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Post by idiot on Jul 22, 2011 1:53:37 GMT
when was the last time they had a player in the welsh squad???  |
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Post by welshorp on Jul 22, 2011 7:08:56 GMT
God knows but hopefully for a long time yet I we are serious about getting better
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Post by llannerch on Jul 22, 2011 12:11:47 GMT
In the current climate, that could be deemed a troll....let's just call it a quiz question. And in the interests of fairness, shall we open it up to:
When was the last time Merthyr, Wrexham, Colwyn Bay, [insert club here] had a player in a Welsh squad?
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 22, 2011 12:20:58 GMT
Wrexham- May 2010- Neil Taylor.
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Post by raptor on Jul 22, 2011 15:43:05 GMT
when was the last time they had a player in the welsh squad??? In the full Welsh squad it would have been Steve Lowndes or Nigel Vaughan back in the 1980's. Prior to that we were shite, after that we've also been shite. Wrexham have had a fair few in this time I would imagine, and let's hope they continue to produce internationals. Wrexham are the only pro outfit in North Wales and it would be a crying shame to see them go through and get liquidated. Hopefully a proper sugar daddy with the best of intentions comes to the rescue as a supporter trust led consortium will not be able to provide a competitive budget for more than a season before throwing in the towel, see Stockport County. Why don't we produce internationals? I think it's generally attributed to being a poor club (money-wise)on Cardiff's doorstep. Newport is adjoined to Cardiff. Cardiff have developed a few Newport/Gwent lads as previously discussed. If it's a Wrexham/Newport thing idiot then lets put this into perspective. Newport are a small club with a small infrastructure with a small fan base who play in the Conference. Wrexham may desperately aspire to be all these things by this time next season. My hopes are though that Wrexham do well and get back to being a side that yo yos between the Championship and League One. Lets hope both of us are battling it out for promotion to the league come May 2012. Nice trolling idiot, lol. |
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Post by rhys on Jul 22, 2011 16:56:36 GMT
What's with the constant Cewnty bashing on here as of late?
Even as a Cardiff fan, I want them to do well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 23:30:15 GMT
What's with the constant Cewnty bashing on here as of late? Even as a Cardiff fan, I want them to do well. Yeah, I was wondering that myself, good question Rhys lol! |
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 23, 2011 14:52:01 GMT
have colwyn bay EVER had a player in the welsh squad!?
i would be shocked if they had
where's the highest they've ever been in the english structure?
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Post by rhys on Sept 20, 2011 23:24:09 GMT
Was just watching Sgorio for the first time in ages and noticed a couple of new stands. Anyone have any pictures? Looks like a new little ground now.
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Post by raptor on Sept 21, 2011 13:46:18 GMT
They are semi permanent stands. In other words they go up at the start of the season and come down ready for the athletics at the end of the season.
They do enclose the playing area somewhat and provide a very good view of the game. Big minus is that they are not covered.
It's decent ground now. The running track is there but there is a good view on all sides. Somerton Park used to have the speedway track there so no difference.
I have heard the Welsh FA work will start there next March which includes a state of the art pitch for Newport County which the Welsh FA will use for matches.
Begs the question what will the FA do about athletics types lauching hammers and discus into the new pitch?
Well I've heard that an athletics facility is being built as part of a new high school in Newport and that the athletics will move out.
Mega news if true and I'll personally rip up that running track.
Also heard some very encouraging news re development of the ground, stands etc once the athletics have been turfed out!
Don't expect rapid development more a 10 year project.
Will be a great venue for permanent u21 fixtures at Newport.
Ace! I live only 10 minutes away by car.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 21, 2011 14:25:38 GMT
As glad as I am to see more and better football facilities in Wales, the idea that it should be a permanent home for the u21s is a terrible one. North Wales is starved enough of international fixtures as it is.
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Post by raptor on Sept 21, 2011 14:41:46 GMT
As glad as I am to see more and better football facilities in Wales, the idea that it should be a permanent home for the u21s is a terrible one. North Wales is starved enough of international fixtures as it is. I can understand your annoyance, but if it has to be anywhere it might as well be near me and to County's benefit. At least it isn't in Cardiff or Swansea, those places already have great facilities and international matches. North Wales is starved but have had a fair few senior internationals in the past, Newport has always been poor relations- so a bit of catching up to do in all fairness. |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 21, 2011 15:02:01 GMT
How far is Newport from Cardiff by train though raptor? 20 minutes? 25?!
