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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2024 12:56:34 GMT
Yeah, I know a couple of tickets going in a couple of different groups I know going to the game and they can't get rid of them. There's almost always some of that going on, but does seem like a few more ticket owners not attending this time (probably because the nations league and world cup playoffs were tied together in the campaign tickets). Even still, we're hopefully looking at 25k minimum which would be more than respectable |
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Post by surge on Sept 5, 2024 15:37:29 GMT
What's going on? Are people finding it difficult in that its first week back at school for the kids or something?
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 5, 2024 15:50:56 GMT
While true 517 is the only block not to go on sale, the back 6 rows of 511-16 have not gone on sale either. |
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Post by superunknown on Sept 5, 2024 15:59:42 GMT
Yeah, I know a couple of tickets going in a couple of different groups I know going to the game and they can't get rid of them. There's almost always some of that going on, but does seem like a few more ticket owners not attending this time (probably because the nations league and world cup playoffs were tied together in the campaign tickets). Even still, we're hopefully looking at 25k minimum which would be more than respectable Think the Montenegro game will take a few as well. Would have loved to have gone but flight is tomorrow evening out so having to miss it. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 5, 2024 16:44:58 GMT
Don’t worry about the spare tickets knocking around , it’ll still look full on the day.
Don’t forget that even as few as 50 spare tickets being posted online makes it look like an avalanche of spares and no one wants to go.
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 1:42:26 GMT
well I messed up with the original guess at the starting Xl as I forgot Mepham is banned for this game  with a 4-2-3-1 I guess something like this but Davies is now CB and Roberts comes in at RB could see Brennan picked on right wilson on left and Harris/Kieffer at 9, Koumas coming off the bench  or could even see a 4-3-3, with cooper as 3rd CM giving us more legs in midfield width coming from FBs and Wison+Ramsey as 2x no.10s this would allow us to hopefully be strong centrally and have more control Ampadu could drop into CD as needed just looking forward to it now, come on Cymru   |
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Post by welrus on Sept 6, 2024 7:10:47 GMT
Watching Feast of Football last night both Ramsey and Ward were interviewed and asked how it was going with Bellamy. Inevitably said it was great.
But what struck me was both highlighted how much time they had spent in meetings and there was a lot to take in. Change of style on the way sure, but I’ve rarely heard professional footballers bring this out so clearly. It didn’t sound convincing that they’d got to grips with everything which is probably not surprising.
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Post by dragon64 on Sept 6, 2024 7:33:53 GMT
Watching Feast of Football last night both Ramsey and Ward were interviewed and asked how it was going with Bellamy. Inevitably said it was great. But what struck me was both highlighted how much time they had spent in meetings and there was a lot to take in. Change of style on the way sure, but I’ve rarely heard professional footballers bring this out so clearly. It didn’t sound convincing that they’d got to grips with everything which is probably not surprising. I listened to it as podcast, didnt know you could watch is it on youtube? watching Sgorio Wilson just said there was a lot of information |
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Post by welrus on Sept 6, 2024 7:43:38 GMT
Watching Feast of Football last night both Ramsey and Ward were interviewed and asked how it was going with Bellamy. Inevitably said it was great. But what struck me was both highlighted how much time they had spent in meetings and there was a lot to take in. Change of style on the way sure, but I’ve rarely heard professional footballers bring this out so clearly. It didn’t sound convincing that they’d got to grips with everything which is probably not surprising. I listened to it as podcast, didnt know you could watch is it on youtube? watching Sgorio Wilson just said there was a lot of information It’s on iPlayer and was aired last night. |
