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Post by abwales on Oct 7, 2013 20:34:57 GMT
I don't want Dean Saunders to be manager, I just think he will be, because I think the FAW are narrow minded and out of date.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Oct 7, 2013 21:45:24 GMT
Feel a bit sorry for Bellamy. His last couple of games are gonna be hammerings!!!
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Post by scoop76 on Oct 7, 2013 22:30:39 GMT
Feel a bit sorry for Bellamy. His last couple of games are gonna be hammerings!!! Assuming he doesn't pick up a card on Friday, otherwise be Macedonia will be his final game for Wales. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 8:44:54 GMT
Tony Pulis was asked about Bellamy as a manager on Radio Wales this morning.
He said he would have to control his temper if he wanted to be a manager.
Stay classy Tony.
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Post by Tim P on Oct 8, 2013 8:49:46 GMT
Tony Pulis was asked about Bellamy as a manager on Radio Wales this morning. He said he would have to control his temper if he wanted to be a manager. Stay classy Tony. HAHAHAHA! |
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Post by squatter1 on Oct 8, 2013 8:56:57 GMT
Bellamy and Dutch is nuts and never going to happen.
It's nuts because Bellamy would be a bigger gamble than Di Canio at Sunderland, a man with zero coaching experience and whose latest book featured more c*nts than Sexy Beast.
And it's never going to happen because Dutch Ray has spent the last two years taking Twitter pot-shots at the FAW.
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Post by texan on Oct 8, 2013 9:11:14 GMT
Bellamy and Dutch is nuts and never going to happen. It's nuts because Bellamy would be a bigger gamble than Di Canio at Sunderland, a man with zero coaching experience and whose latest book featured more c*nts than Sexy Beast. And it's never going to happen because Dutch Ray has spent the last two years taking Twitter pot-shots at the FAW. ...and the fact that all this bollocks stemmed from one FAW PR guy being diplomatic, all crap from top to bottom. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 9:14:43 GMT
Bellamy and Dutch is nuts and never going to happen. It's nuts because Bellamy would be a bigger gamble than Di Canio at Sunderland, a man with zero coaching experience and whose latest book featured more c*nts than Sexy Beast. And it's never going to happen because Dutch Ray has spent the last two years taking Twitter pot-shots at the FAW. Its just what we need and it needs to happen. |
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Post by welshwizard79 on Oct 8, 2013 12:19:08 GMT
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Post by squatter1 on Oct 8, 2013 12:23:39 GMT
Whatever the score lines in the next two games, Bellers can walk out with his head held high.
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Post by welshiron on Oct 8, 2013 13:08:42 GMT
One of the best and most commited welsh players I have seen whilst watching Wales since the early eighties.
A real shame that he will never play at a major tournament.
Whilst I hope he does not become our next manager I wish him all the luck in the worldonce he embarks on a new career.
As I said on a previous thread evryone should turn up to thank Bellamy on Friday, he is an example to all current and future welsh players
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Post by toshfan on Oct 8, 2013 15:42:13 GMT
Bellamy and Dutch is nuts and never going to happen. It's nuts because Bellamy would be a bigger gamble than Di Canio at Sunderland, a man with zero coaching experience and whose latest book featured more c*nts than Sexy Beast. And it's never going to happen because Dutch Ray has spent the last two years taking Twitter pot-shots at the FAW. Its just what we need and it needs to happen. Still keen to know your thinking on this one? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 16:39:14 GMT
Its just what we need and it needs to happen. Still keen to know your thinking on this one? Its in the 100 or so pages on this board at various junctures. Why go with Pulis when we are teaching all our kids from 4 years old up to play the technical game? When we lost Speed we were all gutted. From a football point of view we were gutted because we were on an exciting journey. The players - yes the ones charged with delivering the dream - all wanted Verheijen and the set up to carry on. They were desparate to continue what they had started. The FAW bigwigs, the crappy pundits and the Western Mail all slapped them down. Now look at where we are today. Get Verheijen back - give him his figurehead (actually Bellamy is more than a figurehead - I can't think of many pampered players of today's generation with the balls to set up a school in Sierra Leone). Give him his old team back and let get back on the road. As for the youth, they are not stupid - I am confident they will do the right thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 16:50:05 GMT
