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Post by wxmjames on May 26, 2017 9:08:55 GMT
Back on the topic of Collins, Coleman stated he isn't 100% but may be called upon if we have any drop outs. If that's the case, it still seems a little odd not inviting him to the camp. His presence alone would be of value considering the lack of experience amongst the defensive options. Coleman has never seemed to have much faith in him, and they have fallen out in the past so I am not sure |
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Post by manulike on Jul 27, 2017 20:39:48 GMT
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Post by dai on Aug 22, 2017 8:38:00 GMT
Whats happening here then? West Ham look awful in the back. Is he injured?
Few comments on Twitter / forums saying he should be in the team based on how poor they look.
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Post by manulike on Aug 22, 2017 9:27:34 GMT
Whats happening here then? West Ham look awful in the back. Is he injured? Few comments on Twitter / forums saying he should be in the team based on how poor they look. Maybe a move to PSG? Everyone else seems to be on their way there ;-) |
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Post by welshiron on Aug 22, 2017 12:27:23 GMT
If Collins doesn't play in their next game then he should look for a move.
However, he is happy at the club and might be content to pick up a very good wage without having to play a lot for it.
A move to Newcastle or Brighton could be on the cards if he is happy to leave London
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 23, 2017 18:21:45 GMT
Ginge starting in the cup game tonight so not injured.
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Post by manulike on Aug 23, 2017 18:52:47 GMT
Ginge starting in the cup game tonight so not injured. Happy 34th birthday, James! |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Aug 23, 2017 20:26:54 GMT
Ginge starting in the cup game tonight so not injured. Happy 34th birthday, James! Stato!! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 23, 2017 20:41:47 GMT
Finally a clean sheet for West Ham... got a feeling Collins will be seeing a lot more game time from now on.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Aug 23, 2017 21:10:21 GMT
Finally a clean sheet for West Ham... got a feeling Collins will be seeing a lot more game time from now on. Always impressed me when I have seen him playing against Palace has been a rock on occasions. |
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Post by dai on Aug 24, 2017 11:23:33 GMT
Really don't get the hate on him by some fans. Yes he's slipped up a few occasions, but haven't all our players at some point?
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Post by iot on Aug 24, 2017 11:50:35 GMT
Really don't get the hate on him by some fans. Yes he's slipped up a few occasions, but haven't all our players at some point? From my perspective, he does have more mistakes in him than other defenders because he's more clumsy, but that's not the main point. The main thing holding him back is that he's not well-suited to international football. Continental refs aren't as lenient on his style of defending and he's not as good on the ball. Because we play with an extra defender, it's important for for them all to be competent on the ball. That's why I prefer sticking with Jazz than shifting Davies out and bringing Ginge in. |
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Post by dai on Aug 24, 2017 12:11:35 GMT
Really don't get the hate on him by some fans. Yes he's slipped up a few occasions, but haven't all our players at some point? From my perspective, he does have more mistakes in him than other defenders because he's more clumsy, but that's not the main point. The main thing holding him back is that he's not well-suited to international football. Continental refs aren't as lenient on his style of defending and he's not as good on the ball. Because we play with an extra defender, it's important for for them all to be competent on the ball. That's why I prefer sticking with Jazz than shifting Davies out and bringing Ginge in. Yeah that's all fair enough, and I agree with the points regarding being comfortable on the ball. However I recall a game where we were playing 4 at the back, with Chester out, and rather than bring in Collins, Coleman opted for Gunter at CB. Just a bit odd, and unfair imo. On another note, it's a bit of worry that we have no CB's coming through atm, Collins and Williams getting on a bit now. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 24, 2017 14:18:49 GMT
From my perspective, he does have more mistakes in him than other defenders because he's more clumsy, but that's not the main point. The main thing holding him back is that he's not well-suited to international football. Continental refs aren't as lenient on his style of defending and he's not as good on the ball. Because we play with an extra defender, it's important for for them all to be competent on the ball. That's why I prefer sticking with Jazz than shifting Davies out and bringing Ginge in. Yeah that's all fair enough, and I agree with the points regarding being comfortable on the ball. However I recall a game where we were playing 4 at the back, with Chester out, and rather than bring in Collins, Coleman opted for Gunter at CB. Just a bit odd, and unfair imo. On another note, it's a bit of worry that we have no CB's coming through atm, Collins and Williams getting on a bit now. We have Ampadu and Poole coming though at big clubs, as well as Jordan Williams, Tom Lockyer and Joe Walsh if needed, I'd say centre back is fairly solid for us |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 24, 2017 14:21:43 GMT
Not yet it isn't...out of those only Lockyer plays regular senior football. Morgan Fox is another option but he's in and out of the Sheff Wed team, who knows how his career will progress.