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Post by manulike on Sept 6, 2024 8:52:01 GMT
The official squad as per dragonsoccer - unlss I am missing something, we are only naming 22 players? Is there no number 2? 1 Karl Darlow | Leeds Utd 3 Neco Williams | Nottingham Forest 4 Ben Davies | Tottenham Hotspur 5 Ethan Ampadu | Leeds Utd 6 Joe Rodon | Leeds Utd 7 Mark Harris | Oxford Utd 8 Harry Wilson | Fulham 9 Lewis Koumas | Liverpool - loan Stoke City 10 Aaron Ramsey | Cardiff City 11 Brennan Johnson | Tottenham Hotspur 12 Danny Ward | Leicester City 13 Kieffer Moore | Sheffield Utd 14 Connor Roberts | Burnley 15 Ollie Cooper | Swansea City 16 Ben Cabango | Swansea City 17 Jordan James | Stade Rennais 18 Owen Beck | Liverpool - loan Blackburn 19 Sorba Thomas | Huddersfield - loan Nantes 20 Rubin Colwill | Cardiff City 21 Adam Davies | Sheffield Utd 22 Josh Sheehan | Bolton Wanderers 23 Charlie Crew | Leeds Utd Missing out : Liam Cullen | Swansea City Chris Mepham | Bournemouth - suspended |
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 8:58:33 GMT
Don’t mean to be all negative, but I think we may be in for a tough night. There’s been a constant theme in all the manager and player media engagements: they’re doing things very differently to before, there’s load of information being drilled into the players, and these things take time. It’s not just that we’re going to play in a very different way, but it’s a the whole approach and level of identity they’re trying to create. Bellamy’s completely different to any previous manager that we’ve had in that he’s wedded to a particular football philosophy and the whole way he sees the game. He comes out with statements like he’s ’not a fan of formations’ and ‘believes more in shapes’ where players are expected to constantly adapt and find solutions on the pitch. There’s loads of detailed work that goes into getting the exact body positioning right from defenders in particular so that we can invite the opposition press and play through it.
It’s not just about making tactical adjustments- moving to a back 4 and trying to get more of the ball, the main change I think is the level of detail. I think our previous three managers have been more traditional in their approach where they were much more pragmatic - sure they would have had a gameplan for each game and a tactical approach, but I think they will have been a bit more laissez faire in their approach. Bellamy, on the other hand, talks about needing to ‘build a library’ into minds of the players so that they know what they need to do in different situations. Ramsey and others have spoken about how different Bellamy’s been to other managers, and that it’s something they haven’t been used to.
So with the ambition of that new approach whilst having to cope with missing key players like James and using unfit players like Ben Davies in the heart of defence, and coming up against strong attacking opposition, I think things could go quite wrong tonight - but we’ll need to just maintain the faith
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Post by manulike on Sept 6, 2024 9:07:55 GMT
Neh. We got this!
Will certainly not end 0-0 ...
My prediction is Wales 4 Turkey 2
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 6, 2024 9:39:24 GMT
Neh. We got this! Will certainly not end 0-0 ... My prediction is Wales 4 Turkey 2 It’s 6 years to the day we beat ROI 4-1 at home, take that score line again lol |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Sept 6, 2024 9:40:41 GMT
Don’t mean to be all negative, but I think we may be in for a tough night. There’s been a constant theme in all the manager and player media engagements: they’re doing things very differently to before, there’s load of information being drilled into the players, and these things take time. It’s not just that we’re going to play in a very different way, but it’s a the whole approach and level of identity they’re trying to create. Bellamy’s completely different to any previous manager that we’ve had in that he’s wedded to a particular football philosophy and the whole way he sees the game. He comes out with statements like he’s ’not a fan of formations’ and ‘believes more in shapes’ where players are expected to constantly adapt and find solutions on the pitch. There’s loads of detailed work that goes into getting the exact body positioning