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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 15:10:44 GMT
if coleman was replaced by hartson would dylan ebenezar and malcolm allen be part of the coaching team?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 17:37:39 GMT
Like I said, re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 17:43:33 GMT
almost as short sighted as you with your ray bashing and endorsement of colemans appointment I don't think I have ever endorsed his appointment, I take a pragmatic view based on the fact that nobody else piped up and said they wanted the job, so Coleman got it by default. Well, apart from Ray and as you don't like PR disasters I'm sure you of all people could understand the FAW ruling him out based on his very public and disgraceful political wrangling immediately after Speed's death. Of course if Lagerback had said he was still interested then I would be poked right off right now with the FAW for appointing Coleman. But instead, Coleman wasn't the best man for the job he was the only man. And in all honesty I think he has done the right thing, or at least tried to, he has been hamstrung by a shocking set of fixtures in order to perform a very difficult transition with players who have either been out of form or couldn't give a toss- so I have considerable sympathy for him. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 17, 2012 18:02:27 GMT
if coleman was replaced by hartson would dylan ebenezar and malcolm allen be part of the coaching team? And that other underrated coach Iwan Roberts ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 17, 2012 18:11:27 GMT
All talk, the FAW won't act they are a bunch of incompetant old fools.
How can anyone sane come out with this
"Chris is a very good manager. He's been very successful in the past".
A change of tactics/style for Coleman is reverting t his style of football & its called even more hoofball (old Wimbledon style)
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Post by idiot on Sept 17, 2012 18:31:53 GMT
one of his biggest mistakes was saying he was going to carry on what speed had started,it came from a good place obviously but clearly he doesnt know how to implement the kind of game speed produced
id rather he go with what he knows,if that means knocking the ball long then so be it,if he goes down then he goes down using his methods rather than trying to coach a method he doesnt have a clue about
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 17, 2012 18:43:26 GMT
one of his biggest mistakes was saying he was going to carry on what speed had started,it came from a good place obviously but clearly he doesnt know how to implement the kind of game speed produced id rather he go with what he knows,if that means knocking the ball long then so be it,if he goes down then he goes down using his methods rather than trying to coach a method he doesnt have a clue about Fair comment, but Coleman said/stated he had been playing this style at that Larissa, when he got the job, im sure it is somewhere in his interviews. I found this he said "I love this philosophy of playing. I love what’s been happening at Swansea City and I’ve tried to implement the same in Greece with Larissa"So he got the job by telling lies at his interview & that is grounds for instant dismissal |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 18:51:05 GMT
this is exactly what has happened. its the faw who have really failed us again though. have they really got welsh football's best interests at heart or are they simply out of their depth and not up to the job?
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Post by idiot on Sept 17, 2012 19:02:38 GMT
one of his biggest mistakes was saying he was going to carry on what speed had started,it came from a good place obviously but clearly he doesnt know how to implement the kind of game speed produced id rather he go with what he knows,if that means knocking the ball long then so be it,if he goes down then he goes down using his methods rather than trying to coach a method he doesnt have a clue about Fair comment, but Coleman said/stated he had been playing this style at that Larissa, when he got the job, im sure it is somewhere in his interviews. So he got the job by telling lies at his interview & that is grounds for instant dismissal i have some sympathy for him,imagine if he'd have done his first press conference and stated he was going to rip up everything speed had started and do things his way,he would have got everyone on his back before he'd even taken a session with the team he's tried to carry on what speed started but it doesnt seem like he knows how to implement it,so lets see what he can do with methods he's familiar with i have my doubts it will work for him,it might even upset the primma donna's. he needs the players help,i think a lot of them are still coming to grips with all that went on with speed..they need to snap out of it |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 17, 2012 19:02:52 GMT
