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Post by welshwizard79 on Jan 18, 2012 22:19:46 GMT
What? Why? I hate all this we are doomed I've lost hope, its gunna be a disaster bolox. At the end of the day hardly any of us wanted speed to get the job, and we wanted him and Ray out after 3 games!! Give Coleman a chance I think he will do a decent job! It's the typical reaction I've seen for many years by not a majority but alot of welsh fans mate. |
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Post by georgetm1 on Jan 18, 2012 23:00:31 GMT
I was totally against Speed getting the job but I was completely proved wrong. I actually think Coleman could do a decent job for us and he will get my backing 100%.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Jan 18, 2012 23:22:06 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 19, 2012 0:04:07 GMT
i'm in that thread backing Speed too. as for whats changed since coleman was last touted as manager the answer is nothing,nothing has changed. Speed was only in the job for 12 months so when he passed away we were left with more or less the same candidates as last time. Coleman was obviously second choice to Speed and now that Speed isn't here they have gone for Coleman. |
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Post by idiot on Jan 19, 2012 2:45:35 GMT
the words withdrawals,retirements and clashes spring to mind
hopefully im wrong and everyone can pull together and keep the momentum going
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Post by rushlegend on Jan 19, 2012 10:27:37 GMT
We have a real good squad right now with good backroom staff etc i think they are more important to us than any manager. Good backroom staff?  ? Not now mate, Dutch Ray is going when everybody on here wanted him desperately to stay, now Coleman is going to be appointed it's like "We don't need Ray now" Mark my words Coleman is an awful coach as he was a player and the FAW are going to regret this appointment - this is going to be the start of player withdrawals starting with Ramsey from here on in!!! "If it ain't broke why fix it" was his comments on Sky!!!! It has already broke now Chris with Dutch Ray leaving!!!! Disaster time i'm afraid!!! The FAW never ever learn from past mistakes!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 10:44:53 GMT
We have a real good squad right now with good backroom staff etc i think they are more important to us than any manager. Good backroom staff? ? Not now mate, Dutch Ray is going when everybody on here wanted him desperately to stay, now Coleman is going to be appointed it's like "We don't need Ray now" Mark my words Coleman is an awful coach as he was a player and the FAW are going to regret this appointment - this is going to be the start of player withdrawals starting with Ramsey from here on in!!! "If it ain't broke why fix it" was his comments on Sky!!!! It has already broke now Chris with Dutch Ray leaving!!!! Disaster time i'm afraid!!! The FAW never ever learn from past mistakes!!! He hasn't even started the job yet and he has already deceived the players and the fans on Dutch Ray if these reports and ray's twitter is to be believed. It's a complete and utter disaster. Agree with Idiot - clashes, withdrawels and the like to ensue. How many hands as golden as this has a new welsh manager ever been dealt? Never as good in my memory and he will fritter it all away with alarming speed. RIP indeed. |
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 10:45:53 GMT
agree totally!
Any manager needs the players on board to succeed and i think we've lost them before we have even started because of this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 10:54:00 GMT
“It’s a stupid man who goes in there and takes the job, whether it’s me or anyone else, and changes everything."
Chris Coleman (15/01/12)
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Post by geraint on Jan 19, 2012 11:01:00 GMT
Good backroom staff? ? Not now mate, Dutch Ray is going when everybody on here wanted him desperately to stay, now Coleman is going to be appointed it's like "We don't need Ray now" Mark my words Coleman is an awful coach as he was a player and the FAW are going to regret this appointment - this is going to be the start of player withdrawals starting with Ramsey from here on in!!! "If it ain't broke why fix it" was his comments on Sky!!!! It has already broke now Chris with Dutch Ray leaving!!!! Disaster time i'm afraid!!! The FAW never ever learn from past mistakes!!! Absolutely. |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jan 19, 2012 11:07:57 GMT
Lol a disaster because he might get rid of one man, the same mine that we used to call mad Ray and say whats he know about football ect ect.........NO
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 11:42:57 GMT
yeh but its speed, roden and now ray gone. Even after what all the players have said.
