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Post by flynnfan on Sept 23, 2011 17:11:27 GMT
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Post by saints19 on Sept 23, 2011 17:11:52 GMT
You don't see England fans moaning that all their games are played in Wembley ---------- Yes, you do. I know quite a few northern English fans who don't give a shit about Ingurland and see it as a London thing. Depressingly , we're heading for a similar situation in Wales if the lack of games in the north isn't addressed. Even small countries like Croatia move their games around the country and they have an outstanding home record. Wales should look to emulate that. A few anecdotal cases don't prove a point, especially when they are untestable. If we had literally any groundswell of people moaning on 606 or on Phil McNulty's England blog or some other website I'd accept your point but the truth is only a tiny minority of fans care where games are played. If they're really going to stop supporting their country because of geography we can do without that handful of fans. By the way, just because Croatia have a great home record and move games around, it doesn't mean we would achieve the same results by copying them. |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 23, 2011 17:15:55 GMT
By the way, just because Croatia have a great home record and move games around, it doesn't mean we would achieve the same results by copying them.
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Check our excellent home record when we used to have competitive games in Cardiff, Wrexham and Swansea in the 70s and 80s though.
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Post by saints19 on Sept 23, 2011 17:22:22 GMT
Actually matty I think there were over 8000 for the Leichtenstein game, which was over twice the size of crowd in Llanelli for the Luxembourg game last year. Also over 8000 for the game vs Norway which is much better than the 6000 that came to the game vs Australia (about as attractive opponents as Norway) in Cardiff a few weeks back. Most of the u21 attendences have been very good at the Racecourse too. If we could turn the Racecourse into a 16-18,000 capacity venue, with the same ticket prices that the FAW currently charge I'm convinced we'd pack it out for competitive games. The Liechtenstein game you mention was boosted by the presence of two Wrexham players in the squad, Steve Evans and Mark Jones. Also at the time we were performing better than we are now, so taking a recent friendly against Australia (our rock bottom) as a comparison is not relevant. Around the same time as that Liechtenstein game we played Paraguay in Cardiff (better, but not necessarily more attractive due to still being unknowns to most armchair fans) opposition, and attracted well over 10,000 as I recall. Cannot check the precise attendance, because the FAW website links the match report to a rugby game between Gloucester and Wales that Wales apparently won 16-10. But I recall it was at least 13,000. Perhaps someone knows of a better source than the FAW website to check that! |
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Post by saints19 on Sept 23, 2011 17:25:16 GMT
By the way, just because Croatia have a great home record and move games around, it doesn't mean we would achieve the same results by copying them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check our excellent home record when we used to have competitive games in Cardiff, Wrexham and Swansea in the 70s and 80s though. Different era. We were relatively better compared to the rest of Europe back then (there were no pesky former Soviet teams too) hence why we started 27th in the rankings and have since continued to slide all the way down to 117th. There's no reason to believe if we simply changed our home venues we'd get improved results in the modern era. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 23, 2011 17:53:17 GMT
Also, it would be great if they could host a few u21 games at Bangor's new stadium. You've really got to feel for Wales football fans in the north west. I don't know whether their stadium will meet the requirements but I hope it does. Think it does ffwtbol.co.uk/2011/07/30/bangor-citys-new-stadium-at-nantporth/It'd be good if Wrexham/Newport/Llanelli (in order of preference) could alternate the youth and womens games. Give the locals a chance to see a Wales team play and give the teams a chance toplay at a decent ground. Are u serious the north should not be fobbed off with this anyway women should stick to doing some housework, or if they want t participate in sport play netball,tennis etc ;D ;D ;D Why are we playing matches at a rugby stadium? & what players as the Newport area contributed to the national team recently? is it that prima -donna Paul Parry? They should invest the funding at Wrexham & Senior matches shared between either Wrexham,Swansea & Cardiff. I don't think anyone would be troubled by travelling be it either north or south but the transport network is truly awful it's on par with a third world country it;s up to them arsembly members to do something about it. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 23, 2011 18:24:45 GMT
I agree if the transport infrastructure was better attendances are likely to increase. It costs a lot to travel these days. Probably cost a lot more if the FAW organised the travel.  |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 23, 2011 20:20:25 GMT
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 23, 2011 20:54:54 GMT
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 23, 2011 21:31:02 GMT
Still took bloody ages in those days to travel south/north or north/south.
Did the border line so many times in the past.
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Post by raptor on Sept 23, 2011 23:48:58 GMT
Fantastic argument raptor. The FAW should play all Wales matches- seniors, u21, womens u17s, the lot - in Newport just to please you. How far is Newport from Cardiff? 12 miles? 13?! I'm not arguing really. As the post implies, I don't really care. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 28, 2011 20:27:40 GMT
Is this an opportunity for a welsh manager?
Any County fan in the know?
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 28, 2011 21:01:46 GMT
Is this an opportunity for a welsh manager?
