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Post by bale-droed on Jul 19, 2016 18:34:17 GMT
Never mind that's it for another year. Next time 3rd round hopefully
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 19, 2016 18:47:38 GMT
Cracking point by Malcolm Allen on commentary. TNS would be better off finishing second and trying their hand at the Europa league qualifiers
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Post by llannerch on Jul 24, 2016 15:58:25 GMT
llanerch, your deluded. Very few make it out of the WPL & go onto bigger & better things. You dont always need the best XI to have a good team spirit & the belief to beat anyone. Look at Greece, Denmark & Leicester City. Also, we have a semi-pro international team, who results arent great. If your 21-22yr old playing in WPL then you may have a chance of being noticed & moving to English Pyramid. Otherwise its just older players who didnt quite make it for one reason or another playing at the highest level possible to them. I know one guy who played in that Barry side from a few years ago. He was set to have been offered a contract at a big club. Change of manager & the new manager didnt fancy his style & released him. He fell out of love with the game & plummeted through the divisions before ending up at Barry & never got back up again. Er, you call me deluded yet argue against very few of my points. Ad for your Barry Town anedcote there's not a single person on this board who doesn't know someone with a similar hard luck story. Proves nothing |
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Post by llannerch on Jul 24, 2016 16:01:05 GMT
League two is about right for TNS. Then a couple of teams would be scrapping around the bottom of the Conference and the rest are around Colwyn Bay level. Our league is Semi Pro but one, whereas the Conference is all Pro, the standard of football is obviously going to be a lot better in the conference seeing as they are competing for largely the same group of players. The very best WPL players, like the already mentioned Christian Doidge who went to Dagenham and Redbridge go to teams in the bottom of League Two and it seldom works out. Doidge has just joined Forest Green. Llanerch your model of selling players to English clubs is a good one but it's not feasible. The problem is these clubs can't afford to give players anymore than a one year rolling contract, if a players any good "buying" clubs just wait for the contract to end at the end of the season and get the player for free. Like I said earlier the best thing we can do to help the league is go to games and put money behind the counter of our local clubs. I don't think saying the overall quality of the league is below conference level is trashing the league at all, it's being realistic. We need a domestic league and it's always going to struggle without our biggest population areas playing in it, I actually think it's in rude health right now. Good point about year contracts. They probably do undermine the value of players. But if clubs are producing young talent then presumably the tribunal system will ensure, to a degree, that clubs are recompensed even if the players are out of contract? |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Aug 12, 2017 8:37:08 GMT
Article on BBC giving brief history and preview of the 17/18 season www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40899316Must have been a good game to watch at Bangor last night as the beat The New Saints 5-2. Also Bala beat Newtown 3-0 and Prestatyn lost at home to Connah's Quay 0-4. Goals galore last night! |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 12, 2017 10:30:29 GMT
Yes, good start to the new season. Might be more open than I expected.
Looking at the WPL website yesterday it still rankles with me at the number non-Welsh players in the squads. Is there a debate to be had for the use of quotas, in order to support indigenous players and their prospects of developing?
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 17, 2017 14:58:06 GMT
Might need to delve into the WPL with all the midfield issues!
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Post by derynglas on Aug 17, 2017 22:57:34 GMT
Aeron Edwards of TNS has been described as Allen-esque on this forum-and a Welsh speaker too!
Could be the ideal replacement.
Maybe sounds daft but we are talking about picking players who havent played for months
and bringing players out of retirement.
Wont happen off course but might be worth trying somebody like that in a friendly at some point.
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Post by alarch on Aug 18, 2017 10:51:19 GMT
I love the sentiment, and as the one who described Aeron Edwards' performance as Allen-esque I understand your point. But there's no realistic scenario where any WPL player could feature for Wales any time soon. But that should be an aspiration for the league, and not beyond the realms of possibility down the line.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Aug 18, 2017 16:05:55 GMT
Didn't the ex Wales manager toshack pick players from this league?
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Post by dai on Aug 18, 2017 16:16:10 GMT
Didn't the ex Wales manager toshack pick players from this league? Steve Evans comes to mind. However im not sure which team he played for? Or if it was a conference side |
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Post by dai on Aug 18, 2017 16:18:37 GMT
I reckon Ben Davies could give it a good go in midfield, if we went 4 at the back
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 19, 2017 9:41:13 GMT
Didn't the ex Wales manager toshack pick players from this league? Steve Evans comes to mind. However im not sure which team he played for? Or if it was a conference side Played for Wrexham in the conference when he played against Russia. But in terms of Welsh Premier I don't think it should even be open to debate until we actually get teams qualifying in Europe. Malta and Luxembourg are higher in the coefficient then the Welsh Premier. I'm pretty sure TNS had a player representing Wales at Under 16 level a few years back which is a massive step forward. Focus should be on trying to increase that, maybe getting a few in the U21 squad and qualifying for European tournaments. |
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Post by llan123 on Aug 19, 2017 12:32:21 GMT
If they were any good or up to the standard required they wouldn't be playing in a part time league.
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 19, 2017 21:06:46 GMT
If they were any good or up to the standard required they wouldn't be playing in a part time league. Hopefully we can develop a production line of young Welsh talent, the ones that are picked up will be replaced. I believe we will get there one day. |
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Post by derynglas on Aug 20, 2017 8:19:45 GMT
Mark Delaney played in the part time league till he was nearly 23 and turned out
to be one of the best right backs weve ever had.
Owain Tudur Jones was transferred from Bangor to Swansea in 2006 and was selected
for Wales u21 within 48 hours without having kicked a ball for his new club.
Jordan Follows was in the u21 squad while at Llanelli.
Good to give players a chance particularly at youth level to make our player base bigger.