Ricketts was really bigging up ray on twitter last night and also williams asked for continuity but they have been ignored.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jan 19, 2012 11:53:28 GMT
I see ya point mate but the players need to put up and shut up now and play for the country not throw the dummy because things have changed! We still have a great squad and a good chance of finally achieving something
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 12:21:12 GMT
yeh true but its just a different world now where players need to be molly cuddled as thats how they have been brought up within the youth set ups.
Its something speed talked about in his sports science analysis. Sad state though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 12:33:58 GMT
The press conference is truly depressing.
I would have thought they would have had the coaching set up agreed and in place before the press conference - they could have presented a unified front to progress everything forward - now the impending fall out between CC and RV will take place under the public gaze - he basically said KS will probably be coming in but he hasn't even spoken to RV yet!
Already, it's a complete shambles.
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Post by stu on Jan 19, 2012 12:40:47 GMT
Dutch Ray is off on one of his many jaunts around the world doing conferences and guest speaking. Chris Coleman is in Wales speaking to the FAW about taking over the job.
I like Ray but if the two of them haven't spoken to each other then it's hardly Colemans fault.
"Hello Ray, yeah it's Chris. Chris Coleman. Yeah, we're doing a press conference today any chance you could come down to Cardiff instead of flying to Dubai?"
Not going to happen is it. Let's just wait for Dutch Ray to announce to the world whether he is or isn't still on board.
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 12:40:57 GMT
pretty safe to say if we lose Ray now we lose bellamy too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 12:48:58 GMT
Dutch Ray is off on one of his many jaunts around the world doing conferences and guest speaking. Chris Coleman is in Wales speaking to the FAW about taking over the job. I like Ray but if the two of them haven't spoken to each other then it's hardly Colemans fault. "Hello Ray, yeah it's Chris. Chris Coleman. Yeah, we're doing a press conference today any chance you could come down to Cardiff instead of flying to Dubai?" Not going to happen is it. Let's just wait for Dutch Ray to announce to the world whether he is or isn't still on board. Could and should have simply picked up the phone. |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 19, 2012 13:26:39 GMT
pretty safe to say if we lose Ray now we lose bellamy too Can you expand on this? |
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 13:37:59 GMT
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 13:40:27 GMT
CC: "I spoke to Bellamy last night. He came back for Gary and I hope he stays. We need him
Doesn't fill me with confidence
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jan 19, 2012 13:41:31 GMT
A close source revealed ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 13:51:11 GMT
NJ, Baresi, like I said last week, I do not want Coleman as much as you do not, but all you can do is give him the support and lets see how it goes! Here's highlights of it's entirety. Begins from twenty two mins in. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQC1WzT1mg |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 19, 2012 13:54:48 GMT
Are you taking that article seriously? |
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 13:57:19 GMT
yeh true mate, I hope i'm proved wrong!
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Post by njdragon on Jan 19, 2012 13:58:16 GMT
Are you taking that article seriously? Not so much but i do believe what i have written previous is valid. |
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Post by hailo1 on Jan 19, 2012 14:00:31 GMT
Congratulations to Chris Coleman on getting the job. I think Chris has got a great opportunity with the current squad. Using a horse racing phrase - "Good horses make good trainers." We've got the best squad of players that I can remember.
I hope we keep hold of Ray as it seems he has helped with players turning up, not withdrawing from squads etc, also the players seem to like him.
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Post by yrarglwyddlucan on Jan 19, 2012 14:03:54 GMT
I was at the Press Conference and will report later. It was all rather worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 15:05:19 GMT
Nobody has mentioned Big Nev's interview on the Radio Wales phone-in, He said the FAW should have waited until at least AFTER the Costa Rica game to appoint a new manager, this game is to celebrate Gary Speed, why do we need a new manager anyway? (Nev's words) I totally agree with him
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Post by georgetm1 on Jan 19, 2012 15:15:04 GMT
The more time the manager has with the players the better. We can't let the world pass us by while grieving for Speed. Coleman said himself that he will be in the background during the Costa Rica game.
Coleman wasn't my first choice, but whats done is done and we have to look forwards not backwards to what could have been.
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