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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 11, 2017 15:13:38 GMT
In many respects keeping Osian with FAW is more important than a new manager. Hope Coleman stays, they seem to have a good working relationship.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 11, 2017 15:23:52 GMT
would Osian want to be the manager? has he ever said maybe one day???
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 11, 2017 18:21:04 GMT
I doubt it, he seems to love his behind the scenes role. As the op said he's the FAW guru!
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Post by bale-droed on Oct 11, 2017 20:32:14 GMT
Osian is the true MVP of Wales.
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Post by alarch on Oct 11, 2017 21:27:29 GMT
If Coleman does leave, and that's not an outcome I particularly want (although if he's to stay I want him to make changes), we should very much look from within first of all. If Iceland can win a tough qualifying group with a part-time dentist who hasn't managed outside his own country we shouldn't assume that we haven't got the talent within. Osian Roberts is a perfect example of a "nobody" who's proven to be superior in insight and expertise than many a high-profile figure in the English pyramid.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 13, 2017 17:25:51 GMT
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Post by pendragon on Nov 13, 2017 18:50:37 GMT
If Coleman does leave, and that's not an outcome I particularly want (although if he's to stay I want him to make changes), we should very much look from within first of all. If Iceland can win a tough qualifying group with a part-time dentist who hasn't managed outside his own country we shouldn't assume that we haven't got the talent within. Osian Roberts is a perfect example of a "nobody" who's proven to be superior in insight and expertise than many a high-profile figure in the English pyramid. I know this comment is well over a month old by now but I second this statement. So true! Iceland pulled off a monumentous achievement and it could well have been within our grasp too. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 19, 2017 8:40:32 GMT
It’s been argued elsewhere that the new manager will need a high profile to ensure Ampadu and Brooks stick with us. That’s missing the point that it’s down to a Osian that those kids and others have had a taste of the English system but decided to stick with us. He’s also the reason they all know the anthem.
Credit where it’s due.
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 19, 2017 8:43:48 GMT
It’s been argued elsewhere that the new manager will need a high profile to ensure Ampadu and Brooks stick with us. That’s missing the pint that I t’s down to a Osian that those kids and others have had a taste of the English system but decided to stick with us. He’s also the reason they all know the anthem. Credit where it’s due. Agree with you on this one. The Manager is the figurehead.Osian is the one, and will always be, the one who does the hard work behind the scenes. By the time these players mature to the first team they have usually been under his tenure for 5+ years. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 12:38:34 GMT
Osian Roberts hopes to succeed Chris Coleman as Wales boss... www.bbc.com/sport/football/42122643Osian Roberts says he would be interested in succeeding Chris Coleman as Wales manager. The 52-year-old has been part of Wales' coaching team since 2010, when the late Gary Speed was appointed manager. He became assistant manager in 2015 under Coleman, who resigned earlier this month to become Sunderland boss. "The last seven years have been an incredible journey. I don't have any doubts that I could make be a success of the role," said Roberts. "I couldn't be more experienced on the international stage without actually doing the job itself. "I know the steps that need to be taken to if Wales are to reach Euro 2020. "There's a bright future in front of this group of players, and there's more young talent coming through." Roberts did not play professional football in the United Kingdom, taking up a scholarship in the United States at the age of 19. He helped Coleman guide Wales to the Euro 2016 semi-finals and was also at his side when their 2018 World Cup hopes ended. Roberts, who is also Football Association of Wales technical director, expects the governing body to "take their time" over appointing Coleman's successor. He told BBC Radio Cymru's Ar y Marc (On The Mark) football programme: "I'm a proud Welshman that's enjoyed the journey over the past seven years, and I'm sure there's more to come. "I would know if it's time for me to leave. But the most important thing is this team goes from strength to strength. "I think continuity and consistency are factors that are underestimated in the modern game and it's important this group of players get the best possible opportunity to succeed and reach Euro 2020." |
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Post by hookd on Nov 25, 2017 13:53:28 GMT