this is exactly what has happened. its the faw who have really failed us again though. have they really got welsh football's best interests at heart or are they simply out of their depth and not up to the job? Both |
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Post by Tim P on Sept 17, 2012 20:21:22 GMT
Sounds like Coleman is being lined up for the push... Indeed. Ominous from his point of view. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 20:27:33 GMT
The FAW chose well with Speed though, didn't they? Didn't hear anyone complaining about the old FA-Dub when Speed won a few games.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 17, 2012 20:47:00 GMT
Fair comment, but Coleman said/stated he had been playing this style at that Larissa, when he got the job, im sure it is somewhere in his interviews. So he got the job by telling lies at his interview & that is grounds for instant dismissal i have some sympathy for him,imagine if he'd have done his first press conference and stated he was going to rip up everything speed had started and do things his way,he would have got everyone on his back before he'd even taken a session with the team he's tried to carry on what speed started but it doesnt seem like he knows how to implement it,so lets see what he can do with methods he's familiar with i have my doubts it will work for him,it might even upset the primma donna's. he needs the players help,i think a lot of them are still coming to grips with all that went on with speed..they need to snap out of it Aye its a hard act t follow Speed,& the players should take some of the blame. But he is the manager & he brought his coaching team together, so he takes the blame for performance Anyone heard about this? "He couldn't make a press conference the morning after the Speed memorial game apparently due to alcohol. I'm told the FAW are aware of his problems and are keeping a close eye on things". |
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Post by idiot on Sept 17, 2012 21:17:49 GMT
Shocking lack of respect for the faw and speed if true...he often looks like he's hung over doesn't he
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 17, 2012 21:34:20 GMT
"He couldn't make a press conference the morning after the Speed memorial game apparently due to alcohol. I'm told the FAW are aware of his problems and are keeping a close eye on things".
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Sept 17, 2012 21:54:25 GMT
Im sure they wouldn't of employed him if he was getting half cut every night...its bollocks!
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Sept 17, 2012 22:10:52 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 18, 2012 6:59:12 GMT
if coleman was replaced by hartson would dylan ebenezar and malcolm allen be part of the coaching team? And that other underrated coach Iwan Roberts ;D ;D ;D There must be room for Wayne Phillips surely? |
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Post by llannerch on Sept 18, 2012 8:05:25 GMT
would dylan ebenezar and malcolm allen be part of the coaching team? Saw Ebeneser after the Belguim game in the late 80s yellow hummel kit. Very nice indeed....the shirt not Ebeneser |
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Post by llannerch on Sept 18, 2012 8:06:00 GMT
And that other underrated coach Iwan Roberts ;D ;D ;D There must be room for Wayne Phillips surely? It's Waynne |
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Post by blogdroed on Sept 18, 2012 15:18:26 GMT
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Post by scotlandfan on Sept 18, 2012 16:28:13 GMT
Two under pressure managers facing off against each other next month then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 16:40:56 GMT
^^^ just makes the campaign to smear Coleman look even sadder.
Whatever his limited abilities as a manager, he has taken the job at a difficult time with the best of intentions and in no way deserves the character assassination he is getting imo.
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Post by scotlandfan on Sept 18, 2012 17:03:11 GMT
Seems very quick for you guys to turn on Coleman.