Maybe in 2-3 years Ampadu, Poole and Williams will be ready for the international stage but they seem far from it at the moment.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 24, 2017 22:42:25 GMT
We have Ampadu and Poole coming though at big clubs, as well as Jordan Williams, Tom Lockyer and Joe Walsh if needed, I'd say centre back is fairly solid for us Very very optimistic. Just listing players is not the same as identifying actual back up and quality. There's a grand total of ZERO caps in that list of players and about 5 squad call-ups between them. As for Ampadu and Poole "coming through". Really? They will be one of 40-50 similarly aged players at each club who will barely get a chance to shine. Chances of coming through are small, which is not to day they don't have talent. Being 16 at Chelsea isn't that big a deal frankly |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 25, 2017 15:36:16 GMT
We have Ampadu and Poole coming though at big clubs, as well as Jordan Williams, Tom Lockyer and Joe Walsh if needed, I'd say centre back is fairly solid for us Very very optimistic. Just listing players is not the same as identifying actual back up and quality. There's a grand total of ZERO caps in that list of players and about 5 squad call-ups between them. As for Ampadu and Poole "coming through". Really? They will be one of 40-50 similarly aged players at each club who will barely get a chance to shine. Chances of coming through are small, which is not to day they don't have talent. Being 16 at Chelsea isn't that big a deal frankly Lockyer and Walsh play consistent first team football at a decent level and its ridiculously pessimistic to say that Poole and Ampadu aren't coming through, both have impressed at lower levels and secured moves to big clubs which will benefit their careers through a higher standard of coaching and loan moves to decent clubs, before being sold to Watford for £20m in a few years |
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Post by dai on Aug 25, 2017 15:38:07 GMT
Very very optimistic. Just listing players is not the same as identifying actual back up and quality. There's a grand total of ZERO caps in that list of players and about 5 squad call-ups between them. As for Ampadu and Poole "coming through". Really? They will be one of 40-50 similarly aged players at each club who will barely get a chance to shine. Chances of coming through are small, which is not to day they don't have talent. Being 16 at Chelsea isn't that big a deal frankly and its ridiculously pessimistic to say that Poole and Ampadu aren't coming through, both have impressed at lower levels and secured moves to big clubs which will benefit their careers through a higher standard of coaching and loan moves to decent clubs, before being sold to Watford for £20m in a few years Another reason why we need to play more friendlies. If these are our main back ups atm, we need to give them more experience. What happens if we play a qualifier with Williams and Chester injured? |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 26, 2017 13:14:14 GMT
That MOTM performance in the week has got him back in the starting 11 today, where he belongs.
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Post by manulike on Nov 1, 2017 14:00:16 GMT
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Post by alarch on Nov 1, 2017 14:24:27 GMT
Yes, I saw that too, and yes a big loss from the squad. By the time of the next competitive matches in September next year he will be 35 so it makes sense that he should retire now. It will be a shame to see him go. He doesn't fit a more progressive style of play very well, but he's always given his all, and put in some commanding performances down the years.
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Post by mattyd on Nov 1, 2017 15:06:05 GMT
It's a shame to see the end of his Wales career. Always been a big fan, especially for his time at Cardiff.
I think his last game was the Euro Semi Final, so quite a way to finish!
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Post by ae15 on Nov 1, 2017 15:23:48 GMT
It's a shame to see the end of his Wales career. Always been a big fan, especially for his time at Cardiff. I think his last game was the Euro Semi Final, so quite a way to finish! Came on against Moldova I'm afraid. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 1, 2017 15:43:41 GMT
Has this been confirmed? Could just be paper talk.
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Post by zenith on Nov 1, 2017 23:52:15 GMT
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Post by vandenhauwe on Nov 2, 2017 9:06:25 GMT
Not for me always had a big mistake in him plus the amount of squads he withdrew from time to look to the future!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 10:12:21 GMT
Ramsey has more caps and he is 26.
For all the abuse Giggs received over his welsh efforts I think collins is lucky he isn't an attacking/exciting player that people want playing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 10:23:47 GMT
Cheers Ginge
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Post by 1gwaunview on Nov 2, 2017 11:15:41 GMT
Right time to step down at 34, and good to hear of his offer to help out in the event of an injury crisis.
A Wales career of hit and miss and sometimes questionable devotion, but always gave 100% when playing.
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Post by jonathandearth on Nov 2, 2017 11:53:05 GMT
As someone who doesn't believe that the concept of retiring from international football is acceptable, this is really disappointing.
I'm grateful for what he did for Wales - but disappointed that he's retired from Wales, although willing to keep on playing for West Ham.
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