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Post by gimli on Sept 6, 2024 12:03:16 GMT
My final prediction for the lineup is... Ward Neco-Cabango-Rodon-Davies Ampadu-Ramsey Brennan-Wilson-Koumas Harris Got a feeling Bellamy will start with two 10s - Ramsey & Wilson, pushing them further forward in possession with Davies tucking across forming a back 3, enabling Neco to push into midfield/further forward. In possession it will look something like... Cabango-Rodon-Davies Neco-Ampadu Wilson-Ramsey-Koumas Brennan-Harris Surely Connor Roberts will start? He's the only player with prior knowledge and experience of Bellamy's style of play. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 6, 2024 12:21:16 GMT
Ward
Roberts-Rodon-Davies-Neco
Ampadu-JJ
Brennan-Ramsey-Wilson
Harris
I'd be surprised if the starting lineup differed much from this. He may go for Moore, but I think that's unlikely.
His squad selection was fairly conservative so I expect his team selection to follow suit.
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 12:56:13 GMT
Ward Roberts-Rodon-Davies-Neco Ampadu-JJ Brennan-Ramsey-Wilson Harris I'd be surprised if the starting lineup differed much from this. He may go for Moore, but I think that's unlikely. His squad selection was fairly conservative so I expect his team selection to follow suit. I think that's what he'll go with too, but we obviously don't have much to base it on so could have read the completely wrong signals ! |
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 12:57:56 GMT
Any mentions of playing out from the back? Not sure it's in Ward repertoire, not sure on the other keepers either. Funny feeling it could be Davies starting Playing out from the back will definitely be an important feature of how we play because it's fundamental to Bellamy's whole approach. But you're right to say that none of our keepers are comfortable at it, so could get quite hairy! |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 6, 2024 13:14:27 GMT
I disagree. I think this is one of Ward's strengths (perhaps his only one!). I can't remember which recent game it was but I was really struck by the accuracy of his long range passing. Perhaps he isn't consistently good but he certainly has the capability.
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 6, 2024 13:17:08 GMT
Guess it depends on your definition of world class. Either way, both Guller and Calhanoglu are extremely talented attacking midfielders who could cause all sorts of issues for our shaky defence learning a new system. Perhaps I was a bit OTT in declaring them world class, but their best players are better at this stage than ours. |
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Post by manulike on Sept 6, 2024 13:38:04 GMT
The official squad as per dragonsoccer - unlss I am missing something, we are only naming 22 players? Is there no number 2? 1 Karl Darlow | Leeds Utd 3 Neco Williams | Nottingham Forest 4 Ben Davies | Tottenham Hotspur 5 Ethan Ampadu | Leeds Utd 6 Joe Rodon | Leeds Utd 7 Mark Harris | Oxford Utd 8 Harry Wilson | Fulham 9 Lewis Koumas | Liverpool - loan Stoke City 10 Aaron Ramsey | Cardiff City 11 Brennan Johnson | Tottenham Hotspur 12 Danny Ward | Leicester City 13 Kieffer Moore | Sheffield Utd 14 Connor Roberts | Burnley 15 Ollie Cooper | Swansea City 16 Ben Cabango | Swansea City 17 Jordan James | Stade Rennais 18 Owen Beck | Liverpool - loan Blackburn 19 Sorba Thomas | Huddersfield - loan Nantes 20 Rubin Colwill | Cardiff City 21 Adam Davies | Sheffield Utd 22 Josh Sheehan | Bolton Wanderers 23 Charlie Crew | Leeds Utd Missing out : Liam Cullen | Swansea City Chris Mepham | Bournemouth - suspended Looks like I may be right in my prediction of starting Darlow! Another prediction, I think he will go with Harris up top. The only player who’s actually scoring goals in the squad Finally, I think it will be a tough night. Wales 1 Turkey 3 Am I right in assuming that the FAW have decided to retire Shirt Number 2 - in honour of the legend that was Chris Gunter? |
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 13:38:52 GMT
I disagree. I think this is one of Ward's strengths (perhaps his only one!). I can't remember which recent game it was but I was really struck by the accuracy of his long range passing. Perhaps he isn't consistently good but he certainly has the capability. He's decent at pinging crossfield balls usually to our full backs / wing backs hogging the touchline, but lacks the confidence to play the short central options through the opposition press. He goes to one of the centre back 90% of the time and then will occasionally lob over a crossfield pass, but will never play it in to a centre mid dropping deep even when they have plenty of space |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 6, 2024 13:39:32 GMT
