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Post by dragon64 on Aug 24, 2024 3:48:13 GMT
Even though they should still walk the league I am hoping the group stage might effect TNS and give someone else a real chance at the title this season
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 24, 2024 19:27:42 GMT
Even though they should still walk the league I am hoping the group stage might effect TNS and give someone else a real chance at the title this season  Who do you think could challenge for the title if as I hope TNS dont dominate due to continental games? like the look of Penybont and Haverfordwest but CQN and Bala will be in the mix Here is table after the latest results.  Bank holiday games on Monday-  |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2024 16:56:04 GMT
It's crunch day for TNS, hopefully a straight forward game ahead
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Post by iot on Aug 29, 2024 18:15:14 GMT
Connor Roberts' distribution (not him, the other one) is elite and a fair bit better than the keepers we've selected. Might not be the worst idea in the world to give him a call up and take a closer look
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 29, 2024 19:01:15 GMT
Connor Roberts' distribution (not him, the other one) is elite and a fair bit better than the keepers we've selected. Might not be the worst idea in the world to give him a call up and take a closer look There are several keepers in the JD Prem who are pretty good I would have no issue with one of them getting a chance |
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 29, 2024 19:32:21 GMT
So TNS are through 0-0 at home
said this before-I am hoping the group stage might effect TNS and give someone else a real chance at the title this season
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Post by stevej on Aug 29, 2024 19:33:05 GMT
Fair play to them, that's 2 champions from other associations beaten over 2 legs.. 👏👏🥳🎉
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Post by kracken88 on Aug 29, 2024 19:39:58 GMT
A nice boring 0-0 ,that's what you want when you did the hard work away,was hoping it would have been on s4c, have they not got the rights moving forward to the group stages?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 29, 2024 19:42:19 GMT
It was live on their website.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2024 19:54:55 GMT
Great news that this is confirmed and I look forward to the draw to see who they will be facing
Any ideas where they will play their group games?
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Post by kracken88 on Aug 29, 2024 20:00:11 GMT
Ah ok I forgot about YouTube etc
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Post by kracken88 on Aug 29, 2024 20:06:06 GMT
Interesting points about the keeper and others in the league, obviously people would question the standard but with keepers sharpness must count for something, playing every game,do you have to think much faster and anticipate when you move up the system or would basic sharpness and ability compensate,no idea just wondering
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Post by kracken88 on Aug 29, 2024 20:09:54 GMT
Sorry stupid really,of course it matters,if it didn't we'd have a hundred champions league keepers,but keepers are a strange breed,I think taking someone from the league would be interesting
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Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 29, 2024 20:49:44 GMT
Ah ok I forgot about YouTube etc It wasn't on YouTube, only on their website, as was the first leg. |
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 29, 2024 21:39:29 GMT
Glad that glass ceiling has been shattered. Even though I'm really supportive of them in Europe, they wouldn't have been my first pick to achieve it, but fair play to them.
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Post by welshrover on Aug 29, 2024 22:47:39 GMT
It says on the match report of Larne (Northern Ireland) who have also made it through that will get £2.6 million just for getting there before any win or draw bonuses.
Presumably TNS will receive the same?
Will make the League even more one sided you would think.
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 29, 2024 23:05:21 GMT
It says on the match report of Larne (Northern Ireland) who have also made it through that will get £2.6 million just for getting there before any win or draw bonuses. Presumably TNS will receive the same? Will make the League even more one sided you would think. That is the catch 22 wanting a 'Welsh' side to reach the groups, but also knowing the gap will just get even worse between them and the others |
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Post by garynysmon on Aug 29, 2024 23:53:53 GMT
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Post by vvm on Aug 30, 2024 8:06:26 GMT
Presumably the more they can increase their personal coefficient then the better chance of being seeded in future qualification campaigns there is. Coefficient points for wins and draws count for double in the league stage so any results they get will be vital.
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Post by garynysmon on Aug 30, 2024 8:09:46 GMT
Its hard to break in, but once you're in its harder for other teams to knock you off your perch.
Given how much TNS win the league by every season anyway, I'm not really bothered about the talk of TNS ultra-dominance.
Its not like they're paying £10k a week to their players and spending mega bucks on transfer fees, there's an element of organic growth there and any upstart Cymru Premier club that decided to go full-time could give them a decent challenge imo (as Connah's Quay Nomads were for their title winning years before reverting back to part-time).
Its their fitness and preparation levels that makes them stand out against other teams more than any other factor really. Ability-wise the gap isn't that big.
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Post by bringbackelmo on Aug 30, 2024 8:34:08 GMT
TNS qualifying has to be a good thing for the league overall. We just need a few more rich people to look at them playing Betis, Chelsea or whoever in the group stage and think "yeah, I fancy that". It's 100% raising the profile of the league and let's face it, TNS are entirely dominant at the moment anyway.
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Post by gimli on Aug 30, 2024 9:27:13 GMT
I just hope that any rich people who do fancy it decide to invest in well-supported clubs in populated areas that actually have potential to grow and add something to the league. We don't need any more bankrolled village teams who struggle to bring in 200 fans a game.
