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Post by Tim P on Jan 3, 2012 13:06:09 GMT
From what I can gather, it seems increasingly likely that Ray and Osian will be leading the new Project.
What's not so clear is who will be in charge. This is my biggest concern, as I think a joint Idea has the potential to be an absolute disaster. Has a joint setup ever been a success in football?
Based on what I know, or rather what I think I know, I'd go for Ray heading it up, with Osian as assistant. I'd rather the cool head to be there to advise the boss when we hit a speed bump, as opposed to the other way round.
On a side note: within this setup, I'd like to see Giggs offered an interview for a coaching role. How this played out would probably say a lot about Giggs.
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 3, 2012 13:25:07 GMT
If we are going to go down this road then it has to be Ray as manager with Osian as assistant for me. Joint managers is a hotchpotch- a recipe for disaster. My preference would be for Ray and Osian to stay where they are and keep doing what they've been doing, with Mark Hughes or Guus Hiddink brought in as manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 13:57:50 GMT
Has a joint setup ever been a success in football? Two men jointly managed Coventry City to the FA Cup in 1987 - I forget what their names were. That's the only instance I can think of off the top of my head. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 14:04:14 GMT
Mark Pembridge
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 3, 2012 16:42:50 GMT
Interesting that Ray has hardly tweeted recently. Maybe he's on his best behaviour and trying to make sure he doesn't scupper his chances?
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Post by llannerch on Jan 4, 2012 12:20:48 GMT
Sweden had a successful joint coach set up involving everyone's favourite Swede Lars Lagerback and Tommy Soderberg.
Oddly, no-one is suggesting Lagerback to take over now whereas it was remarkable he didn't get the job first time round. Where's Kerr's fanbase gone too?
Can't think of many other examples of joint coaches
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 4, 2012 22:33:23 GMT
Well, Lagerback was out of work before. He has a job now. Just like Hiddink was in a job before and is out of work now. Which means the FAW can spend the money on wages rather than compo.
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Post by saints19 on Jan 5, 2012 1:09:42 GMT
Kerr's 'fanbase' was basically me. I haven't gone anywhere, I still think Kerr would be a decent choice, but feel if we could attract Hiddink or Hughes they would be the prime targets and if not, Verheijen might be a more likely left-field candidate than Kerr (not to mention being cheaper to hire).
Lagerback would have been a good choice when he was available, but as ff points out he is now managing Iceland. Presume the wealthy Icelandic FA offered him the megabucks we couldn't, then. Either that or, shock, horror, Abbandonato was talking shite when he said it would have cost £1m to hire his team.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Jan 5, 2012 18:47:16 GMT
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Post by stu on Jan 6, 2012 10:23:42 GMT
Nah, Iceland should take a leaf out of Camerons book and stick two fingers up at them, let's see how the unionists handle that reversal.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Jan 22, 2012 12:02:25 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16665571.stm" While Coleman is yet to speak to coach Raymond Verheijen, Roberts believes the Dutchman should be retained.
"I know what he brings to the team and what he means to the players," he said."" What I told Chris is that he has to ensure he gets the team perfect," said Roberts.
"I don't think Kit has the same strengths as Raymond. Who will have the expertise that Raymond brought to the table?
"If Raymond is not going to be there, who's going to do that work? If Kit is quite similar to me, sense tells you that he would take my role and Raymond stays."
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Post by saints19 on Jan 22, 2012 13:35:34 GMT
What an unselfish thing to do. Absolute respect for Roberts. Rare that you see someone put the team before himself like that.
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Post by njdragon on Jan 22, 2012 13:38:58 GMT
Great to hear roberts speak up - We really need to retain RV and Osian. All credit to speed if he listens now and keeps them on board. Fuck Symons, He's english anyway  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 13:45:13 GMT
Osian Roberts is a legend. Fair play like...I really hope Coleman keeps him and Verheijen on board, He seems really keen to get Kit Symonds on board so i really don't know whats going to happen to O.R and R.V. Hmmm...
