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Post by hooky on Nov 12, 2020 19:42:36 GMT
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Post by cadno on Nov 12, 2020 20:39:21 GMT
Fair enough, I find he's far better with interviews etc! |
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Post by dai on Nov 12, 2020 22:23:09 GMT
Anyone else already more impressed with the way Robert Page speaks with the media compared to Mr Giggs? RG is still early into his managment career and he has improved on that front tbf  Yes. I was quite surprised how well he spoke tonight. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 15, 2020 20:24:52 GMT
I’m going to credit Page with the system change when it happened. Game changer.
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Post by dai on Nov 15, 2020 20:31:45 GMT
I’m going to credit Page with the system change when it happened. Game changer. Yeah it was. Interesting question, would Giggs have done the same? Judging by his management style, I would say no. |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Nov 15, 2020 21:05:29 GMT
I’m going to credit Page with the system change when it happened. Game changer. Yeah it was. Interesting question, would Giggs have done the same? Judging by his management style, I would say no. I think he would have done tbh. Quite a few times Giggsy’s in game management has saved the day imo, notably substitutions. |
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Post by dai on Nov 15, 2020 21:07:25 GMT
Yeah it was. Interesting question, would Giggs have done the same? Judging by his management style, I would say no. I think he would have done tbh. Quite a few times Giggsy’s in game management has saved the day imo, notably substitutions. He's never changed formation though.....I don't think? |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Nov 15, 2020 21:10:39 GMT
I think he would have done tbh. Quite a few times Giggsy’s in game management has saved the day imo, notably substitutions. He's never changed formation though.....I don't think? Nah off the top of my head tbf, but Helen Keller could have seen that we needed to change it today- and I don’t think she’s done her FAW badges just yet. |
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Post by dai on Nov 15, 2020 23:10:25 GMT
If we beat Finland, does he stand a chance in getting the job?
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 16, 2020 12:12:33 GMT
He's never changed formation though.....I don't think? Nah off the top of my head tbf, but Helen Keller could have seen that we needed to change it today- and I don’t think she’s done her FAW badges just yet. I noticed that Albert was wearing a set of earphones last night. I assumed that he was receiving instructions from Salford. Maybe Giggs was watching the half-time analysis on Sky and thought that was a good idea! |
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Post by njdragon on Nov 16, 2020 12:18:27 GMT
If we beat Finland, does he stand a chance in getting the job? No because this isn't his team or tactics. Giggs is still the main man here they are just keeping him out of the limelight. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 18, 2020 19:32:08 GMT
Reiterating what has been said already, the man talks well in the top role. When Page speaks, I listen.
...and signs off with diolch when speaking to S4C!
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Post by iot on Nov 18, 2020 19:40:45 GMT
Yep, definitely a good communicator. But his limited club managerial career is uninspiring and we haven't played any good football under him yet. That's what I'm waiting for
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Post by dai on Nov 18, 2020 19:46:09 GMT
Reiterating what has been said already, the man talks well in the top role. When Page speaks, I listen. ...and signs off with diolch when speaking to S4C!It's a very small gesture, but means so much. Just a shame Giggs and some players don't do the same. |
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Post by iot on Nov 18, 2020 23:05:15 GMT
Impressed with him tonight. In the last game he picked a fans' team and it didn't quite work. This time, he made a couple of unpopular decisions and got them spot on, showing he knows what he's doing far better than us!
We were also tactically spot on from the beginning with our pressing game. We were far more fluid too,but that's probably more to do with the sending off.
I thought the half time change was brave and spot on too and really showed intent! If Giggs doesn't return, I'd feel much more comfortable with Page leading us in the WC campaign after tonight's performance.
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Post by alarch on Nov 18, 2020 23:54:20 GMT
Impressed with him tonight. In the last game he picked a fans' team and it didn't quite work. This time, he made a couple of unpopular decisions and got them spot on, showing he knows what he's doing far better than us! We were also tactically spot on from the beginning with our pressing game. We were far more fluid too,but that's probably more to do with the sending off. I thought the half time change was brave and spot on too and really showed intent! If Giggs doesn't return, I'd feel much more comfortable with Page leading us in the WC campaign after tonight's performance. I agree with most of your observations, but I'm not so sure bringing on Moore so early was such a smart move. Watching the MOTD highlights - Finland had two very good chances after getting a goal back, and also Pukki hit the post at 3-1. The goal and the pressure Finland managed to exert very probably wouldn't have happened if we'd stuck with three at the back. Less exciting for us fans, but a much more secure option. |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 18, 2020 23:58:17 GMT
Impressed with him tonight. In the last game he picked a fans' team and it didn't quite work. This time, he made a couple of unpopular decisions and got them spot on, showing he knows what he's doing far better than us! We were also tactically spot on from the beginning with our pressing game. We were far more fluid too,but that's probably more to do with the sending off. I thought the half time change was brave and spot on too and really showed intent! If Giggs doesn't return, I'd feel much more comfortable with Page leading us in the WC campaign after tonight's performance. I agree with most of your observations, but I'm not so sure bringing on Moore so early was such a smart move. Watching the MOTD highlights - Finland had two very good chances after getting a goal back, and also Pukki hit the post at 3-1. The goal and the pressure Finland managed to exert very probably wouldn't have happened if we'd stuck with three at the back. Less exciting for us fans, but a much more secure option. The cock up was surely taking Bale off so early? It just boosted the Finns. I only listened on the radio. Hard for me to call without seeing though. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 19, 2020 0:02:39 GMT
