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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Sept 4, 2023 10:20:00 GMT
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Post by dai on Sept 4, 2023 10:22:42 GMT
Fourth red? That's a bad stat to have, and ref's will take note.
Page mentioned it's his job is to now bring through the 'kids'. Maybe time for someone like Savage to be given a chance.
Still don't understand why Morrell has been called up to this camp, complete waste of his and ours' time.
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Post by jimbo82 on Sept 4, 2023 10:54:52 GMT
Some good positive feedback about Regan Poole in that article at least
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 4, 2023 21:21:40 GMT
Still don't understand why Morrell has been called up to this camp, complete waste of his and ours' time. This 100 times, it's not like he's a Gareth Bale type that's good to have around either, it's just a really dumb move from Page, a guy who a year ago I backed but the ratio of dumb stuff that he's done since then has left me feeling like we're pretty helpless. I'm still not over that Armenia game.
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Post by dai on Sept 4, 2023 22:03:22 GMT
Still don't understand why Morrell has been called up to this camp, complete waste of his and ours' time. This 100 times, it's not like he's a Gareth Bale type that's good to have around either, it's just a really dumb move from Page, a guy who a year ago I backed but the ratio of dumb stuff that he's done since then has left me feeling like we're pretty helpless. I'm still not over that Armenia game. Morrell still has a part to play in our short term future, however it makes no sense at all to select him purely for the friendly. This is the time to give youngsters and fringe players a chance. Page mentioned in a recent interview that part of his job now is to bring through the 'kids', yet he doesn't actually bloody do it! Just more, and more bullsh*t. It's embarrassing to hear your manager say and promise so much, yet deliver the complete opposite.
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Post by jimexotic on Sept 4, 2023 22:38:53 GMT
Calling up a player that can't play is borderline insanity
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Post by talyfan on Sept 5, 2023 6:07:09 GMT
Calling up a player that can't play is borderline insanity Calling up two then must be bordering being lobotomized then!
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Post by iot on Sept 5, 2023 7:59:04 GMT
This 100 times, it's not like he's a Gareth Bale type that's good to have around either, it's just a really dumb move from Page, a guy who a year ago I backed but the ratio of dumb stuff that he's done since then has left me feeling like we're pretty helpless. I'm still not over that Armenia game. Morrell still has a part to play in our short term future, however it makes no sense at all to select him purely for the friendly. This is the time to give youngsters and fringe players a chance. Page mentioned in a recent interview that part of his job now is to bring through the 'kids', yet he doesn't actually bloody do it! Just more, and more bullsh*t. It's embarrassing to hear your manager say and promise so much, yet deliver the complete opposite. Yeah I agree to an extent, and Page's comments aren't really backed up by the selection decisions. Although I do see the merit in giving these youngsters (Savage, Harris, Colwill) a real shot at the u21 campaign rather than having a bit part role with the seniors, and then bring them through to the seniors together once we qualify or fall short. But if that's the case, he should say it. I would say it would be much better to use the friendly to give a shot to whoever's likely to start alongside Ampadu in Latvia, but I suspect this means we're going to go with a 523 formation with Ampadu and Ramsey in the middle.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Sept 5, 2023 8:13:55 GMT
Calling up a player that can't play is borderline insanity Calling up two then must be bordering being lobotomized then! Calling Keiffer in particular was absolutely the right thing to do. We desperately need him in the next couple of months and he's likely to get very little club football. 90 minutes against South Korea is exactly what he / we need. Joe less so but if we see him as playing a part in the in the Oct and Nov games then some game time with Wales may help although I doubt many of the first will play against S Korea. I doubt either will travel to Riga.
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Post by njdragon on Sept 5, 2023 8:33:40 GMT
Colwill is training with the seniors along with Charlie Crew (leeds midfielder) according to Dragonsoccer
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Post by njdragon on Sept 7, 2023 7:13:28 GMT
After all the comments on page saying he’d rather not play this match do people see why he would now have included morrell and moore?
Clearly they will start and probably play full 90 in what is an exhibition match. Only 6 subs so they are needed and I imagine he will rotate players like Sheenan around this core group.
