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Post by marsvolta on Oct 3, 2010 17:40:50 GMT
i'm confused.he's been universally mocked as an example of how bad welsh football is for years.looked out of depth in every welsh game he played.pulls out of the croatia squad cos he had to complete a transfer to norwich(despite there being about three full months til the end of the transfer window)
then has half a dozen good games for a mid table championship club and suddenly theres a outrage that he's not in the squad.
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Post by yrarglwyddlucan on Oct 3, 2010 17:44:40 GMT
His omission from the Croatia squad was agreed with JT. He is playing well for Norwich. Doble can't even get on the bench in a lower division.
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Post by llannerch on Oct 3, 2010 18:27:49 GMT
i'm confused.he's been universally mocked as an example of how bad welsh football is for years.looked out of depth in every welsh game he played.pulls out of the croatia squad cos he had to complete a transfer to norwich(despite there being about three full months til the end of the transfer window) then has half a dozen good games for a mid table championship club and suddenly theres a outrage that he's not in the squad. The same thought occurred to me too |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 18:29:33 GMT
i'm confused.he's been universally mocked as an example of how bad welsh football is for years.looked out of depth in every welsh game he played.pulls out of the croatia squad cos he had to complete a transfer to norwich(despite there being about three full months til the end of the transfer window) then has half a dozen good games for a mid table championship club and suddenly theres a outrage that he's not in the squad. You're suggesting that some people here may be fickle? Surely not. Crofts was never so appalling as people made out- and even though he was selected regularly in squads for Toshack, he only ever came on as a sub- usually when we had next to no other choices on the bench. Personally, I would have selected him for the squad given his current purple patch, if only because we so plainly lack physically strong ball winners in midfield. That said, 3 months in the Championship isn't going to turn him into Roy Keane. |
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Post by llannerch on Oct 3, 2010 18:37:46 GMT
Fickle? The folk round by yer? Hmmm.....
Flynn is now Public Enemy #3 (behind Bellamy and Dai Jones), yet less than a week ago the FAW were being slagged off on this board for only giving him 2 games and not til the end of the campaign.
I haven't seen a 'Darcy Blake-for-centre half' post for a while....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 18:43:57 GMT
Fickle? The folk round by yer? Hmmm..... Flynn is now Public Enemy #3 (behind Bellamy and Dai Jones), yet less than a week ago the FAW were being slagged off on this board for only giving him 2 games and not til the end of the campaign. I haven't seen a 'Darcy Blake-for-centre half' post for a while.... I quite like Blake. He will definitely be an option in this campaign. However, if given the choice, I would select Ribeiro. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 18:54:36 GMT
i'm confused.he's been universally mocked as an example of how bad welsh football is for years.looked out of depth in every welsh game he played.pulls out of the croatia squad cos he had to complete a transfer to norwich(despite there being about three full months til the end of the transfer window) then has half a dozen good games for a mid table championship club and suddenly theres a outrage that he's not in the squad. I dont get it either, but he has come from nowhere to nail down a starting spot in the Championship. Lambert seems to know what he is doing there so I trust his judgement that Crofts must have something about him. I mean on a good day hes not a starter, maybe not even a squad player. But surely hes got to offer more than a lad who hasnt made a senior appearance for Southampton? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2010 19:00:54 GMT
Ability and achievement are two different things- especially when one is a mature player, the other a youngster.
Having seen both I can state with some confidence Doble is far more gifted technically and doesn't seem phased by the level of opposition he faces. Flynn has worked with Doble and believes he is up to the task- he has made his decision accordingly.
It isn't the selection I would have made, but it is hardly a difficult one to understand.
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 3, 2010 19:03:03 GMT
Fickle? The folk round by yer? Hmmm..... Flynn is now Public Enemy #3 (behind Bellamy and Dai Jones), yet less than a week ago the FAW were being slagged off on this board for only giving him 2 games and not til the end of the campaign. I haven't seen a 'Darcy Blake-for-centre half' post for a while.... to be fair,i dont think flynn is public eneny #3 yet.people just felt let down by him after all the support he has had from us all.i'm a fan of flynn but when i saw him in that interview shrugging off the whole bellamy thing and talking about cosy chats with dave jones my blood started to boil and i saw red. |
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Post by georgetm1 on Oct 3, 2010 19:09:29 GMT
No offence to him, but he is never is used or good enough for us. We have much better.
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Post by bale-droed on Oct 3, 2010 22:36:12 GMT
good point about darcy blake! should be in the squad. but d collins j collins gabbidon riberio ash williams does sound plenty!
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Post by llannerch on Oct 9, 2010 19:47:00 GMT
Now is the time to show your mettle. Holding role for Wednesday Who else is there?  |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 9, 2010 19:49:34 GMT
Darcy Blake? Andy King?