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Post by haruki on Nov 25, 2017 14:00:03 GMT
If he wants it then it's his as far as I am concerned
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 14:13:06 GMT
If he wants it then it's his as far as I am concerned Surely so! To expand on your statement. If Osian is now showing the ambition to move away from his current role, then this could end up being our way of keeping him. The reason I haven't been touting him before is because I was being greedy. I'm sure others are the same possibly? We need to remember Osian hasn't earned the money in the game that the likes of Henry, Bellamy, Pulis and Giggs have made. It's natural that he going to want to get the most from the market that he can get so he can provide for his familly etc. At 52, this is Osian's time where he has to make his move. The other thing Osian gives us is the chance to nuture the next next manager in the team behind him. There's no reason why this can't be someone like Bellamy could learn as a no.2, if he's willing to put in the time. But perhaps the time frame makes this a bit idealistic and unrealistic. I just can't look beyond Osian now. Perfect for transition. Perfect for the players. And even the fans know and love him now. At the risk of coming across like his agent, is there someone better for the job? |
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Post by hookd on Nov 25, 2017 14:20:24 GMT
You have to back someone like Osian.
What I love is his self confidence. Someone who is usually in the background is typically understated / very modest. However, to come out, say he wants the job and state he is the man to drive the team forward gives the impression that now is the time! I would not be surprised if a lot of Coleman's 'best bits' had a lot to do with Osain. Who does he need as his #2 and who would he be likely to get?
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Post by alarch on Nov 25, 2017 14:25:16 GMT
Osian ticks more boxes than anyone else - and the some of the most important ones too - continuity of playing style, and familiarity with the players. He lacks Coleman's charisma and perhaps his man-management skills - but is also impressive in a much more understated, measured way. I haven't backed him before because I assumed he wouldn't want the job - but now that he's thrown his hat into the ring I can't see there being a better candidate. As for someone taking over his role - there are plenty of candidates who've been involved in the FAW. Dave Adams (assistant to Alan Curtis when he was caretaker manager prior to Clement's appointment) is the obvious candidate. I would be hugely encouraged and enthused by both appointments. Adams would be perfect for the job: www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/unknown-swansea-city-coach-who-10669513It will be interesting to see what reaction, if any, there is from the players. They've been conspicuously silent about the candidature of all the names touted to date - so it will be interesting to see if some come out in support of Roberts. That could seal the deal. |
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Post by alarch on Nov 25, 2017 14:32:53 GMT
I've put my money where my mouth is and backed him at 12/1. Amazingly he doesn't even appear on the odds with odd-checker or a number of individual betting companies. That will change soon...
Bet you he's favourite by the end of the day - not that necessarily means anything. Is there a way of betting who will be the favourite at days end?...
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Post by alarch on Nov 25, 2017 14:36:09 GMT
If he wants it then it's his as far as I am concerned Surely so! To expand on your statement. If Osian is now showing the ambition to move away from his current role, then this could end up being our way of keeping him. The reason I haven't been touting him before is because I was being greedy. I'm sure others are the same possibly? We need to remember Osian hasn't earned the money in the game that the likes of Henry, Bellamy, Pulis and Giggs have made. It's natural that he going to want to get the most from the market that he can get so he can provide for his familly etc. At 52, this is Osian's time where he has to make his move. The other thing Osian gives us is the chance to nuture the next next manager in the team behind him. There's no reason why this can't be someone like Bellamy could learn as a no.2, if he's willing to put in the time. But perhaps the time frame makes this a bit idealistic and unrealistic. I just can't look beyond Osian now. Perfect for transition. Perfect for the players. And even the fans know and love him now. At the risk of coming across like his agent, is there someone better for the job? Excellent post - sums things up beautifully. And to answer your question - no. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 14:38:35 GMT
Good point on the players Alarch. Did you hear Ash come out and say something to the effect of "we know it's unorthodox but we'd like to give our input"?
