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Post by iot on Jan 16, 2023 14:53:59 GMT
I didn't see the game but the internet reports I've seen suggest his starting position was as wide right player. He's not a striker for me but when people spoke about Bale staying on against Croatia to ensure we didn't go down to 10 men they should also say Tyler Roberts stepped up to take onus off a cramped Bale regarding off the ball work. It was good to see then, as this moment of skill is now. Yes, but he's also had some very disappointing performances for us wide right too. I remember he started there against Trinidad & Tobago and I was excited to see what he could do. The answer was nothing... all game |
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 16, 2023 18:38:52 GMT
The home game against Estonia was a real chance for Roberts but one he didn't make the most of. Until he shows some consistency he shouldn't be selected because it's no use having a player on the pitch or bench that you can't rely on to perform. He clearly has ability and there must be something about him for a coach like Bielsa to have given him opportunities but he just has to find some consistency and, crucially, figure out what he actually is.
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Post by insertname on Jan 16, 2023 20:04:31 GMT
He needs to get into the habit of doing that, he has the ability. Idk what it is with him, just lacks self-belief or something. Too casual and not got much of a footballing brain I would say. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Jan 17, 2023 12:12:58 GMT
What he actually is has perplexed many a footballing brain. He looks to lack the desire to be an energetic winger, box to box midfielder or a false number 9.
Maybe the only thing left for him to be is an 'in and around the box' striker? Minimal effort just wait for the ball, create a bit of space, show some quick feet, ball in the back of the net, accept all the glory.
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Post by manulike on Apr 16, 2023 20:51:43 GMT
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Post by rushy on Apr 17, 2023 8:55:12 GMT
Probably had the natural talent that Pulis said he had in abundance, coached out of him to become a lost soul.
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Post by jimexotic on Apr 17, 2023 20:15:56 GMT
To be honest I don't and never really did consider him as part of the equation when thinking of our attacking options. I've grown to really loathe players that play like Roberts, if you're not going to score you need to assist, if you're not going to do either of those things you need to link play and create space for things to happen. I don't think he's ever going to be able to do that at a high level, whether it's confidence, intelligence, ability or a lack of desire, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he's going to suddenly get on it and be a player anything like what I hoped he'd be. He's one of those players that when he's out on the pitch for 80%-90% of the games he plays he's just there.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 18, 2023 18:15:40 GMT
I've seen him play really well as a CM for Leeds in the Premier League, and for me he should have been pushing for that to be his position ever since then. However, from quotes in interviews and things like that it seems as though he's always seen himself as a striker, and I wonder if that's been a bit self-defeating, as he's never looked like being prolific
I'd be open to considering him as a number 8 in the future if he sticks around at Championship level and can do that role, but other than that I agree I don't see him as a long term option as a forward
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Post by morg on Apr 18, 2023 18:25:24 GMT
He's not a forward but very good technically and can put a foot in. Only 24, there's still time. I keep coming back to the fact that someone like Bielsa seemed to have a lot of faith in him.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 15, 2023 14:36:08 GMT
Heading to Birmingham apparently. £1.5m seems a bit high
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Post by manulike on Jun 15, 2023 17:29:39 GMT
Heading to Birmingham apparently. £1.5m seems a bit high Think he started in WBA - so possibly its a family decision? |
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Post by Belle Vue on Jun 15, 2023 20:39:43 GMT
From Gloucester
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 15, 2023 22:18:00 GMT
Still think he's a better 8 than a 10 or a 9. If he plays as an 8 for Birmingham and gets regular minutes I could see a way back for him into the international setup. Until then I think we have better options. 24 now
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 16, 2023 6:22:38 GMT
He never seems to have the proper work ethic over a sustained period of time. He goes through the odd period where he hits a purple patch but sooner or later he then goes back to doing very little on the pitch.
He’s definitely not a striker and without the strong work ethic of a winger/midfielder he doesn’t fit elsewhere.His career seems to be heading in the wrong direction unless he can drastically change something which I certainly can’t see happening
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Post by dai on Jun 16, 2023 9:20:59 GMT
I think he lacks confidence, and doesn't come across as being very assured.
He is certainly a technically gifted footballer, has very good feet and ball control. But something is missing.
