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Post by jon6a on Aug 17, 2010 15:23:34 GMT
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Post by Tim P on Aug 17, 2010 16:36:29 GMT
BOOM.
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Post by Tim P on Aug 17, 2010 16:38:39 GMT
Great for CCFC if they keep him all season and keep him fit; CCFC are nailed on for the Premier League if this goes through. However, it's toys out of the pram again for Bellars and he's cutting his nose off to spite his face, no ambition left and too much money again. what? this is the most ambitious move he could have made, certainly within the uk. what would the point be of moving to fulham? now THAT would be money motivated. he can make a genuine contribution here, with tangible, possibly life changing, results for a lot of people. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Aug 17, 2010 18:23:43 GMT
'I see myself as a different sort of Welsh. Because we (my family) are from Cardiff, we see Wales as Cardiff. This is Cardiff; outside is Wales. It’s a strange one. You are really Welsh, but you’re not, if you know what I mean.
I got this snippet from an article in the mail from an interview bellamy gave
He must be after a job at the bbc or with the assembly after he retires,them lot think wales is only cardiff
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Post by llannerch on Aug 17, 2010 20:25:20 GMT
'I see myself as a different sort of Welsh. Because we (my family) are from Cardiff, we see Wales as Cardiff. This is Cardiff; outside is Wales. It’s a strange one. You are really Welsh, but you’re not, if you know what I mean. I got this snippet from an article in the mail from an interview bellamy gave He must be after a job at the bbc or with the assembly after he retires,them lot think wales is only cardiff His press conference today shows he isn't excatly a natural orator; but he speaks (too?) honestly and passionately to be fair. I remember this article and he actually captures the essence of the dichotomy of Cardiff as the Welsh Capital City but not a very Welsh city, as well as anyone, if not particularly articulately... I'm probably showing Cardiffian bias though |
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Post by caradocevans on Aug 18, 2010 9:07:12 GMT
So when's Harry going to sell Bale then as confidently predicted by you?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 9:45:58 GMT
So when's Harry going to sell Bale then as confidently predicted by you? pwned! While we are on the subject I do recall I was the one who correctly predicted that Bale wasnt going anywhere... ;D |
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Post by Tim P on Aug 18, 2010 17:01:44 GMT
redknapp will sell bale when he receives a concrete offer - probably after spuds have crashed out of the champions league and it's obvious that they are going to be nowhere near next year's competition.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 18:31:05 GMT
redknapp will sell bale when he receives a concrete offer - probably after spuds have crashed out of the champions league and it's obvious that they are going to be knowhere near next year's competition. You still think so? Bale is the heartbeat of that spurs side. He will never sell unless a huge offer (£30mill+) comes in. Just think, if Milner is worth 20mill+ off the back of some dodgy world cup performances when england were for the most part humiliated, then how much is bale worth? |
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Post by Tim P on Aug 18, 2010 19:20:24 GMT
i don't think redknapp would have a choice - had spurs not got into the top4, they would have had to sell two players by all accounts.
how much is bale worth? well, it depends who wants him. city would pay over the odds, clearly. i'd say he was worth the same as milner (and both have a long way to go in terms of consistency and impact in big games at a high level), so upwards of 15m.
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Post by saints19 on Aug 18, 2010 20:11:52 GMT
Spurs ought to make it into the groups in the CL, 3-2 away from home isn't that bad a result. In other words, a 1-0 or 2-1 win would be enough at WHL, and I can definitely see that happening.
Bale should stay at Spurs, even if they don't qualify.
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Post by jonathandearth on Aug 19, 2010 7:08:15 GMT
As this is a Wales board rather than a Cardiff City forum, then this is a disaster.
Bellamy was our only Premiership striker. If this was a decision based on not playing at all or playing for Cardiff then I don't blame Bellamy. But if Man City would have let him go to another Premiership team or even Celtic then he should have done so.
If the latter then I think Toshack should take the captains armband from him. Give it to Collins.
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Post by saints19 on Aug 19, 2010 11:21:36 GMT
That would be totally inappropriate.
Bellamy has the total on-pitch respect of the other players, and based on what we've all seen of his personality there is absolutely no reason to think that moving down a division is going to make him any less of a player. When he went to Celtic, even though it was a drop in standards he still played at his peak. It will be the same with Cardiff.