It’s a difficult balance and us fans are turning up tonight to see wales. We don’t want to see a young untested side get hammered and neither do we want our best players getting injured.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 7, 2023 8:47:56 GMT
After all the comments on page saying he’d rather not play this match do people see why he would now have included morrell and moore? Clearly they will start and probably play full 90 in what is an exhibition match. Only 6 subs so they are needed and I imagine he will rotate players like Sheenan around this core group. It’s a difficult balance and us fans are turning up tonight to see wales. We don’t want to see a young untested side get hammered and neither do we want our best players getting injured. It's a fair point generally, although I still think including Moore was a bad move I'd like to see Bradshaw given a start instead of Moore, so that would be a shame for Bradshaw's minutes to get blocked. If Bradshaw got injured against Korea it wouldn't be disastrous either, he's likely be on the bench against Latvia and maybe come on. But if he were injured I'd imagine Cullen would come on instead of him It makes sense to include Morrell and play Morrell alongside JJ/Sheehan in order to protect Ampadu, but doesn't need to be done in Moore's case
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Post by njdragon on Sept 7, 2023 8:54:06 GMT
After all the comments on page saying he’d rather not play this match do people see why he would now have included morrell and moore? Clearly they will start and probably play full 90 in what is an exhibition match. Only 6 subs so they are needed and I imagine he will rotate players like Sheenan around this core group. It’s a difficult balance and us fans are turning up tonight to see wales. We don’t want to see a young untested side get hammered and neither do we want our best players getting injured. It's a fair point generally, although I still think including Moore was a bad move I'd like to see Bradshaw given a start instead of Moore, so that would be a shame for Bradshaw's minutes to get blocked. If Bradshaw got injured against Korea it wouldn't be disastrous either, he's likely be on the bench against Latvia and maybe come on. But if he were injured I'd imagine Cullen would come on instead of him It makes sense to include Morrell and play Morrell alongside JJ/Sheehan in order to protect Ampadu, but doesn't need to be done in Moore's case Yes true, i wonder if they have a contract where we must play a certain amount of top players and as moore is premiership perhaps he falls into that category? Maybe there's method in the madness
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Sept 19, 2023 23:10:03 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 20, 2023 9:06:18 GMT
Portsmouth top of the league. Regan Poole you'd definitely expect to be starting for them in the Championship if they went up. I wonder though if they'd end up replacing Morrell if they went up a level. He's not yet been able to crack the Championship - perhaps it's his time with Pompey
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Sept 22, 2023 8:02:34 GMT
Portsmouth top of the league. Regan Poole you'd definitely expect to be starting for them in the Championship if they went up. I wonder though if they'd end up replacing Morrell if they went up a level. He's not yet been able to crack the Championship - perhaps it's his time with Pompey Joe is in the last year of his contract so it will be interesting to see how things develop as the season progresses.
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Sept 24, 2023 17:46:44 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 5, 2023 10:57:11 GMT
I love the fact that when Morrell was called up to play in the friendly in the last camp despite him being suspended for the qualifier, social media exploded about the fact that he shouldn’t be called up unless he can play both games, yet now he hasn’t been selected for the friendly because he’s still suspended for the qualifier, other people are critical of that haha
Just shows that whatever happens, not everyone will be happy so as a manager you’ve just got to make your own decisions and go with them.
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Post by njdragon on Oct 5, 2023 13:12:37 GMT
I love the fact that when Morrell was called up to play in the friendly in the last camp despite him being suspended for the qualifier, social media exploded about the fact that he shouldn’t be called up unless he can play both games, yet now he hasn’t been selected for the friendly because he’s still suspended for the qualifier, other people are critical of that haha Just shows that whatever happens, not everyone will be happy so as a manager you’ve just got to make your own decisions and go with them. very true, its hard to argue that page got the last camp wrong. He managed the 2 games well were we saw james come through alongside morrell and ampadu so he had experience alongside him. Morrell was a useful body for the korea match which page didnt want to play.
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Post by surge on Oct 5, 2023 13:42:06 GMT
Discussion in work and two-three Welsh football fans bemused by Page selecting Morrell/selecting him for the last camp.
One of them thought Ben Cabango or Rubin Colwill could play at base of midfield instead mind so not sure how much weight I give to their opinions.
