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Post by dragon64 on Nov 11, 2024 20:31:03 GMT
Assuming Sorba is fit to start then I think there's a lot to be said for him starting as a false 9. The disallowed goal against Turkiye showed his pace and composure in finishing. His superb cross that Rodon should have buried also shows he has the capabilities that Ramsey showed with the ball over the top for Sorba for the offside goal. I certainly wouldn't mind Brooks starting, although I'm not sure that high pressing is a notable part of his game. This isnt a bash Sorba post from me,its my honest opinion of him, he deserves his place in the squad but we have to be realistic with his abilities Sorba was really good v Turkey and has played some of his best football for us under Bellamy, however IMO he shouldn't start unless we are short, there are far better options IMO he isnt that composed he showed that in the last game he was put through by Davies had a clear run on goal and inside the box instead of taking the shot or pulling it back to other players he launched a sky rocket that went out for a throw in on the other flank I see him as a player who appears very awkward on the ball [that works in his favour at times as defenders think he hasnt got the ball under control] He makes good ground initially, but it flatters to deceive if going false 9 go with one of these Brennan,Broadhead,Koumas I have picked Brennan in my Xl but I suspect Harris will get the central position due to his work ethic I am hoping we see Dan James start and also be used as he is at Leeds swapping flanks during the game, his pace is going to be a great weapon we need to make the most of it |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 11, 2024 20:39:14 GMT
Harris and Cullen are the obvious choices but neither have the pace nor the quality on the ball of Thomas. His stats from his time with relegated Huddersfield in the Championship are exceptionally good - far better than either Harris nor Cullen's.
By the way Soyuncu will miss our game - a big loss for them. I'm pretty sure Yildiz is missing thanks to two yellow cards - also a big loss as he's been on form for Juventus. Brighton's Kodioglu also missing through injury. Even so, their squad is stronger on paper, with two Benfica players, one Inter, one Real Madrid, and 1 Roma.
Akturkoglu is the one to fear. 4 goals in this campaign and 5 goals and 3 assists from 7 games for Benfica - averaging a very impressive 8.18 on Fotmob.
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Post by dragon64 on Nov 11, 2024 23:54:08 GMT
Harris and Cullen are the obvious choices but neither have the pace nor the quality on the ball of Thomas. His stats from his time with relegated Huddersfield in the Championship are exceptionally good - far better than either Harris nor Cullen's. By the way Soyuncu will miss our game - a big loss for them. I'm pretty sure Yildiz is missing thanks to two yellow cards - also a big loss as he's been on form for Juventus. Brighton's Kodioglu also missing through injury. Even so, their squad is stronger on paper, with two Benfica players, one Inter, one Real Madrid, and 1 Roma. Akturkoglu is the one to fear. 4 goals in this campaign and 5 goals and 3 assists from 7 games for Benfica - averaging a very impressive 8.18 on Fotmob. those are real positives for us, Kodioglu missed the first game too IIRC, he is a really good full back/WB glad he isnt playing |
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 12, 2024 11:24:44 GMT
Striker and goalkeeper are the weakest areas of the squad so having our current top scorer out is a blow but hopefully Bellamy does the right thing and plays Brennan down the middle and James and either Brooks or Sorba either side of him, that's the future I think.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 12, 2024 13:33:59 GMT
Broadhead out of the squad now. Charlie Crew called up
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 12, 2024 13:44:35 GMT
ITFC confirm minor groin injury, though did turn up in camp late sunday afternoon
Charlie Crew called up (was on standby) as posted last night played for Leeds U21s in a EPL cup game
Explains why not in the final Wales U19 squad
No JJ in photos yesterday as it was lunchtime he was arriving from France
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Post by dai on Nov 12, 2024 14:42:23 GMT
ITFC confirm minor groin injury, though did turn up in camp late sunday afternoon
Charlie Crew called up (was on standby) as posted last night played for Leeds U21s in a EPL cup game Explains why not in the final Wales U19 squad No JJ in photos yesterday as it was lunchtime he was arriving from France How does a player get injured when he doesn't even play?! |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 12, 2024 18:58:58 GMT
Koumas through the middle with James & Johnson either side?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 12, 2024 19:05:31 GMT
With Moore, Burns and Broadhead put, and with Crew replacing the latter, Mullin and/or Evans must surely be on standby. Any info on this?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 12, 2024 19:59:19 GMT
If I was picking the team my front three would be Brooks (RW), Brennan (ST) & DJ (LW) with Wilson behind them. So far Bellamy has only wanted to use Brennan on the right, but I'd be excited to see what those four could do on the break against Turkey