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Post by caradocevans on Aug 19, 2010 11:59:58 GMT
The amount of thinly veiled jealousy directed towards us over the acquisition of Bellamy on loan has been staggering.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2010 14:09:19 GMT
The amount of thinly veiled jealousy directed towards us over the acquisition of Bellamy on loan has been staggering. To be fair I think Cardiff have taken the mickey somewhat and I can rightly understand the consternation from most quarters. Its bang out of order that Cardiff miss their payments to Motherwell and yet manage to sign Bellamy and pay him 45k a week. and thats not jealousy, just other football clubs on a sound financial footing wondering how other clubs can be run into the ground yet still be allowed to take liberties. What happened to this malaysian businessman anyway? I thought he was paying off all Cardiffs tax debts and outstanding transfer fees? |
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Post by llannerch on Aug 19, 2010 19:32:49 GMT
If the latter then I think Toshack should take the captains armband from him. Give it to Collins. I'd say it has sweet f.a. to do with Toshack. That said, since discussions have been going on for weeks do you reckon Bellamy ran it past Tosh? |
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Post by Tim P on Aug 19, 2010 20:07:59 GMT
playing for celtic would not be a higher standard than playing for Cardiff. i'd fancy Cardiff over two legs, certainly.
bellamy will not suffer by playing the champ - if anything, it will get him more used to playing with less technical players, and give him a better understanding of how to adapt his game accordingly.
bellamy is the leader of this squad. that much was evident against luxembourg.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 19, 2010 20:19:50 GMT
if anything, it will get him more used to playing with less technical players, and give him a better understanding of how to adapt his game accordingly. He's played with Steve Evans, lest you forget trendy |
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Post by dewi712 on Aug 21, 2010 18:27:38 GMT
bellamy 's move to cardiff in my opinion is a far better move than many think,the scottish league is no better than the championship,there are far better players doing their trade in the championship and a lot more quality too.celtic in fairness are hardly the team they were.
look at cardiff alone, i bet ledleys kicking himself really for the move,cardiff have an excellent base of quality players at the moment,and could be up there for promotion,
by the way excellent result today,
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Post by jonathandearth on Aug 23, 2010 8:41:43 GMT
It's a disastrous move for Wales, because Bellamy is a Premiership quality player - was our only Premiership striker.
And with a derisory 3 players only playing in the Premiership on Saturday a few weeks before the next qualifiers start.
In the Championship, Bellamy will be dragged down to that level across the season. It is the end of his career of any significance and bad news for Wales.
No jealousy. I don't support any clubs only Wales.
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Post by Tim P on Aug 23, 2010 17:11:48 GMT
I really don't think so - chances are he'll be up again next year anyway.
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 27, 2010 18:31:31 GMT
anyone else see it?
to summarise - were here to qualify , the players who cant be arsed to play for wales this campaign will be found out. and the young players arent so young anymore! time to step up to the plate.
good stuff to listen to!
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Post by Tim P on Aug 27, 2010 18:42:35 GMT
missed it - will it be on iplayer?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2010 18:43:34 GMT
anyone else see it? to summarise - were here to qualify , the players who cant be arsed to play for wales this campaign will be found out. and the young players arent so young anymore! time to step up to the plate. good stuff to listen to! Excellent chest beating stuff from Bellers! At least he cant be accused of not backing up words with deeds. Its a tough call hes made on the youngsters, a lot of people will be horrified that he is putting pressure on them, but I for one am tired of hearing the same old excuses from Tosh- they are no strangers to international football anymore. Time to step up to the plate as Bellers said. |
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Post by bale-droed on Aug 27, 2010 19:23:38 GMT
trendy i dont think it will be on iplayer
yer i found what he said to be great. some balls required to say what he said. young players might try harder, not as much drop outs from now on? if you drop out dear the wrath of craig
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Post by tai33stashon on Aug 29, 2010 10:45:19 GMT
bellamy may be a god player but es a scumbag disgrace wages e on and attackin women innocent till proven guilty my arse he well did it. DISCGRACE never do nothing but for himself he should of stayed in the PREMIER LEAGUE where its all at i hope cardiff FLOP.
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Post by ericyoung on Aug 29, 2010 11:07:49 GMT
I was going to post on this thread, but then I read the last reply. Is that supposed to be English? It's definitely not Welsh. I suppose it could pass as English. Any thoughts?
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Post by saints19 on Aug 29, 2010 11:39:18 GMT
It's gibberish. We could do with an 'ignore list' function on these boards.
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Post by ericyoung on Aug 29, 2010 14:14:04 GMT
RE Bellamy's comments. The "we're here to qualify" bit gave me goosebumps. He means every word.
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Post by saints19 on Aug 29, 2010 17:24:59 GMT
Absolutely, can't fault Bellamy's total commitment to the cause. The fact that he is still fired up at 31 with several failures to qualify behind him speaks a heck of a lot about his self-belief and confidence.
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