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Post by welshrover on Aug 30, 2024 9:29:33 GMT
I just hope that any rich people who do fancy it decide to invest in well-supported clubs in populated areas that actually have potential to grow and add something to the league. We don't need any more bankrolled village teams who struggle to bring in 200 fans a game. Quite, we should also remember that the village in question "lost" their team when he went across the border and presumably had to start again at the bottom. |
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Post by iot on Aug 30, 2024 9:38:56 GMT
If nothing else, what TNS have done is demonstrate the opportunity for potential investors elsewhere in Wales, something Mike Harris to his credit actively encourages. He's said they've now got a self-sufficient model - I wouldn't be surprised if they're making a decent return this year - and it wasn't that difficult to break into the conference group stage. Given a favourable draw, all you need is to win the first game then you have three bites at the cherry, and the chances are at least one of those will be against beatable opposition. So all an investor needs to do is pump in a few hundred grand / couple of million quid initially, and then in time it can run itself. If we had 3 or 4 such clubs in Wales, all bringing in those multi-million winnings from progress in Europe on a fairly regular basis, that would be massive for the league.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 30, 2024 10:15:12 GMT
The whole "the gap will widen" argument doesn't really stand up in my opinion when they have won 11 of the last 13 titles - how much wider can the gap really get?
This will bring eyes to the league and hopefully investment - investors now see that qualifying is a possibility which is huge potentially. Can only be a good thing for the league
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Post by dragon64 on Aug 30, 2024 22:34:59 GMT
The whole "the gap will widen" argument doesn't really stand up in my opinion when they have won 11 of the last 13 titles - how much wider can the gap really get? This will bring eyes to the league and hopefully investment - investors now see that qualifying is a possibility which is huge potentially. Can only be a good thing for the league Thats a fair point they are dominating anyway take them out of the league as the current table shows it would be an interesting fight for the title[but without them in Europe we would be kak] good win for Harverfordwest tonight 3-0  |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 31, 2024 9:00:02 GMT
The whole "the gap will widen" argument doesn't really stand up in my opinion when they have won 11 of the last 13 titles - how much wider can the gap really get? This will bring eyes to the league and hopefully investment - investors now see that qualifying is a possibility which is huge potentially. Can only be a good thing for the league Thats a fair point they are dominating anyway take them out of the league as the current table shows it would be an interesting fight for the title[but without them in Europe we would be kak] good win for Harverfordwest tonight 3-0 If they improve and continue to qualify then we get more European spots for the league, which means those other clubs have a pathway to more revenue. You'd also hope other clubs gain from playing against an improved TNS trying to match them too. Better for TNS to drag us upwards rather than not have them and have a league with only 3 European spots |
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Post by melynwy on Aug 31, 2024 9:47:24 GMT
Thats a fair point they are dominating anyway take them out of the league as the current table shows it would be an interesting fight for the title[but without them in Europe we would be kak] good win for Harverfordwest tonight 3-0 If they improve and continue to qualify then we get more European spots for the league, which means those other clubs have a pathway to more revenue. You'd also hope other clubs gain from playing against an improved TNS trying to match them too. Better for TNS to drag us upwards rather than not have them and have a league with only 3 European spots I agree with you. Yes it's a pretty rubbish situation, but the most probably alternative if TNS were not what they are is a worse league, with less interest, and less motivation for clubs to improve. As you said, the gap is massive anyway, so it's probably best that TNS push for as much success as they can, and hope that something positive comes out of it for the other clubs, be that financially, as extra European spots, motivation, FAW investment, or increasing the chances of more business people investing. |
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Post by melynwy on Aug 31, 2024 9:55:38 GMT
I have to admit, despite having close to zero interest in TNS as a club, that I'm pretty excited by all this.
It's a plain, simple, no ifs and buts example that the Welsh system can get you into Europe, and into millions of pounds. It's not hypothetical any more - it's happened. Let's hope it attracts investment to other clubs.
It can't go unnoticed by the other Welsh clubs in the English system - perhaps it could even open up discussion with UEFA about having a representative side from those clubs (U21 or reserves). Obviously those clubs could not be allowed to qualify for Europe through both the Welsh and English system, so perhaps without that carrot there'd be no incentive. And there's probably numerous other obstacles (they might simply not be allowed to register players to play in two different systems), but let's hope that these things are now entering the minds of more people.
It is potentially a massive milestone in the development of the Welsh system.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 31, 2024 10:25:47 GMT
It's amazing how easy it was for TNS to get to the group stages of the Conference League, once they'd comfortably beaten Decic, the Montenegrian champions. Three bites of the cherry. They could easily have succeeded at the second time of asking against the Moldovan champions, with a bit more conviction and luck.
So, for any wealthy businessman in Cymru with an interest in football there is the distinct possibility of being able to own a club, for a modest outlay, that can earn 4 million Euros by qualifying for the Conference League group stages. If that doesn't generate interest nothing will.
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