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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 29, 2010 11:22:38 GMT
I thought Cotterill was injured? Didn't play for the Jacks last night.
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 29, 2010 11:29:15 GMT
That paul abanatano whatever his name is does come up with bolloxs sometimes,
if its true, i stand my ground though.
bellamy plays against bulgaria we have double the chance to win
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Post by rushlegend on Sept 29, 2010 14:03:13 GMT
i stand my ground
Stand your ground about what???
It's not just Abandonallhopio that talks b******
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 29, 2010 14:17:10 GMT
Uh-oh, now on BBC website that he's out.....  |
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 29, 2010 14:34:28 GMT
rushledgend you insulting tosser, go suck eggs.
cardiff for 7th place this season i hope!!!
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Post by welshwizard79 on Sept 29, 2010 14:47:15 GMT
If he plays against Barnsley then doesnt turn up for Wales then this is clearly out of order. I support Cardiff but I knew that Dave Jones would be a cock about this. He stopped Marshall joining up with the Scottish team and he didnt play in the league cup game for City because Craig Levein said he wouldnt be picked in the sqaud again if he did. Now Bellamy will play for his club and not for his country just cos Flynn and Jones "have had a chat"!! Its a joke. Would it happen for an English international? Would it fuck..
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Post by rhys on Sept 29, 2010 14:49:25 GMT
Cardiff to finish 7th? Wanting a Welsh club to fail? That's clever of you.
And what club do you support? Lord "bellamyforever"?
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Post by bellamyforever on Sept 29, 2010 14:52:03 GMT
simple if he plays for cardiff against barnsley and is not even an impact sub for us in 2 games.
id fuck flynn off, hes not up for this one bit, hes our only one of 2 world class players with bale... and without him its gonna be twice as hard.
flynn is a total pussy.
cardiff are greedy bastards.
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Post by rhys on Sept 29, 2010 15:06:34 GMT
You're an idiot.
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Post by 1870magpie on Sept 29, 2010 15:12:25 GMT
yes Bellamy can be world class at times...but on the other hand is he a good influence on the team/squad? Flynn would know this sort of thing first hand......
Also he might not be that bothered as and it may be chance for him to really get to grips with the strikers he's used for the under 21's, which more often than not repaid Flynn with great performances?! I doubt very much that Flyn would give into Dave Twat Jones, as after all Bellamy is'nt Cardiffs player...he's only there on loan .........hmm........
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Post by saints19 on Sept 29, 2010 15:48:32 GMT
Cardiff to finish 7th? Wanting a Welsh club to fail? That's clever of you. And what club do you support? Lord "bellamyforever"? Honestly, at this point, I think I'd soon see Cardiff finish 7th if it meant Dave Jones getting the sack. That's right, I hate him that much. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 15:57:35 GMT
its simple if bellars plays satday flynn or whoevers the next boss needs to think long and hard about craigs future with wales!
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 29, 2010 16:11:11 GMT
simple if he plays for cardiff against barnsley and is not even an impact sub for us in 2 games. id fuck flynn off, hes not up for this one bit, hes our only one of 2 world class players with bale... and without him its gonna be twice as hard. flynn is a total pussy. cardiff are greedy bastards. What if it's Bellamy that does not want to play? Will you change your username then?  |
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Post by georgetm1 on Sept 29, 2010 16:34:34 GMT
FFS wait until saturday, then you can start arguing again. If he's injured Flynn, Bellamy and Jones cant do anything about it. And if anyone thinks Bellamy isn't commited to Wales they are funking mental. I still think he should be there with Wales during the games, because he is a leader. He needs to be there even if he cant play.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 29, 2010 20:12:09 GMT
I very much doubt Bellamy will even be on the bench for Cardiff Saturday. Its disappointing but hey, what can you do? I like the way Flynn has just said we'll have to get on with it. Morison and Church up top in a 4-4-2? Cotterill or Robson-Kanu on the right wing? I still feel we have a great chance of beating Bulgaria.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 29, 2010 20:39:49 GMT
i cant see Bellamy playing on Saturday then not playing for wales,it doesn't fit in with his previous behaviour at all.
saying that,if flynn has rolled over easily with this then whats to stop other managers thinking flynn is an easy touch? Redknapp and the likes would eat flynn for breakfast.
im not writing flynn off but maybe we need a stronger,more assertive manager(this is,of course,if the rumours are true)
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 29, 2010 20:45:19 GMT
There's no way Bellars will play on Saturday and not be involved with Wales at all for the 2 upcoming games. If he does play at all on Sat, fine, you can all have a go at Flynn for being 'weak' or whatever... but lets all just calm down till then, eh?