right from defenders in particular so that we can invite the opposition press and play through it. It’s not just about making tactical adjustments- moving to a back 4 and trying to get more of the ball, the main change I think is the level of detail. I think our previous three managers have been more traditional in their approach where they were much more pragmatic - sure they would have had a gameplan for each game and a tactical approach, but I think they will have been a bit more laissez faire in their approach. Bellamy, on the other hand, talks about needing to ‘build a library’ into minds of the players so that they know what they need to do in different situations. Ramsey and others have spoken about how different Bellamy’s been to other managers, and that it’s something they haven’t been used to. So with the ambition of that new approach whilst having to cope with missing key players like James and using unfit players like Ben Davies in the heart of defence, and coming up against strong attacking opposition, I think things could go quite wrong tonight - but we’ll need to just maintain the faith Hard to disagree with any of this. That's the hard headed view of things. However it is possible that with a high press (which should be easier to implement) and a bit of hwyl we could cause a few problems to Turkiye. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 6, 2024 9:56:13 GMT
The official squad as per dragonsoccer - unlss I am missing something, we are only naming 22 players? Is there no number 2? Small squad and Cullen is injured. |
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 6, 2024 10:11:15 GMT
Neh. We got this! Will certainly not end 0-0 ... My prediction is Wales 4 Turkey 2 I wouldn’t go down the bookies with that |
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Post by dai on Sept 6, 2024 10:11:36 GMT
The official squad as per dragonsoccer - unlss I am missing something, we are only naming 22 players? Is there no number 2? 1 Karl Darlow | Leeds Utd 3 Neco Williams | Nottingham Forest 4 Ben Davies | Tottenham Hotspur 5 Ethan Ampadu | Leeds Utd 6 Joe Rodon | Leeds Utd 7 Mark Harris | Oxford Utd 8 Harry Wilson | Fulham 9 Lewis Koumas | Liverpool - loan Stoke City 10 Aaron Ramsey | Cardiff City 11 Brennan Johnson | Tottenham Hotspur 12 Danny Ward | Leicester City 13 Kieffer Moore | Sheffield Utd 14 Connor Roberts | Burnley 15 Ollie Cooper | Swansea City 16 Ben Cabango | Swansea City 17 Jordan James | Stade Rennais 18 Owen Beck | Liverpool - loan Blackburn 19 Sorba Thomas | Huddersfield - loan Nantes 20 Rubin Colwill | Cardiff City 21 Adam Davies | Sheffield Utd 22 Josh Sheehan | Bolton Wanderers 23 Charlie Crew | Leeds Utd Missing out : Liam Cullen | Swansea City Chris Mepham | Bournemouth - suspended Looks like I may be right in my prediction of starting Darlow! Another prediction, I think he will go with Harris up top. The only player who’s actually scoring goals in the squad Finally, I think it will be a tough night. Wales 1 Turkey 3 |
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 10:14:42 GMT
Neh. We got this! Will certainly not end 0-0 ... My prediction is Wales 4 Turkey 2 I'm completely behind Bellamy's approach to this - happy to sacrifice some initial results for longer-term gain. So although I think it could be a difficult night, I'm not disheartened at all by it. I'm just looking forward to see the type of ideas we're going to try to implement. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 6, 2024 10:22:08 GMT
Neh. We got this! Will certainly not end 0-0 ... My prediction is Wales 4 Turkey 2 I wouldn’t go down the bookies with that 66/1 |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2024 10:56:37 GMT
I think whilst the players are taking a lot of information on, I think the basics are easy enough for most of them to grapple. "Stand here", "keep the ball don't hoof it", "make this run", "create an overload on the left" - it's stuff they can all handle. We might not get an immaculate performance but I think there's nothing stopping a good performance that implements some of Bellamy's ideas - that might be enough for a win, Turkey are not world class
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 6, 2024 11:24:50 GMT
Turkey are not world class No, but they do have one or two world class players. We don't. |
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Post by melynwy on Sept 6, 2024 11:29:41 GMT