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Post by youngdragon on Oct 9, 2010 19:56:23 GMT
serious?
no matter how bad any nation gets they will NEVER need him also i would prefer ashley williams holding again( and yes we all know how poor he was against bulgaria)
hell id even prefer brian flynn himself holding would be a much better option
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Post by llannerch on Oct 9, 2010 20:03:55 GMT
Andy King is better further up the pitch. I'd pick Blake at rb So it has to be Crofts |
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Post by flynnfan on Oct 9, 2010 20:09:51 GMT
Just because King scores lots of goals doesn't mean he's an 'attacking midfielder'. He's better breaking from deep. He also provides a real ariel goal threat from set pieces, but most of the time in open play he likes to sit quite deep and read the game going on in front of him.
Blake could play RB, but we've also got Ribiero and Adam Matthews in the squad so we're not short of options there.
It most certainly doesn't have to be Crofts.
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Post by llannerch on Oct 9, 2010 20:18:20 GMT
Just because King scores lots of goals doesn't mean he's an 'attacking midfielder'. He's better breaking from deep. He also provides a real ariel goal threat from set pieces, but most of the time in open play he likes to sit quite deep and read the game going on in front of him. Blake could play RB, but we've also got Ribiero and Adam Matthews in the squad so we're not short of options there. It most certainly doesn't have to be Crofts. Flynn doesn't trust Matthews; if he did, he'd have more than the paltry number of u21 caps he has (2?). Flynn won't pick him Has Ribeiro played rb much for Flynn at u21? Not really, nor for Bristol City. Flynn won't pick him Ergo, Blake at rb King will be a more like-for-like replacement for Ledley All roads lead to Croft my friend |
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Post by raptor on Oct 10, 2010 8:21:38 GMT
Talking of full backs Flynn played 4 against Bulgaria!!!!!
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Post by Tim P on Oct 10, 2010 13:42:52 GMT
i wasn't aware that flynn didn't Trust mathews - i'm sure i heard him raving about him a few months ago.
i'll be happy to see blake - for me he could be tried as the holding midfielder, but in D is also fine.
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Post by llannerch on Oct 11, 2010 11:42:48 GMT
i wasn't aware that flynn didn't Trust mathews - i'm sure i heard him raving about him a few months ago. Raved about him he might have, but he hardly ever played him did he? |
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Post by llannerch on Oct 12, 2010 19:50:31 GMT
Flynn doesn't trust Matthews; if he did, he'd have more than the paltry number of u21 caps he has (2?). Flynn won't pick him Has Ribeiro played rb much for Flynn at u21? Not really, nor for Bristol City. Flynn won't pick him Ergo, Blake at rb King will be a more like-for-like replacement for Ledley All roads lead to Croft my friend Fair play, I called it bang on the money |
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Post by bellamyforever on Oct 14, 2010 10:32:53 GMT
he played well, i was suprised. just sat there and did a job. decent passer two,
i admire players like this who were not even in the original squad coming and doing a job,
let this be a lesson to you simon fulham fc davies.
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Post by jonathandearth on Feb 26, 2011 17:32:15 GMT
2 goals today - 8 this season so far.
Seeing though he's a midfielder he's doing great - compare his goals against Earnshaw - 6 goals & Church - 4 goals.
Two very good goals today - first a very good header. The second being compared to Justin Fashanu's goal of the season in the early 80's.
Got to be a certainty for the Wales squad - an a real option to consider for the team.
Use to hate it when Toshack would play him when he was palying 2nd Division football. But maybe Tosh knew more than me. Surely not.
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Post by gareth on Feb 26, 2011 17:59:13 GMT
Looks a different player to last year. Can't say I noticed if his league form was good before Norwich. Still get pissed off when I see him come on for Wales though. Could he be the one to transfer his league form to international level?!
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 26, 2011 22:07:24 GMT
Sorry, this may be totally irrational, but he's one of those players whose presence in our starting line up always makes my heart sink, because it always feels like we'll be more likely to lose with players of his quality in the side.
Other examples- Danny Collins, Neil Eardley, Brian Stock, David Vaughan..
In the past- Carl Robinson, Gavin Maguire...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2011 22:16:10 GMT
Sorry, this may be totally irrational, but he's one of those players whose presence in our starting line up always makes my heart sink, because it always feels like we'll be more likely to lose with players of his quality in the side. Other examples- Danny Collins, Neil Eardley, Brian Stock, David Vaughan.. In the past- Carl Robinson, Gavin Maguire... That's exactly right flynnfan. He could score 5 hatricks in a row for all I care - he's just not good enough for the level of international football that we crave. |
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Post by marsvolta on Feb 26, 2011 23:50:47 GMT
jesus! ive just seen his goal against barnsley today.brilliant.
but yeah, still about 8th choice id say.
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 27, 2011 0:05:55 GMT
yep, scoring an exceptional goal in the championship doesn't automatically make you a good international footballer. Remember this from Darren Barnard? : www.youtube.com/watch?v=n13jAdfBL_U |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Feb 27, 2011 1:39:36 GMT
Barnard was ok for wales actually!
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Post by flynnfan on Feb 27, 2011 12:52:10 GMT
Yeah, he was OK, but he wasn't 'good'. It's telling that Sparky preferred to use a center half (Coleman) and a midfielder (Speed) at left back than Barnard. And when he came back into the team due to injuries in the latter half of the Euro 2004 campaign we were nowhere near as good as we were in 2002 (when Barnard didn't play)
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