If things keep going the way they are, kids in north Wales will only support the Merseyside and Manchester teams and think Welsh football has nothing to do with them. Its a totally depressing state of affairs.
Don't be surprised if in about ten years time a promising Gog player decides he wants to play for England through his Saes Granny instead...
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Post by rhys on Sept 21, 2011 16:33:08 GMT
Maybe if your club pulled it's finger out that wouldn't happen?
Good news though Raptor. It looked cracking on Sgorio.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 21, 2011 17:49:29 GMT
North Wales is starved but have had a fair few senior internationals in the past, Newport has always been poor relations- so a bit of catching up to do in all fairness.
Yes and the North Wales area also has had many world class past/ present & hopefully future Welsh internationals,but this is typical of the policies of the FAW, WRU, WAG & BBC Wales adopt to marginalise & forget us gods from the north.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 21, 2011 21:46:54 GMT
I'm glad Newports facilities are improving and they should host some u21 games there. But you could hardly say its a major hardship for people in and around Newport to get to Cardiff for games could you?! Bit different if you live in Rhyl or Bangor.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 21, 2011 22:12:10 GMT
I'm glad Newports facilities are improving and they should host some u21 games there. But you could hardly say its a major hardship for people in and around Newport to get to Cardiff for games could you?! Bit different if you live in Rhyl or Bangor.
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Post by matty on Sept 22, 2011 8:56:55 GMT
I'm glad Newports facilities are improving and they should host some u21 games there. But you could hardly say its a major hardship for people in and around Newport to get to Cardiff for games could you?! Bit different if you live in Rhyl or Bangor. Totally agree. I live half hour from Cardiff, so I am lucky, but i appreciate how much football we get down south. Any chance the FAW has to take football to north wales should be taken. |
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Post by rhys on Sept 22, 2011 17:16:17 GMT
The next two Under 21 games are in North Wales. First team games can't be taken up north due to the stadia. I'd love to see a return to the racecourse but not going to happen until Wrexham get the ground up to international standard. Until that happens, stop moaning.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 22, 2011 20:23:35 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 22, 2011 20:55:25 GMT
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Post by raptor on Sept 22, 2011 22:06:56 GMT
I'm glad Newports facilities are improving and they should host some u21 games there. But you could hardly say its a major hardship for people in and around Newport to get to Cardiff for games could you?! Bit different if you live in Rhyl or Bangor. I accept your point that games should be equally divided. However, when Wales were beating Spain 3-0 did you pause and think, ''hang on, why isn't Newport getting games, perhaps this thriller ought to have been there''. No you didn't, you would have lapped up the game just as I would've if it were at Somerton Park. The facility isn't built yet, rumours of ground expansion are just rumours. Financial meltdown across the globe is a real threat. However if Newport Stadium gets redeveloped and we get all/most u21 games then my guilt of ease of access to these games at the expense of North Wales will be tempered by the fact we got fuck all in the past from anyone. We went bankrupt and no one gave a fuck. We got forced into exile and no gave a fuck. Some even tried to force it! We've watched 23 years of tripe and no one gives a fuck. As much as I understand it is fair to put games in all corners of Wales (and the middle), I really don't give a fuck! |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 22, 2011 22:45:09 GMT
Fantastic argument raptor. The FAW should play all Wales matches- seniors, u21, womens u17s, the lot - in Newport just to please you.
How far is Newport from Cardiff? 12 miles? 13?!
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Post by saints19 on Sept 23, 2011 1:14:38 GMT
Cardiff gets consistently higher attendances for Wales games than anywhere else, be those games held at the Millenium Stadium or the Cardiff City Stadium. I think all senior internationals should be held in Cardiff. You don't see England fans moaning that all their games are played in Wembley or Scotland fans that their games are played in Hampden. Even Northern Ireland, with its community divisions, play all their games at Windsor Park, a place associated with Linfield and unionism.
