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Post by rangers15 on Feb 11, 2021 9:23:03 GMT
Feb 10, 2021 22:13:26 GMT alarch said: but the Championship is his level right now. Bit harsh, Man City are a different beast to anybody else in the Prem. I think that might be about Cabango? Roberts could comfortably walk into a few premiership sides. |
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Post by alarch on Feb 11, 2021 11:37:01 GMT
Yeah, my comment was about Cabango. Roberts is certainly Premier League quality, but perhaps lower half rather than top half.
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Post by manulike on Feb 17, 2021 20:52:17 GMT
Our kid can sure use his head!
Another goal.
Are you watching, Mr Amps ;-)
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Post by alarch on Feb 17, 2021 23:06:36 GMT
Swansea were very poor tonight and the win was daylight robbery, but Roberts was the stand-out player even before his towering header (the second such goal against Forest this season from a 5'7" player) he was comfortably man of the match, mainly for his defensive showing. He pretty much singlehandedly prevented a Forest 3 on 1 break by some astute positioning. His character is immense.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 17, 2021 23:23:29 GMT
Swansea were very poor tonight and the win was daylight robbery, but Roberts was the stand-out player even before his towering header (the second such goal against Forest this season from a 5'7" player) he was comfortably man of the match, mainly for his defensive showing. He pretty much singlehandedly prevented a Forest 3 on 1 break by some astute positioning. His character is immense. Cementing himself as first choice RWB for this next camp |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 3, 2021 20:37:50 GMT
Just scored a cracking deft volley to equalise for Swansea, beating RND to the ball
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Post by manulike on Mar 3, 2021 22:15:12 GMT
Superb game tonight.
Could have easily scored another beauty as well.
Nailed on starter v Belgium
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Post by alarch on Mar 3, 2021 22:22:46 GMT
MOTM performance tonight, quite superb. Hopefully he'll go up with Swansea this season, but if not he's sure to be in the Premier League anyway.
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Post by dai on Mar 3, 2021 22:25:07 GMT
The emergence of Neco was the best thing that's happened to Connor, he's really taken his game up a notch over the past year.
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Post by manulike on Mar 3, 2021 22:32:28 GMT
The emergence of Neco was the best thing that's happened to Connor, he's really taken his game up a notch over the past year. Maybe. More than by a notch. He has improved practically every aspect of his game. His stamina is sublime, his first touch, with and without the ball is great.
His heading is on par with ronaldo and his throw-ins are better than Vaulks'
If Gunts doesn't make it to 100, our Connor certainly will!
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 3, 2021 23:46:06 GMT
He's obviously worked incredibly hard, there's being a good athlete, but his work rate is just something else. For him to run that most every single game without fail, and to not miss a single game of this season is ridiculous. With someone with that attitude and professionalism, he'll go a long way for Cymru.
Best player on the pitch by some distance tonight, the biggest goal threat, the main creator, the best presser and today the best defender as well. Shame he didn't get the second, would have been some goal.
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 3, 2021 23:53:20 GMT
The emergence of Neco was the best thing that's happened to Connor, he's really taken his game up a notch over the past year. I don't think it has had anything to do with Neco! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 4, 2021 1:23:09 GMT
The emergence of Neco was the best thing that's happened to Connor, he's really taken his game up a notch over the past year. I don't think it has had anything to do with Neco! I think it partly does, a bit of pressure to win his place back for Cymru surely helps with psychological motivation Credit to him, as Neco seemed to be our break out star in the Nations League, but I don't think there is any question now the Connor will be our starting RB/RWB If Swansea don't go up this season I'm sure there will be interest from the Premier League. Everton could do with a new RWB with Seamus Coleman ageing and not really having an orthodox back up this season. Perhaps his stamina would appeal to someone like Bielsa, who has this trait as a high priority in his players. Southampton also seem like they could do with a new RB. Anyone else in the league either has good options in that position, or is at risk of relegation. Hopefully the Swans go up and he can play in the top flight with them |
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Post by alarch on Mar 4, 2021 10:48:07 GMT
The emergence of Neco was the best thing that's happened to Connor, he's really taken his game up a notch over the past year. I don't think it has had anything to do with Neco! It may well be a minor factor, but a much bigger factor is Cooper's switch to a wing back formation, which has brought the best out in Connor. That, and the fact that Ayew isn't constantly ignoring his overlapping runs. Connor's really benefited from the wing-back to wing-back aspect of Swansea's play. I'm not sure that we have a player in the Cymru set up that can perform a similar role to Bidwell/Manning in the Swansea one. Perhaps Bale drifting left can find Roberts bombing in from the right. |
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Post by alarch on Apr 13, 2021 21:53:01 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 13, 2021 22:00:30 GMT
Was he being rested originally? |
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Post by iot on Apr 13, 2021 22:06:29 GMT
Was he being rested originally? No, he was in poor form for the Swans leading up to the international break (after a fantastic season up til then), poor performances for us, and then another couple of poor games for Swansea after the break in the losses to birmingham and preston. So Cooper's moved to a back 4, I don't think he fancies Roberts as much as a full back, and Roberts has been on the bench the last two games which has coincided with much better performances and results. It looks like they switched back to wing backs when he came on because he replaced Routledge. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 13, 2021 22:15:22 GMT
I wouldn't say he was in poor form for the Swans going in to the international break. The whole side was, but everything was still going through him and he was definitely our most dangerous player.