The official squad as per dragonsoccer - unlss I am missing something, we are only naming 22 players? Is there no number 2? 1 Karl Darlow | Leeds Utd 3 Neco Williams | Nottingham Forest 4 Ben Davies | Tottenham Hotspur 5 Ethan Ampadu | Leeds Utd 6 Joe Rodon | Leeds Utd 7 Mark Harris | Oxford Utd 8 Harry Wilson | Fulham 9 Lewis Koumas | Liverpool - loan Stoke City 10 Aaron Ramsey | Cardiff City 11 Brennan Johnson | Tottenham Hotspur 12 Danny Ward | Leicester City 13 Kieffer Moore | Sheffield Utd 14 Connor Roberts | Burnley 15 Ollie Cooper | Swansea City 16 Ben Cabango | Swansea City 17 Jordan James | Stade Rennais 18 Owen Beck | Liverpool - loan Blackburn 19 Sorba Thomas | Huddersfield - loan Nantes 20 Rubin Colwill | Cardiff City 21 Adam Davies | Sheffield Utd 22 Josh Sheehan | Bolton Wanderers 23 Charlie Crew | Leeds Utd Missing out : Liam Cullen | Swansea City Chris Mepham | Bournemouth - suspended Looks like I may be right in my prediction of starting Darlow! Ward's always had #12 for us hasn't he? I guess it's by choice. |
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Post by jimmytaff on Sept 6, 2024 11:35:08 GMT
Turkey are not world class No, but they do have one or two world class players. We don't. Who would they be out of interest? The kid who went to Madrid I assume - who else? |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 6, 2024 11:38:36 GMT
Turkey are not world class No, but they do have one or two world class players. We don't. Do they? They have a smattering of players at good clubs and a top prospect in Guler but there's nobody there that stands out as world class |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2024 11:40:24 GMT
Turkey are not world class No, but they do have one or two world class players. We don't. Do they? I don't think they do. Calhanoglu is a good player but I don't put him in the world class bracket. Celik & Ozcan are the only two that regularly start in the top 5 leagues, for Roma & Wolfsburg respectively. Neither are top class in my opinion. Then you've got the two young forwards Guler & Yildiz both at Real Madrid & Juventus but neither start for them despite being talented young players The rest of their squad play in the Turkish or Portuguese leagues. On paper they are better than us but there's no player there that would be recognised as world class as far as I can tell. A lot of youngsters too, they only have 3 players over 50 caps |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2024 11:42:14 GMT
No, but they do have one or two world class players. We don't. Who would they be out of interest? The kid who went to Madrid I assume - who else? Guler is obviously a talent but world class? No - he doesn't start for Madrid & has played 16 games for them. He's not yet world class, maybe in a few years but not now |
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Post by iot on Sept 6, 2024 11:42:22 GMT
Guess it depends on your definition of world class. Either way, both Guller and Calhanoglu are extremely talented attacking midfielders who could cause all sorts of issues for our shaky defence learning a new system.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 6, 2024 11:47:43 GMT
My final prediction for the lineup is...
Ward
Neco-Cabango-Rodon-Davies
Ampadu-Ramsey
Brennan-Wilson-Koumas
Harris
Got a feeling Bellamy will start with two 10s - Ramsey & Wilson, pushing them further forward in possession with Davies tucking across forming a back 3, enabling Neco to push into midfield/further forward. In possession it will look something like...
Cabango-Rodon-Davies
Neco-Ampadu
Wilson-Ramsey-Koumas
Brennan-Harris
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 6, 2024 12:01:51 GMT
My final prediction for the lineup is... Ward Neco-Cabango-Rodon-Davies Ampadu-Ramsey Brennan-Wilson-Koumas Harris Got a feeling Bellamy will start with two 10s - Ramsey & Wilson, pushing them further forward in possession with Davies tucking across forming a back 3, enabling Neco to push into midfield/further forward. In possession it will look something like... Cabango-Rodon-Davies Neco-Ampadu Wilson-Ramsey-Koumas Brennan-Harris Wonder if he might play Ampadu at centre back if he wants to play out from the back |
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Post by talyfan on Sept 6, 2024 12:02:07 GMT
Any mentions of playing out from the back? Not sure it's in Ward repertoire, not sure on the other keepers either.
Funny feeling it could be Davies starting
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