Another issue, like many have mentioned is where does he sit on the pitch. Remember him saying once he thinks of himself as a striker, but I don't see that.
He needs to reinvent himself, and define himself in a specific role.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 16, 2023 11:56:57 GMT
His biggest purple patch came when he played as an 8 for Leeds in the Premier League under Bielsa. Watched a few games and he was up and down (Bielsa demands that) and his technical ability to receive the ball, turn, carry and pass was all there
Other clubs/managers have used him as a striker but as others have said I don't see those instincts in him at senior level. Would love to see a manager use him deeper & I think there is a player there then
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 16, 2023 14:55:55 GMT
His biggest purple patch came when he played as an 8 for Leeds in the Premier League under Bielsa. Watched a few games and he was up and down (Bielsa demands that) and his technical ability to receive the ball, turn, carry and pass was all there Other clubs/managers have used him as a striker but as others have said I don't see those instincts in him at senior level. Would love to see a manager use him deeper & I think there is a player there then You are correct BUT it was only a purple patch. Even with a reknown taskmaster like Bielsa demanding he got up and down the pitch it soon faded. Thus has been TR problem all his career. |
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Post by iantov on Dec 26, 2023 21:44:56 GMT
First game since the opening day
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Post by Belle Vue on Dec 27, 2023 6:08:44 GMT
Awful
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 1, 2024 1:26:02 GMT
Just never quite turned out to be the player we thought he'd be after that run under Bielsa
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 1, 2024 13:03:09 GMT
He's still only 24, so let's not write him off just yet. Has plenty of footballing ability, but perhaps lacking confidence.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 1, 2024 14:29:29 GMT
On the bench again today
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Post by surge on Feb 15, 2024 12:12:44 GMT
Back in the starting line-up for their midweek fixture.
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Post by talyfan on Aug 30, 2024 22:52:49 GMT
Signed for Northampton Town in League 1 on loan
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Post by paj on Aug 31, 2024 8:26:53 GMT
Think we can safely discount him from representing Cymru again.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 31, 2024 9:14:57 GMT
Mad how under Bielsa he looked like a Premier League level centre mid for a bit. He always saw himself as a striker but just never seemed to score enough goals to be dangerous up there. Always felt he was better dropping back
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Post by garynysmon on Aug 31, 2024 9:17:45 GMT
He's still only 24, so let's not write him off just yet. Has plenty of footballing ability, but perhaps lacking confidence. I'm going to live dangerously and write him off tbh. The latest in a line of Welsh-qualified players who were remotely close to the first team of a PL club (which automatically gets Wales fans excited and leads to overhyping) but more often than not just end up slipping down the leagues. He'll be at Hemel Hempstead Town with George Williams soon enough  |
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Post by kracken88 on Aug 31, 2024 9:48:25 GMT
Good on the ball,good passer but another one of those players that just never found their position,or perhaps he did and he just wasn't good enough,I mean all those managers can't be wrong can they?. Shame but I suppose stranger things have happened than it all clicking for him, unlikely though isn't it.
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 31, 2024 9:49:57 GMT
He's still only 24, so let's not write him off just yet. Has plenty of footballing ability, but perhaps lacking confidence. I'm going to live dangerously and write him off tbh. The latest in a line of Welsh-qualified players who were remotely close to the first team of a PL club (which automatically gets Wales fans excited and leads to overhyping) but more often than not just end up slipping down the leagues. He'll be at Hemel Hempstead Town with George Williams soon enough Roberts was pretty highly rated outside of Wales fans at one point though tbf, I think he's a case of one of those players who's a good footballer but isn't necessarily good at football. You know in that he's clearly got technical ability and talent, but has never found a position on the pitch that makes use of that and has weaknesses that prevent him from playing certain positions in the modern game Probably be most remembered by Wales fans for missing a late one on one against Estonia at home |
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Post by talyfan on Aug 31, 2024 9:54:50 GMT
An interesting one. Never rule anyone out he's still only 25! Feel like he's been around forever!
Interesting to see how much football he'll play this season. Always been blighted with injuries. Could be the first time ever for him where's he starting and playing 90 minutes each week in and week out.
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