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Post by dragon64 on Nov 12, 2024 20:03:49 GMT
If I was picking the team my front three would be Brooks (RW), Brennan (ST) & DJ (LW) with Wilson behind them. So far Bellamy has only wanted to use Brennan on the right, but I'd be excited to see what those four could do on the break against Turkey yes that for me too, but I would like to see Koumas have a go at '9' at some stage but won't be surprised to see Harris there |
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Post by welshwhite on Nov 12, 2024 20:19:37 GMT
With Moore, Burns and Broadhead put, and with Crew replacing the latter, Mullin and/or Evans must surely be on standby. Any info on this? Aaron Collins ? just scored a cracker against the Fleetwood reserve keeper. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 12, 2024 20:27:38 GMT
With Moore, Burns and Broadhead put, and with Crew replacing the latter, Mullin and/or Evans must surely be on standby. Any info on this? Aaron Collins ? just scored a cracker against the Fleetwood reserve keeper. I did think about Collins after posting. But does he have the pace for Bellamy's high press. |
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Post by welshwhite on Nov 12, 2024 20:31:12 GMT
Aaron Collins ? just scored a cracker against the Fleetwood reserve keeper. I did think about Collins after posting. But does he have the pace for Bellamy's high press. Probably not, he can be a lazy fkr. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 12, 2024 21:27:53 GMT
I did think about Collins after posting. But does he have the pace for Bellamy's high press. Probably not, he can be a lazy fkr. Shame, because that probably rules him out. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 12, 2024 21:30:56 GMT
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Post by welshwhite on Nov 12, 2024 21:38:51 GMT
Aaron Collins ? just scored a cracker against the Fleetwood reserve keeper. I did think about Collins after posting. But does he have the pace for Bellamy's high press. A second one from Collins, albeit in a competition that no-one properly understands |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 12, 2024 21:43:18 GMT
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Post by welshwhite on Nov 12, 2024 21:44:20 GMT
To be fair, the Fleetwood reserve keeper looked decent, so if Harrington is keeping him out of the first team, that seems a promising sign.
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Post by dragon64 on Nov 12, 2024 21:57:20 GMT
With Moore, Burns and Broadhead put, and with Crew replacing the latter, Mullin and/or Evans must surely be on standby. Any info on this? Aaron Collins ? just scored a cracker against the Fleetwood reserve keeper. good shout along with Hedges[if fit] they must have been looked at as standby options, it would be Evans for me though  |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 13, 2024 7:34:29 GMT
Observations from past few days
Under 21 head coach Matty Jones on camp
Aaron Ramsey also on camp on Tuesday, Looks like Joe Allen not involved in training
Squad training today late morning
Squad travel to Turkey tomorrow
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 13, 2024 19:08:05 GMT
Observations from past few days Under 21 head coach Matty Jones on camp Aaron Ramsey also on camp on Tuesday, Looks like Joe Allen not involved in training Squad training today late morning Squad travel to Turkey tomorrow Do you know who's on the standby list? It would give an indication of how far the likes of Mullin and Evans are away from a future callup. |
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 13, 2024 20:12:10 GMT
no standby list available this month
all info i have is on the website
Allen trained today
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 14, 2024 10:09:26 GMT
I'll be honest, I've not got a great feeling about this one, I think we're going to really miss Ampadu and I'm worried that Jordan James might overstep the mark trying to fill his boots. Bellamy is going to have to be really smart with his team selection and we're going to have to cut back on some of the playing it around at the back with the keepers because none of ours are very good at playing football and in a game, location and atmosphere like we'll be in it's just not clever. Keep it safe, tight and simple and look to counter with the pace we have. Brennan and James have to start and both need at least an hour, run Turkey ragged at any opportunity because, as we've seen in the past, they really don't like us doing that to them and they are a little ill disciplined.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 14, 2024 10:31:12 GMT
I don't expect us to win, and the most likely result is a Turkiye win. However, I don't see Bellamy changing our approach that much from the home game. A lot will depend on whether Allen is deemed fit enough to start. If so, I see us playing out from the back, as in Cardiff. Bellamy reckons the intensity of Turkish football isn't that great, so there's no reason to expect a change of approach. Having said that Turkiye will know what to expect and will presumably be better prepared to counter our tactics.
