation. We do site visits for this reason. Then the vagueness about how many Cat 1 tickets will be available. A small number of Category 1 tickets also available in the West Stand. Eh, what ? Yeah Wales, how about we give you a small number of Cat 1’s ? A small number you say, sounds just the job, thank you very much. I also question why the Stage 1 window is 24 hours, then all subsequent stages only an hour. I may be missing something but hardly seems fair. |
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Post by manulike on Oct 24, 2024 17:39:37 GMT
What's the feeling on general uptake for this? I'm the only one of our group of 6, all stages 1 or 2, even considering going, I'm on 11 of the last 13 aways and this is a trip I should be looking forward to but can't seem to gain any kind of enthusiasm for it? Can't blame you. Very similar 10/13 and I will be going, but would much rather have a dental root canal drilling ;-(
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Post by londonexile on Oct 24, 2024 21:32:02 GMT
I'm stage 1...not going. Iceland cleared me out.
Whilst I don't agree with reducing the allocation, I think everyone who wants a ticket will get one. Great chance to get up the ladder as I believe uptake in each stage will be lower.
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Post by steveh on Oct 24, 2024 22:04:28 GMT
I agree, I can see it going to general sale, I get paranoid about dropping out of stage 1 if we get a really random nation with a small allocation for the world cup qualifiers and sweating on a ticket!
I'll make a decision over the weekend, looking at an afternoon flight from Manchester on the Friday and back by Sunday lunchtime, quick turnaround for a change after a great 5 days in Iceland.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Oct 24, 2024 23:33:18 GMT
I agree, I can see it going to general sale, I get paranoid about dropping out of stage 1 if we get a really random nation with a small allocation for the world cup qualifiers and sweating on a ticket! I'll make a decision over the weekend, looking at an afternoon flight from Manchester on the Friday and back by Sunday lunchtime, quick turnaround for a change after a great 5 days in Iceland. We are going manchester Friday morning and coming back Sunday morning to stansted, cost just over £200. |
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Post by George on Oct 27, 2024 16:25:50 GMT
People who were not again , now seem to be going. We will sell the 1000 easily. Could have done with 15 - 1700.
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Post by George on Oct 27, 2024 16:28:48 GMT
A group of mates booked yesterday from Stansted, Thursday until Sunday.
£202 notes. Still cheap.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Oct 27, 2024 19:23:04 GMT
People who were not again , now seem to be going. We will sell the 1000 easily. Could have done with 15 - 1700. How do you know this George? Do you know hundreds of Wales fans then? |
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Post by George on Oct 27, 2024 20:03:55 GMT
I live in North Wales. Loads going from there.
Pre match party at the Wyndham. £6 a pint.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Oct 27, 2024 20:40:12 GMT
We are staying there as well, less than half of our group, around 30 are going, most are die hards, that tells me that it will be less than Iceland for several reasons, so 1000 tickets are ok imo.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Oct 27, 2024 20:59:19 GMT
We are staying there as well, less than half of our group, around 30 are going, most are die hards, that tells me that it will be less than Iceland for several reasons, so 1000 tickets are ok imo. Me and my son are in the Wyndham too. Hope there's enough tickets for everyone that needs one. A bit of an arse ache going all that way and not getting in. |
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Post by felinessex on Oct 29, 2024 2:33:41 GMT
We are staying there as well, less than half of our group, around 30 are going, most are die hards, that tells me that it will be less than Iceland for several reasons, so 1000 tickets are ok imo. Me and my son are in the Wyndham too. Hope there's enough tickets for everyone that needs one. A bit of an arse ache going all that way and not getting in. Wyndham booked here too. It’s going to be a sad venue, if we don’t all get tickets. If Mr Health and Safety from the FAW is also staying there, I hope he can explain how, if the adjacent Turkish section is full, ours is restricted ? They’ve got better balance, parachutes or superior lungs ? I’d love to see the risk assessment. “Safety Concerns” as a statement is totally meaningless. Tell us what these concerns are, that don’t apparently impact Turkish fans. I’ve done many risk assessments for major public events. The “expertise” lies in ensuring it happens safely, not in shutting it down, or restricting access. Does it need more stewards, a gap in the rows, close them off ? Cutting our potential ticket allocation so severely is a total cop-out, which makes the “Together Stronger” line a complete nonsense. |
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