Looks like I may be right in my prediction of starting Darlow! Another prediction, I think he will go with Harris up top. The only player who’s actually scoring goals in the squad Finally, I think it will be a tough night. Wales 1 Turkey 3 Am I right in assuming that the FAW have decided to retire Shirt Number 2 - in honour of the legend that was Chris Gunter? 😅 no it’s not possible unless we never have a 23 man matchday squad ever again |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2024 14:29:00 GMT
My final prediction for the lineup is... Ward Neco-Cabango-Rodon-Davies Ampadu-Ramsey Brennan-Wilson-Koumas Harris Got a feeling Bellamy will start with two 10s - Ramsey & Wilson, pushing them further forward in possession with Davies tucking across forming a back 3, enabling Neco to push into midfield/further forward. In possession it will look something like... Cabango-Rodon-Davies Neco-Ampadu Wilson-Ramsey-Koumas Brennan-Harris Wonder if he might play Ampadu at centre back if he wants to play out from the back Yeah I wouldn't rule that out at all |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2024 14:31:09 GMT
My final prediction for the lineup is... Ward Neco-Cabango-Rodon-Davies Ampadu-Ramsey Brennan-Wilson-Koumas Harris Got a feeling Bellamy will start with two 10s - Ramsey & Wilson, pushing them further forward in possession with Davies tucking across forming a back 3, enabling Neco to push into midfield/further forward. In possession it will look something like... Cabango-Rodon-Davies Neco-Ampadu Wilson-Ramsey-Koumas Brennan-Harris Surely Connor Roberts will start? He's the only player with prior knowledge and experience of Bellamy's style of play. Maybe, but Neco is a cracking player and when you look at where they are at at club level it's clear Neco is a level above Connor. Bellamy might favour knowledge of his system, but Neco is good enough to get straight into it as well. A 50-50 call imo |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 6, 2024 14:35:46 GMT
Might be Davies at centre back with Neco left and Roberts right a la Page
I hope not though, Neco's a step up and should be in his preferred position
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Post by gimli on Sept 6, 2024 14:58:44 GMT
Surely Connor Roberts will start? He's the only player with prior knowledge and experience of Bellamy's style of play. Maybe, but Neco is a cracking player and when you look at where they are at at club level it's clear Neco is a level above Connor. Bellamy might favour knowledge of his system, but Neco is good enough to get straight into it as well. A 50-50 call imo I expect it'll be Connor RB, Neco LB, and Davies as the LCB. Not necessarily what I want to see (I'd prefer Neco on the right and Beck at LB), but I just can't see Bellamy excluding the one player that fully understands and has experience of his system. Can't see Cabango starting either way though. Pretty confident Davies will partner Rodon in the middle. |
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Post by kracken88 on Sept 6, 2024 15:53:23 GMT
Wasn't Burnley Vincent company's system? Reading all you guys I'm expecting Bellamy to reinvent the wheel at this point. Let's hope it's at least a workable performance first and formost.the vital thing for me is when games start to go wrong he actually reacts like someone that understands what is going on on the field, something page didn't seem able to do
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Post by melynwy on Sept 6, 2024 17:03:13 GMT
Maybe, but Neco is a cracking player and when you look at where they are at at club level it's clear Neco is a level above Connor. Bellamy might favour knowledge of his system, but Neco is good enough to get straight into it as well. A 50-50 call imo I expect it'll be Connor RB, Neco LB, and Davies as the LCB. Not necessarily what I want to see (I'd prefer Neco on the right and Beck at LB), but I just can't see Bellamy excluding the one player that fully understands and has experience of his system. Can't see Cabango starting either way though. Pretty confident Davies will partner Rodon in the middle. I’m not sure we’ll have an LCB as I wouldn’t be surprised to see us playing with a back 4 under Bellamy. Davies and Rodon as CBs perhaps. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 6, 2024 17:45:56 GMT
As I expected apart from Thomas coming in on the wing and Johnson up front. Plenty of attacking intent in that line. Thomas isn't renowned for his defensive work so it will be interesting to see how much tracking back he does.