One concern from the first 4 games us how our second half showings have been significantly poorer than our first half performances. Especially against Iceland and Turkiye. Is that down to the difficulty of sustaining a high press over 90 minutes? Or the weakness of our bench options? Probably a bit of both.
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Post by iot on Nov 14, 2024 12:20:24 GMT
I agree with winsum. Bellamy does want us to play in different ways, but all under the same set of core principles - and they include trying to impose ourselves on the opponents by dominating the ball, winning it back as quickly as we can with a high press and intensity. I get the point that the added pressure / hostile atmosphere could make it more difficult to play that way, but Bellamy’s not about to change the whole identity of the team, going with a low block, direct, conservative and counterattacking approach, not should he.
I think both Ward and Darlow have done a decent job playing the way that Bellamy wants them to, so I can’t see that as a reason to change our style.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 14, 2024 12:41:12 GMT
I agree with winsum. Bellamy does want us to play in different ways, but all under the same set of core principles - and they include trying to impose ourselves on the opponents by dominating the ball, winning it back as quickly as we can with a high press and intensity. I get the point that the added pressure / hostile atmosphere could make it more difficult to play that way, but Bellamy’s not about to change the whole identity of the team, going with a low block, direct, conservative and counterattacking approach, not should he. I think both Ward and Darlow have done a decent job playing the way that Bellamy wants them to, so I can’t see that as a reason to change our style. Exactly, it's going to be much the same as before. The way I see it the pitch is far more of a factor in playing this way than the atmosphere. Once the players settle into the match I doubt they think much about the atmosphere. That pitch in Montenegro made it very difficult, the Iceland pitch wasn't amazing either but we still had spells of doing the right thing in both games I don't know what Kayseri will be like, although a quick search says it's one of the more modern stadiums in Turkey, so I expect it will be decent enough Turkey will adapt but they will also come forward more being at home, and will therefore leave gaps which will work in our favour. I feel positive about having a real go at them, unlike last time we visited |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 14, 2024 12:57:27 GMT
We need to target a win in this game and not be soft and say we are only little old Wales.
Yes we are missing experienced players but we never have a full squad, we need to adapt.
We have not had a noticeable big away victory since Israel in March 2015. If we are going to qualify for the World Cup automatically we need to take more from away games.
I am more confident with Bellamy going into this game. Page out in Croatia was a disgrace subbing off big players with 30mins to go despite only being a goal behind to a team that score very few.
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Nov 14, 2024 13:01:27 GMT
I agree. And we must certainly do better than when we were last on Turkish soil. Funnily enough, I don't feel too bad about this upcoming match and think we can nick it, 1-0. Which would set things up nicely for Tuesday night against Iceland!
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Post by johnoster on Nov 14, 2024 15:01:53 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Turkey start the game, given that they were without the ball for most of the first half in Cardiff.
Our profligacy in front of goal aside, the only time we looked uncomfortable in that game was when they pressed us high, for a period at the beginning of the second half. For unknown reasons, they only did this for a short period, then allowed us time on the ball again. Maybe they don't have it in them to press for long periods?
I think they'll probably allow us the ball again, back themselves not to concede in a low block, and look for individual moments or Welsh mistakes.
We need to prove that we can break down the top team in the group, and also that we can continue to play well, away, after half time.
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