The Racecourse is the only ground in North Wales close to meeting criteria for senior internationals, but isn't there some kind of issue with facilities which don't match UEFA criteria? As far as under-21 games are concerned, only Belle Vue would additionally be a decent venue. And under-21 games do move around a fair bit - only fair that Newport gets its crack at it.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 23, 2011 7:46:21 GMT
You don't see England fans moaning that all their games are played in Wembley
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Yes, you do. I know quite a few northern English fans who don't give a shit about Ingurland and see it as a London thing. Depressingly , we're heading for a similar situation in Wales if the lack of games in the north isn't addressed.
Even small countries like Croatia move their games around the country and they have an outstanding home record. Wales should look to emulate that.
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Post by stu on Sept 23, 2011 10:20:11 GMT
Yeah they English whinge about it all the time. Especially with the move to Fri/Tues games. But since The FA now have a huge mortgage to pay then there is zero chance of that happening.
In Wales though we don't have that situation. In fact most of our clubs don't even own their stadiums or training facilities.
Despite living near Swansea I've no problem if the CCS had all the senior games. But the fact that we get the odd one or two down here and at the Scarlets is great.
It would be good for the north if they were to have the odd senior friendly if possible. At the expense of the Scarlets stadium since that's only about 9 miles from Swansea.
It'd be good if Wrexham/Newport/Llanelli (in order of preference) could alternate the youth and womens games. Give the locals a chance to see a Wales team play and give the teams a chance toplay at a decent ground.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 23, 2011 10:25:38 GMT
Also, it would be great if they could host a few u21 games at Bangor's new stadium. You've really got to feel for Wales football fans in the north west. I don't know whether their stadium will meet the requirements but I hope it does.
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Post by matty on Sept 23, 2011 11:42:57 GMT
The next two Under 21 games are in North Wales. First team games can't be taken up north due to the stadia. I'd love to see a return to the racecourse but not going to happen until Wrexham get the ground up to international standard. Until that happens, stop moaning. It's hardly football fans from North Wales' fault that they can't host senior games. The FAW are putting money into development, but they've chosen South Wales so the fans from up north do have a valid argument. On the other side of the argument, when Wales have played at the Racecourse in recent years the crowds haven't exactly been encouraging - it doesn't seem that the fans are desperate for international football anyway. The first game in years at the Racecourse was Canada wasn't it? The game Paul Parry scored in anyway. I know Canada, New Zealand etc were hardly big names, but I wish the fans had come out in force to show how much international football was missed. I was at the Norway and Liechtenstein games and I felt the same. |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 23, 2011 14:03:00 GMT
Actually matty I think there were over 8000 for the Leichtenstein game, which was over twice the size of crowd in Llanelli for the Luxembourg game last year.
Also over 8000 for the game vs Norway which is much better than the 6000 that came to the game vs Australia (about as attractive opponents as Norway) in Cardiff a few weeks back.
Most of the u21 attendences have been very good at the Racecourse too.
If we could turn the Racecourse into a 16-18,000 capacity venue, with the same ticket prices that the FAW currently charge I'm convinced we'd pack it out for competitive games.
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Post by matty on Sept 23, 2011 14:27:21 GMT
Actually matty I think there were over 8000 for the Leichtenstein game, which was over twice the size of crowd in Llanelli for the Luxembourg game last year. Also over 8000 for the game vs Norway which is much better than the 6000 that came to the game vs Australia (about as attractive opponents as Norway) in Cardiff a few weeks back. Most of the u21 attendences have been very good at the Racecourse too. If we could turn the Racecourse into a 16-18,000 capacity venue, with the same ticket prices that the FAW currently charge I'm convinced we'd pack it out for competitive games. You're not comparing like for like though. Todays attendances are poor, but at the time of the Norway and Liechtenstein game they were better. I always remember the Canada game though, as one where we were getting decent attendances at the time in Cardiff (just checked it was 2004), and Wrexham finally get a game - big news that North Wales had international football again, only to be disappointed by the turn out. Maybe I'm wrong, it was a long time ago but it sticks in my mind. |
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