Top man:
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Post by insertname on Nov 19, 2020 0:40:35 GMT
I agree with most of your observations, but I'm not so sure bringing on Moore so early was such a smart move. Watching the MOTD highlights - Finland had two very good chances after getting a goal back, and also Pukki hit the post at 3-1. The goal and the pressure Finland managed to exert very probably wouldn't have happened if we'd stuck with three at the back. Less exciting for us fans, but a much more secure option. The cock up was surely taking Bale off so early? It just boosted the Finns. I only listened on the radio. Hard for me to call without seeing though. Yep. That substituían was analogous to the foxes realising the guard dog on the hen house had been taken inside for the night. |
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Post by insertname on Nov 19, 2020 0:42:30 GMT
Dangerous talk about the play off. It would be absolutely typical for a well fancied side to stumble and take a place off us. We should forget it even exists and go hell for leather to finish second or greater in our group |
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Post by quetzal on Nov 19, 2020 0:59:41 GMT
Dangerous talk about the play off. It would be absolutely typical for a well fancied side to stumble and take a place off us. We should forget it even exists and go hell for leather to finish second or greater in our group Yes my thoughts exactly. Imagine Wales banging on about the play off and we end playing a Romania with Bale and Ramsey injured and Allen suspended. Lottery stuff |
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Post by superunknown on Nov 19, 2020 7:36:01 GMT
Dangerous talk about the play off. It would be absolutely typical for a well fancied side to stumble and take a place off us. We should forget it even exists and go hell for leather to finish second or greater in our group Agreed, a half decent security option at best. We’d be going into the playoffs as unseeded against one of the 6 strongest runners up and looking at pots 2 and 3 there’d be some very tough games. Hopefully we can at least grab second place but time will tell. Praying for a kind draw on 7th. |
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Post by njdragon on Nov 19, 2020 8:33:46 GMT
Make no mistake this was still giggs team, tactics etc... He would have had a big remote presence. The FAW are keeping him out of the limelight - he is of course innocent until proven guilty.
Heard a lot of good things about page and how well he's respected though - the perfect backroom companion. Again got to give giggs credit for that and Albert, tony etc.
FAW and Jonathan ford got to take massive amounts of credit for their vision of welsh football over the years - and i would never have said that 5 years ago.
Great for welsh football and it is true that if you have come through the dark years of welsh football you will find it hard to complain now, lots of reporters tweeting this last night. But i do have sympathy for newer fans - fans we always wanted and needed - the reason why we offered cheap seats during the darker years. They have come to expect a level and rightly so. Us older guys are just happy to notch a win over decent sides rather that struggle against the likes of Lichtenstein as we have done on many many occasion.
A winning mentality from the fans to the players was always out of reach until now.
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Post by welwyn on Nov 19, 2020 8:40:18 GMT
The huge benefit of the play-off, from my point of view at least, is that if we get a Denmark or a Croatia in or group but end up in a 2018-style group where 3/4 teams go into the last 2 or 3 games with chances of the top 2, we can afford to risk losing games trying to win them (& therefore the group) without thinking about whether a point is a decent result for 2nd place.
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Post by jono on Nov 19, 2020 9:34:36 GMT
The huge benefit of the play-off, from my point of view at least, is that if we get a Denmark or a Croatia in or group but end up in a 2018-style group where 3/4 teams go into the last 2 or 3 games with chances of the top 2, we can afford to risk losing games trying to win them (& therefore the group) without thinking about whether a point is a decent result for 2nd place. Good point but I'd still go for it because the difference between finishing 2nd in our group or missing out on the top two is big. Chances are if we get 2nd we'll be seeded. If we miss out we'll be unseeded as Nations League qualifiers and may very well have to play 2 away games in the play offs. |
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Post by welwyn on Nov 19, 2020 10:04:59 GMT
The huge benefit of the play-off, from my point of view at least, is that if we get a Denmark or a Croatia in or group but end up in a 2018-style group where 3/4 teams go into the last 2 or 3 games with chances of the top 2, we can afford to risk losing games trying to win them (& therefore the group) without thinking about whether a point is a decent result for 2nd place. Good point but I'd still go for it because the difference between finishing 2nd in our group or missing out on the top two is big. Chances are if we get 2nd we'll be seeded. If we miss out we'll be unseeded as Nations League qualifiers and may very well have to play 2 away games in the play offs. Either way, we end up with 2 play-off games. I think the difference between being seeded and unseeded is not worth taking a point when a win might get us top and a place at the tournament. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 19, 2020 10:21:20 GMT
Dangerous talk about the play off. It would be absolutely typical for a well fancied side to stumble and take a place off us. We should forget it even exists and go hell for leather to finish second or greater in our group But one fancied side stumbling wouldn't prevent us getting a playoff 2 countries out of France, Belgium, Italy & Spain would both have to finish 3rd in their groups for us to not get a playoff. The playoff place is 99.9% guaranteed in other words, it's worthy of celebration and it's not dangerous to talk about |
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 7, 2020 20:08:36 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 10, 2021 10:05:01 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 10, 2021 10:38:02 GMT
What we all expected, now we can focus on the games with that clarified! |
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