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 27, 2018 18:18:45 GMT
Not seen it mentioned on here. Thought I’d open it up to debate. It looked like the Welsh Premier was about to take a huge step forward with Caernarfon and Llanelli returning to the league, however yesterday came the news that Bangor City will be relegated for failing their domestic licence appeal.
I do believe it should be necessary for teams to comply with the standards, it is a shame though to see one of the biggest teams and a ‘full time’ team with a good youth set up relegated when they will be finishing 2nd or 3rd.
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Post by derynglas on Apr 27, 2018 21:24:32 GMT
Seen on several social media platforms that Bangor City's current sponsors
are a bunch of crooks and have left all the clubs theyv been involved in some
sort of shambolic financiall meltdown.
Still not too many fans will be too keen on a system where the best supported
club who finished second is expelled from the league on the eve of the last
round of matches.These issues should be settled on the field of play.
On a positive note the Southern half of the WPL is looking healthier with the
survival of Carmarthen and the promotion of Llanelli.Although we at Harri West
may have benefitted from a failure by the reds to obtain a licence, nevertheless
its a great story that Llanelli have now followed Barry back to the WPL 5 years
after they were both demoted to division 3 of the Welsh league.Theyv been teriffic
and fully deserve their success.
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Post by biwmares on Apr 27, 2018 21:42:53 GMT
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 28, 2018 7:56:22 GMT
Apparently it was got around because he was just a part owner. Hearing rumours that not all the finances were accounted for. They’ve wasted money on full time players, trained in Wrexham all season and finish in the Cymru Alliance with rumoured debts of £250,000. The league would have looked quite healthy with Bangor, Caernarfon, Barry and Llanelli in it. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Apr 28, 2018 10:20:24 GMT
Shame to see Bangor City demoted after finishing runners up in the league. There must have been something dodgy going on behind the scenes there as both Connahs Quay and Llanelli won their appeals.
Founder members of the WPL and never been out of it until now. Maybe next season will allow them time to get their house in order and return stronger in the future with a few more Welsh players in the team.
Opportunity for Wrexham to move for Danny Gossett in the summer.
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 28, 2018 18:51:07 GMT
Shame to see Bangor City demoted after finishing runners up in the league. There must have been something dodgy going on behind the scenes there as both Connahs Quay and Llanelli won their appeals. Founder members of the WPL and never been out of it until now. Maybe next season will allow them time to get their house in order and return stronger in the future with a few more Welsh players in the team. Opportunity for Wrexham to move for Danny Gossett in the summer. Will be a hard division to get out of. Bangor, Rhyl, Airbus, Prestatyn. The Cymru Alliance is starting to look more like the Welsh Prem than the Welsh Prem is. |
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Post by biwmares on May 1, 2018 18:42:16 GMT
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Post by massivefloodlights on May 2, 2018 7:54:26 GMT
There was supposedly a clear the air meeting between owners and fans of Bangor City on Monday night. Anyone know how it went?
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Post by welshiron on May 2, 2018 8:09:31 GMT
Looks like they got in bed with the wrong backer and are now paying the price having benefited from the rumoured dodgy money
Seems fair to me but it is a shame for the supporters.
Not surprisingly clubs take what Money they can when they have to show they have 250k in the bank just to compete.
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Post by welshiron on May 2, 2018 8:13:01 GMT
I know it won't happen but I would like to see a 16 league team with Merthyr and Wrexham joining.
Also a Cardiff and Swansea based club who link up with their first teams.
This would increase support massively increase TV coverage and sponsorship which would be great for all the teams involved.
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Post by ystradwales on May 2, 2018 8:54:20 GMT
I know it won't happen but I would like to see a 16 league team with Merthyr and Wrexham joining. Also a Cardiff and Swansea based club who link up with their first teams. This would increase support massively increase TV coverage and sponsorship which would be great for all the teams involved. I've always thought the same. In my comments on the FAW consultation on their strategic plan I mentioned this. It would be better financially if there were more teams in areas of population playing in the Welsh Premier League. It would be great if Cwmbran Town could climb back up (town with a population of almost 50,000) and if Penybont could be promoted. Would also be good if the WPL became the league of choice for Cardiff Swansea and Newport to loan youngsters to so that they get a chance to play competitive first team football |
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Post by cymroircarn on May 2, 2018 9:17:14 GMT
Also, how about starting the league when the English leagues finish?
Would this be a way to increase attendances? A winter break could be introduced then when the weather is traditionally bad.
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Post by welshiron on May 2, 2018 11:06:13 GMT
Problem with that is the European games start so early. Weather not too big a problem as a lot of games are on 4g
Would be an idea to maybe finish the season in the summer the week before the European games start. This would mean crucial games would get more coverage and the teams going into Europe would be match fit and have a better chance.
As for penybont and Pontypridd
Penybont are struggling to get people through the door but are fairly close to going up
Pontypridd don't have a ground and will possibly still be in division 2 next season. However, a new ground is being built on the treforest campus
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Post by phillywelsh83 on May 2, 2018 11:09:43 GMT
Also, how about starting the league when the English leagues finish? Would this be a way to increase attendances? A winter break could be introduced then when the weather is traditionally bad. Ive always called for this, i think it massively help attendances. Also think there needs to be more Southern teams, as another user mentioned, having clubs with larger populations, logically would have the ability to call on larger crowds. There isn't a fair way of doing this however, the clubs are there because they are the best. Having Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham "B" sides might be an idea, but i think this isnt possible due to the clubs being registered in England. Also, might be detrimental to the existing clubs. Possibly the idea of priority loans from these clubs into the league. But for this to work, the quality has to be there, these clubs are not going to prioritse the WPL over the National League or NL North & South as the quality at the moment is higher. |
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