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Post by dai on Oct 5, 2023 13:45:54 GMT
I love the fact that when Morrell was called up to play in the friendly in the last camp despite him being suspended for the qualifier, social media exploded about the fact that he shouldn’t be called up unless he can play both games, yet now he hasn’t been selected for the friendly because he’s still suspended for the qualifier, other people are critical of that haha Just shows that whatever happens, not everyone will be happy so as a manager you’ve just got to make your own decisions and go with them. Myself and others wrongly thought he was available for Croatia, but he isn't. Dropping a player we've relied heavily on for 2 years for an important qualifier would have been odd. I'm glad he's not been selected for the friendly, and would have preferred to seen alternatives for the previous friendly too.
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 5, 2023 15:03:14 GMT
I love the fact that when Morrell was called up to play in the friendly in the last camp despite him being suspended for the qualifier, social media exploded about the fact that he shouldn’t be called up unless he can play both games, yet now he hasn’t been selected for the friendly because he’s still suspended for the qualifier, other people are critical of that haha Just shows that whatever happens, not everyone will be happy so as a manager you’ve just got to make your own decisions and go with them. Myself and others wrongly thought he was available for Croatia, but he isn't. Dropping a player we've relied heavily on for 2 years for an important qualifier would have been odd. I'm glad he's not been selected for the friendly, and would have preferred to seen alternatives for the previous friendly too. Not speaking about you specifically Dai but I wonder how many of the ones on social media actually stopped to check if he was suspended before spouting off of Twitter or whatever? This is the problem with social media, people don’t think before they post
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Post by jimexotic on Oct 5, 2023 23:00:02 GMT
Discussion in work and two-three Welsh football fans bemused by Page selecting Morrell/selecting him for the last camp. One of them thought Ben Cabango or Rubin Colwill could play at base of midfield instead mind so not sure how much weight I give to their opinions. Can you imagine Cabango in midfield, crikey.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 7, 2023 10:51:30 GMT
I love the fact that when Morrell was called up to play in the friendly in the last camp despite him being suspended for the qualifier, social media exploded about the fact that he shouldn’t be called up unless he can play both games, yet now he hasn’t been selected for the friendly because he’s still suspended for the qualifier, other people are critical of that haha Just shows that whatever happens, not everyone will be happy so as a manager you’ve just got to make your own decisions and go with them. Myself and others wrongly thought he was available for Croatia, but he isn't. Dropping a player we've relied heavily on for 2 years for an important qualifier would have been odd. I'm glad he's not been selected for the friendly, and would have preferred to seen alternatives for the previous friendly too. I think it was the right move for the last camp as we needed to avoid a loss and we needed to see if JJ was up to starting. Because we did that we've now discovered JJ is ready to start games, which makes it a good decision imo
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Oct 16, 2023 8:42:03 GMT
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Post by underwood on Oct 16, 2023 10:07:50 GMT
Morrell, Levitt & Smith have all been superseded.
We have to resist any circumstance whereby Ampadu is forced back into defence & thankfully we now have more centre-back options in Poole & Low.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Oct 16, 2023 14:01:42 GMT
Morrell will still be an important squad player going forwards. James is now ahead of him in the pecking order for sure, but suspensions and injuries mean that we will very probably need to call on Morrell in future. So, to hear he's been performing well for Portsmouth is encouraging.
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Post by garynysmon on Oct 16, 2023 14:03:53 GMT
Morrell, Levitt & Smith have all been superseded. We have to resist any circumstance whereby Ampadu is forced back into defence & thankfully we now have more centre-back options in Poole & Low. I still harbour hopes for Levitt, but I will consider it a failure or that something has gone wrong if Morrell gets regular game time going forward.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Oct 16, 2023 14:10:12 GMT
I think that's a bit harsh. He's 26, so approaching his prime. Yes, we could do with him playing at a higher level, and he may well be next season. But looking at his performances in the round in a Cymru shirt I think he's proven himself a decent option. Hopefully the emergence of Jordan James will give him the motivation to step up a level.
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Post by hooky on Oct 16, 2023 14:23:25 GMT
You said it - Morrell is approaching his prime. Its as good as he's ever going to get. Even when he was playing well he was the weak link that the top tier nations always exploited. He gave everything, we needed him in the past but absent an injury crisis we need to move on from what is essentially a third division player at the peak of his career. Loyalty is one thing but a meritocracy works far better at the elite level of sport!
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