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 25, 2012 14:11:47 GMT
Will he be staying on as a coach? And will he be in charge for Wednesday- picking the team and tactics etc- now that Verheijen has resigned?
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Feb 25, 2012 14:36:02 GMT
He will be staying with wales, I know its speedos game but I don't see why Coleman don't take charge he was good mates with Speed anyway!
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Feb 25, 2012 15:23:46 GMT
Isn't he employed by the Welsh Football Trust & they pay his wages?
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Post by njdragon on Feb 25, 2012 16:13:56 GMT
seems like a pointless exercise now as there's only roberts left of the original team.
Coleman should just take the reigns with osian as assistant. Its a perfect opportunity for coleman to get a win under his belt with the players being especially motivated to win this one for speed.
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 26, 2012 9:45:47 GMT
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Post by Tim P on Feb 26, 2012 11:29:50 GMT
Anyone else slightly worried by the part in that article that states Coleman missed a scheduled press conference this week?
EDIT: I've re-read the article - it is, I suppose, possible that Coleman didn't think he was pencilled in to attend. Benefit of the doubt awarded.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Feb 26, 2012 18:37:06 GMT
Anyone else slightly worried by the part in that article that states Coleman missed a scheduled press conference this week? EDIT: I've re-read the article - it is, I suppose, possible that Coleman didn't think he was pencilled in to attend. Benefit of the doubt awarded. Hope he ain't reverting to his old habits and having a night out in the Kingswood Arms again. www.kingswoodarms.co.uk/ |
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Post by biwmares on Mar 12, 2014 20:55:08 GMT
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Post by ontheroadagain on Mar 12, 2014 21:21:18 GMT
Thanks, will try to catch it at the weekend.
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Post by njdragon on Mar 14, 2014 16:22:49 GMT
good post!
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Post by Tim P on Mar 14, 2014 17:06:03 GMT
Thanks for this, will check it out.
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Post by cadnox on Mar 25, 2014 1:01:33 GMT
www.s4c.co.uk/clic/e_level2.shtml?series_id=514365643Dyna 'link' i'r rhaglen mwyaf diweddar, diddorol gweld sut mae'r gêm genedlaethol yn cael ei rhedeg. It's very interesting to see all the work that goes into Welsh Football and it's great to see a focus on the long-term side of things. Very important. The future is bright for our national team.
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Post by toshfan on Mar 25, 2014 10:14:36 GMT
www.s4c.co.uk/clic/e_level2.shtml?series_id=514365643Dyna 'link' i'r rhaglen mwyaf diweddar, diddorol gweld sut mae'r gêm genedlaethol yn cael ei rhedeg. It's very interesting to see all the work that goes into Welsh Football and it's great to see a focus on the long-term side of things. Very important. The future is bright for our national team. Cytuno 100%. A thoroughly well put together series thus far. As someone who is critical of S4C for the way it prioritises rugby over football, I should acknowledge that what it has produced over the years e.g. this, Ben Davies, John Hartson, 2002-2004 campaign, Sgorio etc is of very good quality. |
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Post by alarch on Mar 25, 2014 11:35:34 GMT
Osian comes across very well, as he always does. Very level headed, humble and intelligent. We're so lucky to have him.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 25, 2014 14:02:32 GMT
Osian has done more for welsh football than we appreciate
The way they train coaches and the way they were brave enough to go to smaller pitches and teams for the youngsters, something those across the border have just started to implement.
Next step is summer football at least for the mini football, as this will allow them to train and play in weather that doesn't freeze them to the bones
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Post by cadnox on Mar 25, 2014 17:16:45 GMT
I think it goes to show how brilliant a job Osian has done when you look at the ex-players etc that choose to take the FAW coaching programme.
Garry Monk, Sol Campbell and Patrice Viera took the UEFA Pro Licence course (I think) with the FAW last weekend.
Silly question coming up but, could Monk possibly be a future manager? Would he want the Welsh job?
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