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Post by toshfan on Oct 8, 2013 17:10:19 GMT
Still keen to know your thinking on this one? Its in the 100 or so pages on this board at various junctures. Why go with Pulis when we are teaching all our kids from 4 years old up to play the technical game? When we lost Speed we were all gutted. From a football point of view we were gutted because we were on an exciting journey. The players - yes the ones charged with delivering the dream - all wanted Verheijen and the set up to carry on. They were desparate to continue what they had started. The FAW bigwigs, the crappy pundits and the Western Mail all slapped them down. Now look at where we are today. Get Verheijen back - give him his figurehead (actually Bellamy is more than a figurehead - I can't think of many pampered players of today's generation with the balls to set up a school in Sierra Leone). Give him his old team back and let get back on the road. As for the youth, they are not stupid - I am confident they will do the right thing. Thanks Baresi, interested in what everyone thinks on Apostle, especially the pro-Toshack posters like yourself. I am certainly not an advocate of Pulis, though I like him on a personal level and recongise that he understood the Toshack years. I am open to persuasion on Bellamy, but still believe that my three choices have a stronger argument behind them. Sausa Hoddle Clough Bonus: Whoever gets appointed next brings Flynn back as the u21 boss. But the FAW needs to be much much firmer on the next appointment of the senior appointment in terms of prioritising youth and the u21s especially. We must never go back to the pre-Toshack years again. My biggest disappointment about where we are is the u21s. |
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Post by abwales on Oct 8, 2013 17:47:28 GMT
#LEGEND
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Post by njdragon on Oct 8, 2013 17:50:29 GMT
One of the most committed players ever for wales, 3rd highest capped player ever after all those serious injuries he's had!
Brilliant!
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 8, 2013 21:20:43 GMT
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Post by squatter1 on Oct 8, 2013 21:37:41 GMT
The thing about considering Bellers as manager is: what do Bale, Ramsey, Allen, Williams, etc think of him? Do we know they like him?
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 8, 2013 21:40:33 GMT
Apparently he is very close to Ramsey, could imagine the players you listed admiring Bellamy to be honest.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 8, 2013 22:50:52 GMT
Craig Bellamy on Wales career:
"I can handle losing, but not being able to lay a hand on someone is hard to take.
I am fed up with it. Defeats demoralise you. I felt we could not compete in a lot of games + that was really difficult to live with.
We have to get out of that routine of being poor old Wales. Even today people are saying we are unlucky. F*** unlucky – excuse my language
We haven’t qualified for major tournaments because the teams have not been good enough + I have not been good enough. It’s a simple fact."
Bellamy believes they can qualify for a major tournament. France 2016 the aim. And even with injuries, no excuses for not beating Macedonia.
Bellamy says this is the best group of Welsh players in the last 50-odd years.
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Post by llannerch on Oct 9, 2013 10:56:48 GMT
See i would like Flynn to have a chance when Coleman goes, maybe Flynn with Bellamy. You've clearly forgotten how Bellamy jerked Flynn around during his caretaker stint |
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Post by llannerch on Oct 9, 2013 11:03:37 GMT
Pulis will only get a premiership job if it is to save a side from the drop. He won't be in the running for any vacant jobs.
Which increases the appeal of the Wales job to him
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Post by zakbaby on Oct 9, 2013 11:53:17 GMT
Pulis for me. Reasons-
1.he is Welsh.faw too old and out of touch to look outside the country.
2.he has bags of premier league experience with the modern premadonna footballer.no other candidate mentioned on this board has any.
3.we all want nice neat football but we fanny around with the ball in dangerous areas and it nearly always costs us.two examples, Ramsey red card v Scotland (gave ball away cheaply and had to foul to get out of it) and winner against Macedonia.would not have happened if we didn't play stupid passes just trying to keep possession in dangerous areas.a good old hoof up the pitch with the pace we got up front does no harm if used now and again.