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 29, 2010 21:29:40 GMT
There's no way Bellars will play on Saturday and not be involved with Wales at all for the 2 upcoming games. If he does play at all on Sat, fine, you can all have a go at Flynn for being 'weak' or whatever... but lets all just calm down till then, eh? i did put 'if the rumours are true' in brackets. i cant see it being true at all,the job's not flynns yet and rolling over to the club managers will not go down well at a job interview so flynn would be a fool to agree to this before the job is 100% his. flynns stock would drop dramatically with the welsh fans and thats the main thing he's got going for him. it does make you wonder if the story has been put out there to put doubts in the fans heads about flynn ####conspiracy theory alert####### |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 22:31:53 GMT
The BBC have attributed a quote to Flynn where he intimates that he sat down and had a nice cosy chat with old Dave about Bellamys future.
This attitude of appeasement towards club managers is wrong, they are not going to help us at all and there are rules to protect our ability to call a player up and independently assess them. As its Bellamys knees it makes sense not to take any risks, but Im sure our medical people are capable of working that out. Ill bet that as all Dave has had to do is have a chat and Flynn has given up without a fight he thinks of this as a victory for him against the forces of darkness, ie international football.
If Flynn allows himself to be a soft touch then where will it stop?
The quote:
""I had a really long, excellent conversation with Dave Jones just over 10 days ago... and we made the decision that Craig will not be available due to his fitness.
"He has an ongoing knee problem and hasn't played for the last five games.
"Obviously we've been aware of that and unfortunately for Craig and for us he won't be able to put on a red shirt next week.
"It's a big disappointment for me as caretaker manager. I wanted Craig in the team but these things happen."
Way too soft.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 29, 2010 22:46:57 GMT
maybe after losing a few players(and games) flynn would have learned the hard way that he needs to lose his 'nice guy' image if he is to be a sucess at international level.as i said earlier ,IF this is true then club managers will be celebrating flynn getting the job like all their christmas' come early.
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2010 22:49:34 GMT
I'm no lover of Cardiff and Bellars is a bellend. However the guy is class and as patriotic as anyone posting here. I can see D Jones point of view, he wants CCFC going up, thats his job and I'm sure most Cardiff fans are happy with Bellars being rested.
However he cant play prior to the Bulgaria game, if he does he's a Judas and finished in my opinion and this has got nothing to do with CCFC or Jones (even Sparky was a wanker over Bellars), Bellars is his own man, that much is apparent.
Moreover, Bellars is 31 and gets injured too often. On top of this he is a disruptive element, would you want to play with him whingeing and whining all the time, it's negative. So perhaps Flynny doesn't mind too much, perhaps as someone else said he'd rather have his protogees up front instead.
I trust in Bellars to do the right thing for Wales but either way he's very close to his sell by date.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 29, 2010 23:08:38 GMT
it will be a real shame if bellars undoes years of loyalty and commitment by playing for cardiff on saturday and not playing for wales.unfortunately that is what he'd be remembered for.
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2010 23:31:27 GMT
it will be a real shame if bellars undoes years of loyalty and commitment by playing for cardiff on saturday and not playing for wales.unfortunately that is what he'd be remembered for. Bellars has got to have the balls to admit it to himself. If he can't cope with his knee then there's no shame in that. He might get an extra year at club level then. We all know his injuries are real, it's not like the Giggs scenario. There'll come a time when he can't please his employers and his country. That's reality. I just want him to be honest and I'm sure he will be. |
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Post by bismircher on Sept 30, 2010 17:15:58 GMT
Disgustin typical cardiff attitude sod wales bout time flynni made and example of this one 5match ban at least
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Post by rhys on Oct 1, 2010 2:40:12 GMT
Typical Cardiff attitude of sod Wales? How many Welsh players have we produced?
Bellamy isn't Giggs, he would always put Wales before Cardiff. Get off your high horses...
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Post by BA Baracus on Oct 1, 2010 8:04:55 GMT
I want Cardiff to do well and bring through plenty of young Welsh talent, but can't help thinking if Cardiff make it to the Premiership (and stick around) then pretty soon they will start talking about leaving the FAW and joining the FA. How's that good for Welsh football?
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Post by bellamyforever on Oct 1, 2010 8:29:35 GMT
Rhys your a cock
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Post by rhys on Oct 1, 2010 11:06:12 GMT
I want Cardiff to do well and bring through plenty of young Welsh talent, but can't help thinking if Cardiff make it to the Premiership (and stick around) then pretty soon they will start talking about leaving the FAW and joining the FA. How's that good for Welsh football? Why don't the FAW let Cardiff or Swansea have a chance at European football? We'd have a much better chance of the group stages than any of the LOW teams, now that would be good for Welsh football. The English FA are bringing in new rules so that if a Welsh team wants to compete in the English top flight then they have to come under their FA. |
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Post by bellamyforever on Oct 1, 2010 11:07:45 GMT
Cardiff arent in the premier league yet you numpty
fuck you want craig bellamy to be rested to play for your beloved bluebirds and you want free european football ? ha you have to earn that my low-braincell friend.
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Post by rhys on Oct 1, 2010 11:08:44 GMT
Why? Because I don't agree with your pathetic name calling or pointless resentment of Cardiff? You're either a jack or a plastic "fan" of the supposed "top 4". |
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