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Post by iot on Sept 27, 2020 15:04:43 GMT
I definitely don't think he should look for a loan move, i'm more than happy with how much gametime he's had to date and likely to get throughout the season, i just haven't been impressed with his displays each time i've watched him over the last three years or so. Of course he's young and has plenty of time to improve, but given his lack of progression over the last three years I'm not pinning high hopes on him.
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Post by alarch on Sept 27, 2020 18:00:09 GMT
Had a very poor half, subbed after 45 mins. Leeds are after a few more players I believe, so I struggle to see him being Anything more than a bit part player. Come to think of it I havent seen a game where I thought he’s played that well. I feel you are being a tad harsh on the lad. He ran his socks off and was always making himself available. Felt that off the ball he was excellent today.
I thought exactly the opposite. He saw very little of the ball, but his movement was pretty much non-existent. This is an area where both him and Matondo have got a lot of improvement to make - on most occasions I've seen either of them, they tend to stand around waiting for things to happen. I'm surprised that Roberts had as many opportunities as he has considering Bielsa's high intensity brand of football. |
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Post by dai on Sept 27, 2020 18:08:40 GMT
I feel you are being a tad harsh on the lad. He ran his socks off and was always making himself available. Felt that off the ball he was excellent today.
I thought exactly the opposite. He saw very little of the ball, but his movement was pretty much non-existent. This is an area where both him and Matondo have got a lot of improvement to make - on most occasions I've seen either of them, they tend to stand around waiting for things to happen. I'm surprised that Roberts had as many opportunities as he has considering Bielsa's high intensity brand of football. Yeah, I felt he was pretty anonymous in general, and to be honest I would add Wilson to those two as well who are guilty of not doing enough off the ball. |
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Post by iot on Sept 27, 2020 19:44:20 GMT
I thought exactly the opposite. He saw very little of the ball, but his movement was pretty much non-existent. This is an area where both him and Matondo have got a lot of improvement to make - on most occasions I've seen either of them, they tend to stand around waiting for things to happen. I'm surprised that Roberts had as many opportunities as he has considering Bielsa's high intensity brand of football. Yeah, I felt he was pretty anonymous in general, and to be honest I would add Wilson to those two as well who are guilty of not doing enough off the ball. Completely agree with both of you, that's the main flaw in all three. They just don't impose themselves on games enough at this stage. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 3, 2020 15:39:35 GMT
Tyler starts in what is likely to be one of the games of the season against Man City. Kick off 5:30, a must watch
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Post by dai on Oct 3, 2020 15:43:15 GMT
Subbed half time after a shit 45 minutes.
Joke. Hopefully he can put in a decent performance today. What position is he playing?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 3, 2020 15:46:32 GMT
Probably as a 10 in behind Bamford
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 3, 2020 17:18:19 GMT
Tyler has done well in the first half, playing a big part in Leeds grappling control back from the Pep machine. Promising stuff.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 3, 2020 17:20:48 GMT
Much better this week - good to see against a top side too
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Post by dai on Oct 3, 2020 17:26:20 GMT
Hopefully he gets more minutes this second half, however I can see him being subbed. Probably been the quietest of all the forwards and midfielders.
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Post by dai on Oct 3, 2020 17:46:35 GMT
Balls, jinxed it
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Post by manulike on Oct 3, 2020 17:48:53 GMT
Yes you did ;-)
#RodreyTheBaller ;-(
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 4, 2020 10:59:56 GMT
I think he needs to back himself more. He's very tentative, it's almost like he tells himself it's going to go wrong before he's kicked it. I reckon a sports psychologist is in order as I believe the ability is there, which we do see in spurts. Also Bielsa has stated many times that there is a very good player in there, dying to get out and he's no fool.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 4, 2020 12:10:00 GMT
Tyler, Rodrigo, Bamford & possibly Hernandez are going to share the ST & no.10 positions all season. I'd imagine Tyler will be in and out of the team which is good for Cymru. I personally don't see the need for him to go on loan and play every game before the Euros. He's developing just fine in a great team, his first season in the Premier League under a great manager who seems to have faith in him & knows his game better than all of us do.
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Post by cadno on Oct 7, 2020 11:41:33 GMT
We could see him play up front at some point in our upcoming games!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 9, 2020 9:10:14 GMT
Tyler's dribbling ability genuinely surprised me - he looked very composed & his ability to body feint/shimmy/change direction was impressive. Needs to work on his shooting, but you can tell he's improving under Bielsa. I think if he had Bale, Brooks & Ramsey around him he'd fit right in, and would be good to see him get another start in our 1st team soon
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 9, 2020 9:13:44 GMT
He’s not a nine though, at least not yet. Neco put the ball on a plate for him yesterday and it knocked him to the floor. A natural goal scorer would bury that.