4. fuck Dutch ray.he was done nothing but stick the knife in at every opportunity.no experience at all.I could sit on the bench with any world class manager, do nothing and claim all the credit if it all goes well.that's what he had done
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Post by welshiron on Oct 9, 2013 11:58:03 GMT
Pulis for me. Reasons- 1.he is Welsh.faw too old and out of touch to look outside the country. 2.he has bags of premier league experience with the modern premadonna footballer.no other candidate mentioned on this board has any. 3.we all want nice neat football but we fanny around with the ball in dangerous areas and it nearly always costs us.two examples, Ramsey red card v Scotland (gave ball away cheaply and had to foul to get out of it) and winner against Macedonia.would not have happened if we didn't play stupid passes just trying to keep possession in dangerous areas.a good old hoof up the pitch with the pace we got up front does no harm if used now and again. 4. fuck Dutch ray.he was done nothing but stick the knife in at every opportunity.no experience at all.I could sit on the bench with any world class manager, do nothing and claim all the credit if it all goes well.that's what he had done Totally agree with all those points However Zakbaby maybe we should consider Noddy as he is wiping the floor with the rest of us on xpert eleven lol |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 12:25:32 GMT
Pulis for me. Reasons- 1.he is Welsh.faw too old and out of touch to look outside the country. 2.he has bags of premier league experience with the modern premadonna footballer.no other candidate mentioned on this board has any. 3.we all want nice neat football but we fanny around with the ball in dangerous areas and it nearly always costs us.two examples, Ramsey red card v Scotland (gave ball away cheaply and had to foul to get out of it) and winner against Macedonia.would not have happened if we didn't play stupid passes just trying to keep possession in dangerous areas.a good old hoof up the pitch with the pace we got up front does no harm if used now and again. 4. fuck Dutch ray.he was done nothing but stick the knife in at every opportunity.no experience at all.I could sit on the bench with any world class manager, do nothing and claim all the credit if it all goes well.that's what he had done If you call 'sticking the knife in' going on record to say: It would be unwise to change all the systems that took 12/18 months to develop that rocketed us up the rankings; Wales has a hugely talented group of young players who can qualify; Predicted (correctly) that we would descend into the abyss as he correctly observed that methodology was dismantled; and state the obvious that the current set up is completely out of their depth; then I would say you are lacking in foresight. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2013 12:28:56 GMT
Malky?
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Post by toshfan on Oct 9, 2013 13:18:07 GMT
Pulis for me. Reasons- 1.he is Welsh.faw too old and out of touch to look outside the country. 2.he has bags of premier league experience with the modern premadonna footballer.no other candidate mentioned on this board has any. 3.we all want nice neat football but we fanny around with the ball in dangerous areas and it nearly always costs us.two examples, Ramsey red card v Scotland (gave ball away cheaply and had to foul to get out of it) and winner against Macedonia.would not have happened if we didn't play stupid passes just trying to keep possession in dangerous areas.a good old hoof up the pitch with the pace we got up front does no harm if used now and again. 4. fuck Dutch ray.he was done nothing but stick the knife in at every opportunity.no experience at all.I could sit on the bench with any world class manager, do nothing and claim all the credit if it all goes well.that's what he had done Totally agree with all those points However Zakbaby maybe we should consider Noddy as he is wiping the floor with the rest of us on xpert eleven lol Why is being Welsh a pre-requisite? As for "too old and out of touch", I would not buy a car from zakbaby. So Hiddink, Trappatoni, Paulo Sausa, Hoddle & Nigel Clough have no experience with the modern footballer? Possession football - totally disagree with you both. There is no choice. It was the only future for Swansea and it is the only future for us (coupled with an obsession on youth). I do not support Dutch Ray either. |
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Post by llannerch on Oct 9, 2013 14:18:35 GMT
I don't particularly hold a candle for Pulis but we'd get the occasional result under him. He'd be a Lawrie Sanchez-N.Ireland type appointment
As for us returning to the stone ages under him as someone says somewhere...he wouldn't have a technical role as that is Osian Roberts' role and or isn't answerable to the national manager so it wouldn't be the retrograde step you might think
Plus Pulis might be criticised for being reductive and unsophisticated in his style but he is also pragmatic. Would he really not make use of the likes of Allen, Ramsey, Vaughan and full backs like Taylor and Matthews?
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 9, 2013 14:40:52 GMT
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