He made a mistake against Birmingham for the penalty, and there was the red card against Czechia, but I don't think he's performed badly over the course of any game. He's always been working hard, making runs and causing problems which can't be said of most of the Swans side.
There might be some truth in that tactically he prefers Naughton as a more defensive minded right-back, but I think it was a case of him being rested vs Millwall initially (having played every minute of the first 39 games) and then not wanting to change a winning team that performed very well.
When he came on we didn't change system, he came on as a right-winger, but drifted out to the left-wing for the goal.
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Post by iot on Apr 13, 2021 22:40:32 GMT
I wouldn't say he was in poor form for the Swans going in to the international break. The whole side was, but everything was still going through him and he was definitely our most dangerous player. He made a mistake against Birmingham for the penalty, and there was the red card against Czechia, but I don't think he's performed badly over the course of any game. He's always been working hard, making runs and causing problems which can't be said of most of the Swans side. There might be some truth in that tactically he prefers Naughton as a more defensive minded right-back, but I think it was a case of him being rested vs Millwall initially (having played every minute of the first 39 games) and then not wanting to change a winning team that performed very well. When he came on we didn't change system, he came on as a right-winger, but drifted out to the left-wing for the goal. I disagree with some of that. From some of the Swans games I watched pre the internationals, I felt he was poor. Lots of energy as always, but not productive at all, and that's how I see the vast majority of his Wales performances too. For us, he's always up and down the wing, but his crossing is usually very poor and he's not creative at all. But then with Swans this season, at one point he was in the top 5 in the whole championship for most chances created. So he obviously can do it, but for whatever reason it hasn't quite come off for Wales. Aside from the red card, I thought he was fairly poor over the two games. Again, he didn't offer much at all (I felt Neco offered much more on the left), he wasn't particularly good or progressive in possession, and he had a few poor defensive moments. For the goal where he slipped, everyone seems to have put that down to bad luck, but I think it was entirely avoidable - he slipped because he was scrambling after letting Hazard get in front of him. He did have a role in our goal though, I'll give him that, but I just want to see the type of cross he produced today far more often in a Wales shirt. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Apr 13, 2021 22:54:28 GMT
I wouldn't say he was in poor form for the Swans going in to the international break. The whole side was, but everything was still going through him and he was definitely our most dangerous player. He made a mistake against Birmingham for the penalty, and there was the red card against Czechia, but I don't think he's performed badly over the course of any game. He's always been working hard, making runs and causing problems which can't be said of most of the Swans side. There might be some truth in that tactically he prefers Naughton as a more defensive minded right-back, but I think it was a case of him being rested vs Millwall initially (having played every minute of the first 39 games) and then not wanting to change a winning team that performed very well. When he came on we didn't change system, he came on as a right-winger, but drifted out to the left-wing for the goal. I disagree with some of that. From some of the Swans games I watched pre the internationals, I felt he was poor. Lots of energy as always, but not productive at all, and that's how I see the vast majority of his Wales performances too. For us, he's always up and down the wing, but his crossing is usually very poor and he's not creative at all. But then with Swans this season, at one point he was in the top 5 in the whole championship for most chances created. So he obviously can do it, but for whatever reason it hasn't quite come off for Wales. Aside from the red card, I thought he was fairly poor over the two games. Again, he didn't offer much at all (I felt Neco offered much more on the left), he wasn't particularly good or progressive in possession, and he had a few poor defensive moments. For the goal where he slipped, everyone seems to have put that down to bad luck, but I think it was entirely avoidable - he slipped because he was scrambling after letting Hazard get in front of him. He did have a role in our goal though, I'll give him that, but I just want to see the type of cross he produced today far more often in a Wales shirt. The whole side was, but he's the last player I'd be dropping for those performances. He had plenty of good games individually there, and created more than anyone else in the side by some distance. He's still second in the Championship for most chances created, behind only Emi Buendia. I'd definitely put it down to bad luck. He's going to win the header comfortably before he slips, and I don't think he's slipped because he was scrambling, he's slipped for the same reason everyone else (including De Bruyne) slipped that day in that the pitch was terrible. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 13, 2021 23:27:21 GMT
On club form he deserves to be ahead of Neco. But there's something about translating his game to international football that, for me, hasn't quite clicked yet. He hasn't really ever been poor for Cymru but I can't honestly point to any stand out games he's had (debut aside). Connor just doesn't seem to have the same knack for international football that Neco does - I can't really say why, and this could change, but I'd say Neco has looked better than him in a Cymru shirt ever since his debut, even though Connor is having a better season at club level