You must be joking,they only employ english people at Newport Conty
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 28, 2011 23:10:25 GMT
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 9:35:23 GMT
Is this an opportunity for a welsh manager? You must be joking,they only employ english people at Newport Conty ;D ;D ;D Where was it you live again, London? Who is it you support again, Crystal Palace? Is your wife/boyfriend English too? Glass houses anyone? |
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 9:40:18 GMT
Inevitable that Hudson was sacked, we are dire.
Personally, I'd prefer it if he was given more time to turn things around though.
Taffs that on fans wishlists are a Flynn/Hartson combo.
I think that is very unlikely, Flynn is past it when it comes to club management, and we just had a rookie in Hudson, so no thanks to Hartson, assistant maybe.
Just a case of watch this space.
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 9:42:28 GMT
Is this an opportunity for a welsh manager? Any County fan in the know? Just going by some whispers I'd say Justin Edinburgh or Liam Daish. I got no real insider knowledge to be honest. Edinburgh also mentioned in Wrexham rumour circles, I wonder if it comes down to a tug o war there! |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 29, 2011 12:10:25 GMT
Inevitable that Hudson was sacked, we are dire. Personally, I'd prefer it if he was given more time to turn things around though. Taffs that on fans wishlists are a Flynn/Hartson combo. I think that is very unlikely, Flynn is past it when it comes to club management, and we just had a rookie in Hudson, so no thanks to Hartson, assistant maybe. Just a case of watch this space.[/quote. Hartson would be less of a gamble than Hudson. |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 29, 2011 12:13:49 GMT
Wonder if Hartson would even take the job though. He seems to be well busy with the media work and does he need the stress et theis point with his health issues?
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 12:20:02 GMT
Wonder if Hartson would even take the job though. He seems to be well busy with the media work and does he need the stress et theis point with his health issues? Hartson has applied previously, even coached the forwards for nothing, I believe he would walk to Newport for an interview. |
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 12:20:48 GMT
Andy Legg mentioned on BBC Wales website along with Newportonian Nathan Blake (another rookie).
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Post by llannerch on Sept 29, 2011 12:25:03 GMT
Legg came to my mind. Or, elsewhere from the WPL, Nev Powell?
Jason Perry was trotting out the old 'need to employ someone who knows that league' line. A good coach is a good coach.
What always stinks in these situations is that the Board who appointed him are not accountable at all. If he was the right man 5 months ago, what's changed? Except maybe he wasn't the right man after all and the recruitment was wrong.....?
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 12:27:28 GMT
Legg came to my mind. Or, elsewhere from the WPL, Nev Powell? Jason Perry was trotting out the old 'need to employ someone who knows that league' line. A good coach is a good coach. What always stinks in these situations is that the Board who appointed him are not accountable at all. If he was the right man 5 months ago, what's changed? Except maybe he wasn't the right man after all and the recruitment was wrong.....? Sold a dud possibly, 'Arry Redknapp bigged him up massively and also stated in the press he would be lending Hudson a couple of Spurs professionals. Never happened of course. |
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Post by llannerch on Sept 29, 2011 12:29:24 GMT
'Onest 'Arry welching on a deal? Cewnty won't be the last to fall for that wide boy
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 29, 2011 12:31:08 GMT
County and Wrexham could probably do a lot, lot worse then look at managers who've done well in the WPL like Legg and Neville Powell. One of them could go on to achieve what Nigel Adkins has, and wouldn't it be great if that was with a Welsh club?
It would be fantastic to see the WPL used as part of a system whereby Welsh coaches can prove their credentials and climb the ladder. It would be great to see the WPL produce a future Wales manager.
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Post by llannerch on Sept 29, 2011 12:43:58 GMT
You're not suggesting Cewnty are at a higher rung than WPL teams are you? That sort of thing can cause sparks to fly round these parts. |
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 13:02:48 GMT
You're not suggesting Cewnty are at a higher rung than WPL teams are you? That sort of thing can cause sparks to fly round these parts. OMG. For everyone's information it is obvious that County are not higher than the WPL. Wrexham are higher of course! |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 29, 2011 13:04:53 GMT
Well, if you look specifically at Legg and Powell, they are currently the managers at part time football clubs and Newport county are now fully professional, so that alone suggets it would be a step up on the ladder.
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Post by raptor on Sept 29, 2011 13:05:11 GMT
County and Wrexham could probably do a lot, lot worse then look at managers who've done well in the WPL like Legg and Neville Powell. One of them could go on to achieve what Nigel Adkins has, and wouldn't it be great if that was with a Welsh club? It would be fantastic to see the WPL used as part of a system whereby Welsh coaches can prove their credentials and climb the ladder. It would be great to see the WPL produce a future Wales manager. The thing is with Legg why would he want to take a step down and join a conference outfit, doesn't make sense! |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 29, 2011 13:09:46 GMT
I think there's some confusion here raptor in regard to what I was arguing a while back about Merthyr town. I've never said that the WPL is a higher standard then the conference.
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