I got the impression that there were candidates that the players really would and wouldn't like. This was a really bold and move from Ash which I respected a lot I have to say. Shows he and the other players care so much more than previous generations. I reckon they definitely should be consulted via the captain.
The problem with the three favourites is that they are all have a bit of contentiousness and controversy about them.
Then there's Osian.
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Post by alarch on Nov 25, 2017 14:42:16 GMT
Osian Roberts has only just appeared on Paddy Power - at 45 to 1... Needless to say I've found those odds irresistable.
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Post by alarch on Nov 25, 2017 14:50:00 GMT
I wonder why it's gone quiet on here all of a sudden? A sudden rush to Paddy Power I suspect...
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Post by joseywales37 on Nov 25, 2017 14:55:06 GMT
Can't help but feel we shouldn't change his role, at the same time he deserves more than anyone. Is cloning to much to ask ?
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Post by alarch on Nov 25, 2017 14:57:25 GMT
Dave Adams is perfect to take on Osian's mantle (check his credentials) - and could be a successor to Osian as manager. I think things are falling perfectly into place.
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Post by badfinger on Nov 25, 2017 16:00:53 GMT
Osian Roberts has only just appeared on Paddy Power - at 45 to 1... Needless to say I've found those odds irresistable. would only allow me 8 quid at 45/1. down to 12s now |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 25, 2017 16:47:08 GMT
The FAW are in a tricky position, if they offer the job to someone other than Osian they risk damaging their relationship with him. This makes it highly likely he’ll get the job and that can only be good. As he said himself, it makes the most sense in terms of continuity and that’s what we need more than anything right now.
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Post by badfinger on Nov 25, 2017 16:56:51 GMT
The FAW are in a tricky position, if they offer the job to someone other than Osian they risk damaging their relationship with him. This makes it highly likely he’ll get the job and that can only be good. As he said himself, it makes the most sense in terms of continuity and that’s what we need more than anything right now. i can only imagine he has thrown his hat in the ring having been encouraged to do so..? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 17:25:10 GMT
The FAW are in a tricky position, if they offer the job to someone other than Osian they risk damaging their relationship with him. This makes it highly likely he’ll get the job and that can only be good. As he said himself, it makes the most sense in terms of continuity and that’s what we need more than anything right now. Precisely. It was a bit of a check mate move by OR, but he's entitled to do it. They either give him the job or most likely to a rookie who was his apprentice. Looking at it from Osian's point of view, now we know he does want the hotseat, it would be a tad strange remaining in his role and being second fiddle to someone he trained. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Nov 25, 2017 19:56:57 GMT
If he puts his hat in the ring then he's the outstanding candidate.
As otto mentioned he's trained most of those on the list of possibles.
I'd say he's probably had a lot of input into 'The Welsh Way' aswell.
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Post by manulike on Nov 25, 2017 20:35:23 GMT
I'd love to think that #TeamTony can work together with Osian, as I still feel it's Tony's job if he wants it.
Failing that, Osian as manager and Bellers as number 2, works for me, as well.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 26, 2017 15:04:54 GMT
I've said before, failing Pulis or another similarly experienced manager, Roberts on a temporary or permanent basis would be my choice.
Now we know he's interested whereas Pulis has been silent and no other names are being linked, I'd say that makes him the new favourite.
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Post by badfinger on Nov 26, 2017 16:54:56 GMT
I've said before, failing Pulis or another similarly experienced manager, Roberts on a temporary or permanent basis would be my choice. Now we know he's interested whereas Pulis has been silent and no other names are being linked, I'd say that makes him the new favourite. there was a small rush of money on him yesterday { including a small bet by me } but currently 3rd fav.. i did think there would be more interset ..someone who is a fixture at the FA and is probably privy to some if not all whats being said about possible candidates decides to enter the race must either feel he is as good or better than the others,or has been encouraged from within to put himself forward. |
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