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 17:46:06 GMT
Didn’t see Sorba starting, otherwise as expected
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Post by melynwy on Sept 6, 2024 17:55:50 GMT
Interesting - is it a back 4 with Neco and Roberts as full backs and Sorba in midfield, or a back three with Roberts as RCB, and Neco and Sorba as wingbacks?
Or is it both?!
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 18:11:07 GMT
here we go  |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 6, 2024 18:12:01 GMT
I know they're young, but does anyone look at our bench and think we're thread bare at the moment? Only one you could turn to is Moore.
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 18:13:49 GMT
didnt see Sorba starting
does that mean 4-2-3-1- Sorba left
what do we think?
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 18:15:48 GMT
I know they're young, but does anyone look at our bench and think we're thread bare at the moment? Only one you could turn to is Moore. koumas will come on think Harris will too but due to players missing it doesnt look great Brennan getting to be the main man up top needs to turn up tonight[sure he will] Good luck boys |
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Post by kracken88 on Sept 6, 2024 18:16:19 GMT
I think having koumas and beck on the bench is more exciting than threadbare, though obviously be a big ask to put them on expecting them to change the game against quality opposition,but the fearlessness of youth and all that.
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Post by dai on Sept 6, 2024 18:16:36 GMT
Sorba is a big surprise. Maybe he’s impressed in training??
Yeah the bench looks a bit lightweight, but at least there’s youth there.
I was hoping Bellamy would have been a bit braver like Giggs by giving opportunities to younger players.
Ward is a major worry. At least Turkey know that any shots outside the penalty box are likely to go in.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 6, 2024 18:16:36 GMT
Interesting - is it a back 4 with Neco and Roberts as full backs and Sorba in midfield, or a back three with Roberts as RCB, and Neco and Sorba as wingbacks? Or is it both?! I can't see Roberts at RCB at all. Could possibly be Ampadu further back with Neco and Roberts as wing backs and Ramsey dropping alongside JJ. Unlikely though. Or, given Bellamy's comments about formations, could we have a dynamic 4 / 3 at the back approach? Ampadu dropping back between the CBs some of the time and spraying diagonals to the wingers. This has been Swansea's approach with Grimes. Wouldn't surprise me. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 6, 2024 18:19:41 GMT
Sorba is a big surprise. Maybe he’s impressed in training?? Yeah the bench looks a bit lightweight, but at least there’s youth there. I was hoping Bellamy would have been a bit braver like Giggs by giving opportunities to younger players. Ward is a major worry. At least Turkey know that any shots outside the penalty box are likely to go in. I think you're being a bit harsh on Ward. He had an awful match against Slovakia, but has been good for us at times. It's a clean slate for all. Let's show a bit of faith! |
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 18:20:58 GMT
Interesting - is it a back 4 with Neco and Roberts as full backs and Sorba in midfield, or a back three with Roberts as RCB, and Neco and Sorba as wingbacks? Or is it both?! I can't see Roberts at RCB at all. Could possibly be Ampadu further back with Neco and Roberts as wing backs and Ramsey dropping alongside JJ. Unlikely though. Or, given Bellamy's comments about formations, could we have a dynamic 4 / 3 at the back approach? Ampadu dropping back between the CBs some of the time and spraying diagonals to the wingers. This has been Swansea's approach with Grimes. Wouldn't surprise me. He has said Ramsey is a 10 can see Ampadu doing that allowing the FBs to kick on |
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Post by melynwy on Sept 6, 2024 18:24:23 GMT
Sorba in place of Dan James it seems
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 18:32:09 GMT
Bellamy ''Sorba deserves his place''
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 6, 2024 18:38:10 GMT
I know they're young, but does anyone look at our bench and think we're thread bare at the moment? Only one you could turn to is Moore. koumas will come on think Harris will too but due to players missing it doesnt look great Brennan getting to be the main man up top needs to turn up tonight[sure he will] Good luck boys Koumas I have really high hopes for. Harris I don't know, never really grasped an opportunity before. |
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