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 14, 2021 6:36:14 GMT
On club form he deserves to be ahead of Neco. But there's something about translating his game to international football that, for me, hasn't quite clicked yet. He hasn't really ever been poor for Cymru but I can't honestly point to any stand out games he's had (debut aside). Connor just doesn't seem to have the same knack for international football that Neco does - I can't really say why, and this could change, but I'd say Neco has looked better than him in a Cymru shirt ever since his debut, even though Connor is having a better season at club level He played very well against Ireland in the 4-1 and notched a cracking goal. I'm guessing you maybe meant that as his debut though, as it was his first start. |
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Post by Albert on Apr 14, 2021 7:15:19 GMT
On club form he deserves to be ahead of Neco. But there's something about translating his game to international football that, for me, hasn't quite clicked yet. He hasn't really ever been poor for Cymru but I can't honestly point to any stand out games he's had (debut aside). Connor just doesn't seem to have the same knack for international football that Neco does - I can't really say why, and this could change, but I'd say Neco has looked better than him in a Cymru shirt ever since his debut, even though Connor is having a better season at club level He played very well against Ireland in the 4-1 and notched a cracking goal. I'm guessing you maybe meant that as his debut though, as it was his first start. Great goal youtu.be/iZa1tbeHhek |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Apr 14, 2021 7:32:57 GMT
Great player and nailed on starter for me. Love the energy he brings to the team. Will be amazed if he doesn't end up in the prem next season if Swansea don't make it.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Apr 14, 2021 7:38:50 GMT
Hes tired as hes been playing quite a lot of games over the last 3/4 months.
The way he plays doesn't help him as he's like a lurcher up and down the pitch so it is surprising that he's tired.
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Post by alarch on Apr 14, 2021 10:58:11 GMT
Cooper has said, after the previous game, that Roberts was being rested, and that's great news for Cymru because he has looked a bit jaded of late. It's a compliment to his contribution to the Swansea cause that he's been specifically targetted by the opposition, as most of Swansea's attacking play goes down his flank. But he's been fantastic for Swansea this season, for me the player of the season.
I think the criticism of him in a Cymru short surprises me. Perhaps he hasn't quite replicated his club form on a consistent basis, but he's still made an excellent contribution.
Roberts is still way ahead of Neco overall in my opinion, although that's likely to change. Yes, Neco's crossing is excellent, but he's positionally suspect in defence, something that Belgium exploited, with most of their crosses coming in from his side. Neco will have to improve defensively to match Roberts' contribution to the Cymru cause.
Roberts' head-height crossing is a bit hit and miss, but he has improved this season. Something that's developed in a Swans shirt is an ability to hit lovely dinked crosses with lots of curl, delivered with a side-foot action. We've seen something similar from Dan James on a few occasions in a Cymru shirt. Roberts is also good at cut-backs, something we need to exploit more.
The most impressive thing for me about Roberts is his dynamism, constantly on the move, constantly looking for one-twos. He stands out in the Swansea side in that regard, which is frustating at times, given the general lack of that quality in Cooper's side. His immediate impact last night perfectly illustrated the point.
Perhaps Roberts' more limited impact at international level is at least partially down to the way we're set up to play. To get the best out of him we need to be dynamic and play a short passing game, and one-twos. Then he'll really shine.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 14, 2021 13:25:22 GMT
On club form he deserves to be ahead of Neco. But there's something about translating his game to international football that, for me, hasn't quite clicked yet. He hasn't really ever been poor for Cymru but I can't honestly point to any stand out games he's had (debut aside). Connor just doesn't seem to have the same knack for international football that Neco does - I can't really say why, and this could change, but I'd say Neco has looked better than him in a Cymru shirt ever since his debut, even though Connor is having a better season at club level He played very well against Ireland in the 4-1 and notched a cracking goal. I'm guessing you maybe meant that as his debut though, as it was his first start. Yes that is the game I was referring to. Forgot that wasn't his debut |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 21:18:25 GMT
I'd die to have all the welsh players with half the make up of this guy,if we did we'd fuck them all up,guys a machine
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Post by cadno on Apr 14, 2021 22:08:55 GMT
When it comes down to defneding I would rank our Right backs:
1. Gunter 8/10
2. Roberts 7/10
3. Neco 6/10
And in terms of attacking
1. Neco 8/10
2. Roberts 7.5/10
3. Gunter 6/10
I reckon Roberts should be our first choice RB, especially in a back 5! Neco has shown he's a good left back too
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Post by johnoster on Apr 19, 2021 14:09:00 GMT
Is Connor banned for the first game of the Euros?
Can't find out anywhere online.
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