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Post by dai on Oct 9, 2020 9:15:20 GMT
He’s not a nine though, at least not yet. Neco put the ball on a plate for him yesterday and it knocked him to the floor. A natural goal scorer would bury that. Probably didn't want to mess up his barnet. |
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Post by dai on Oct 9, 2020 9:17:18 GMT
Tyler's dribbling ability genuinely surprised me - he looked very composed & his ability to body feint/shimmy/change direction was impressive. Needs to work on his shooting, but you can tell he's improving under Bielsa. I think if he had Bale, Brooks & Ramsey around him he'd fit right in, and would be good to see him get another start in our 1st team soon Well maybe if he played as a 9 Sunday with James, Brooks and Ramsey in support, we may get more out of him as a striker. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 9, 2020 9:25:54 GMT
Tyler's dribbling ability genuinely surprised me - he looked very composed & his ability to body feint/shimmy/change direction was impressive. Needs to work on his shooting, but you can tell he's improving under Bielsa. I think if he had Bale, Brooks & Ramsey around him he'd fit right in, and would be good to see him get another start in our 1st team soon Well maybe if he played as a 9 Sunday with James, Brooks and Ramsey in support, we may get more out of him as a striker. Yeah we might have to play him there & I think we might get more out of him. I think as the above poster said it's clear he's not an out and out 9 - he seems to be the type that carves out chances for others. Against top teams like England where you need to be clinical obviously it's more difficult without a goal scorer up there. Against Ireland we may well be alright & could be a good game for Tyler to really show us what he's all about |
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Post by jackanapes on Oct 9, 2020 9:37:28 GMT
I though Tyler was superb. Reminded me of HRK with his movement and dynamism. Just needs to add goals to his game (although HRK isn't exactly prolific and he's been a massive player for us).
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Post by gimli on Oct 9, 2020 10:20:13 GMT
Wonder if he could play as a false 9, dropping deeper to link play and create space for the wide men, similar to Firmino for Liverpool?
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Post by dai on Oct 9, 2020 10:30:25 GMT
Wonder if he could play as a false 9, dropping deeper to link play and create space for the wide men, similar to Firmino for Liverpool? Yeah, quite possibly. Maybe rotating front three with James and Brooks. |
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Post by georgetm1 on Oct 9, 2020 10:38:35 GMT
From what I saw of Roberts last night, the guy plays with a lot of confidence and some of his ball control was really good. Being a Leeds player has definitely improved him.
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Post by cadno on Oct 9, 2020 10:44:38 GMT
Wonder if he could play as a false 9, dropping deeper to link play and create space for the wide men, similar to Firmino for Liverpool? I've suggested this in the past, I think he could do it, but he struggled a bit up top last night? Unfair to look into that too much tho given we had a right back on one wing and a bit of a makeshift midfield for most of the 2nd half. He had his work cut out... but a false 9 with Bale and James on the wings ? Could be interesting |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 9, 2020 10:48:32 GMT
Wonder if he could play as a false 9, dropping deeper to link play and create space for the wide men, similar to Firmino for Liverpool? I've suggested this in the past, I think he could do it, but he struggled a bit up top last night? Unfair to look into that too much tho given we had a right back on one wing and a bit of a makeshift midfield for most of the 2nd half. He had his work cut out... but a false 9 with Bale and James on the wings ? Could be interesting Yeah considering his supporting players were Neco & Matondo with Jonny in behind I think he did well. When he had the ball at his feet I don't remember many England players being able to tackle him - hope he starts either Ireland or Bulgaria with some better players around him |
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Post by underwood on Oct 9, 2020 10:58:23 GMT
The recent posts have hit the nail on the head. Add Ramsey, Allen & Bale, not to mention the supporting cast of Brooks & James, to last night’s line-up & any one of the ‘fringe’ players would immediately look the part.
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Post by iot on Oct 9, 2020 13:14:18 GMT
Wonder if he could play as a false 9, dropping deeper to link play and create space for the wide men, similar to Firmino for Liverpool? I've suggested this in the past, I think he could do it, but he struggled a bit up top last night? Unfair to look into that too much tho given we had a right back on one wing and a bit of a makeshift midfield for most of the 2nd half. He had his work cut out... but a false 9 with Bale and James on the wings ? Could be interesting My hunch is that to play a false 9 you need to be dominant in the game. Otherwise, if you're under pressure like we were yesterday, there's just no out ball. That would be my only concern |
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Post by cadno on Oct 9, 2020 18:37:56 GMT
I've suggested this in the past, I think he could do it, but he struggled a bit up top last night? Unfair to look into that too much tho given we had a right back on one wing and a bit of a makeshift midfield for most of the 2nd half. He had his work cut out... but a false 9 with Bale and James on the wings ? Could be interesting My hunch is that to play a false 9 you need to be dominant in the game. Otherwise, if you're under pressure like we were yesterday, there's just no out ball. That would be my only concern Great point |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 10, 2020 11:41:21 GMT
His best part-game for us so far (first 30mins) IMO. After that very little, but that was because we were poor and totally on the back foot.
Don't think he's a natural target man either.
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