The doubts in Levein started from Prague onwards really, but it's taken until now for the Scottish media to start questioning him, so about 10 competitive matches.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 18, 2012 17:47:50 GMT
^^^ just makes the campaign to smear Coleman look even sadder. Whatever his limited abilities as a manager, he has taken the job at a difficult time with the best of intentions and in no way deserves the character assassination he is getting imo. I agree, to an extent. But are you seriously saying that you think Coleman (and his history) comes across as an intelligent, forward thinking coach? In other news, Toshack just described Brendan Rodgers as 'english' on Revisita De La Liga. |
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Post by oojibooji on Sept 18, 2012 18:08:08 GMT
In other news, Toshack just described Brendan Rodgers as 'english' on Revisita De La Liga. Did you like Toshack's Nike trainers? |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 18, 2012 18:39:46 GMT
Actually blogdroed I seen it on here & thought I would share it & I never actually said it was true did I? But you know more about Coleman's drinking habits don't you, living 300 odd miles away in the wilds www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92721&sid=08073012ed733ed2367b4fedd73dfe14C'mon you are going t support the current regime ain't you no matter how poor & mediocre they are especially as your mate & fellow sgorio member John Hartson is part of it & stop being a lackey for dylan ebenezar and malcolm allen views on here. The post of Welsh football manager & coaching team is becoming like the organisation you undertake work for that S4C, a closed shop & a haven for jobs for the boys. Seems to me that the Welsh media have an agenda against anyone not Welsh becoming Wales manager I'll be up in Bangor in two weeks instead of being an internet warrior & hiding behind a computer be a man not a mouse and put your comments across in person t me aye I look forward t meeting you ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Tim P on Sept 18, 2012 18:53:51 GMT
In other news, Toshack just described Brendan Rodgers as 'english' on Revisita De La Liga. Did you like Toshack's Nike trainers? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I did notice them! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 19:27:10 GMT
^^^ just makes the campaign to smear Coleman look even sadder. Whatever his limited abilities as a manager, he has taken the job at a difficult time with the best of intentions and in no way deserves the character assassination he is getting imo. I agree, to an extent. But are you seriously saying that you think Coleman (and his history) comes across as an intelligent, forward thinking coach? In other news, Toshack just described Brendan Rodgers as 'english' on Revisita De La Liga. I'm not necessarily defending his history and I think the FAW are taking the piss when they say hes been successful....However from where I am sitting I think hes been treated very unfairly so far in the Wales job and has been dealt a shit hand at the same time so I will speak up for him. Remember its the FAW who employed him. I recall his Fulham side playing decent football at times. I'll admit I didn't see much of his Coventry side. |
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Post by blogdroed on Sept 18, 2012 19:50:11 GMT
Where I live is irrelevant being as how I managed to disprove the accusation left by yourself by using facts i.e. fact 1: there was no press conference scheduled for the day after the Costa Rica game (there never is the day after a match) and fact 2: Coleman was at the St David's Day parade as proven by the picture gallery I posted. I have no inclination to follow a link to another set of accusations on another messageboard to perfectly honest with you. C'mon you are going t support the current regime ain't you no matter how poor & mediocre they are especially as your mate & fellow sgorio member John Hartson is part of it & stop being a lackey for dylan ebenezar and malcolm allen views on here. The post of Welsh football manager & coaching team is becoming like the organisation you undertake work for that S4C, a closed shop & a haven for jobs for the boys. Seems to me that the Welsh media have an agenda against anyone not Welsh becoming Wales manager You really are building a straw man. Show me where I am defending the management set up "no matter how poor & mediocre they are" ... oh, hang on, you can't can you, because I didn't. Your usual nonsensical comments about Sgorio, Dylan Ebenezer (about whom you seem to have a very unhealthy obsession) and Malcolm Allen are both insulting and irrelevant. Am I not entitled to post as myself? My views must obviously be those of some of my colleagues with whom you have some strange beef, musn't they? Are the views you post the views of your colleagues? Your almost obligatory insinuation about S4C being a closed closed shop is also irrelevant - being as how I don't even work for S4C - as well as being without a shred of evidence nor any basis in fact. Did they once refuse you a job, that's the only reason I can think for you to want to bring them up each time I post. I'll be up in Bangor in two weeks instead of being an internet warrior & hiding behind a computer be a man not a mouse and put your comments across in person t me aye I look forward t meeting you ;D ;D ;D How ironic that you know exactly who I am (as I've never once trtied to hide the fact) yet I'm the one "hiding behind a computer". It's also ironic that it's my professionalism which is called into question on this thread, yet I'm the "cyber warrior"? To be honest with you, I don't have the slightest inclination of wanting to meet you, you don't really come accross as the kind of person with whom I'd want to have a pint, so I'm not sure why you think I'd want to. I'm not sure, either, which "comments" you would rather I put to you to your face. I came on this thread to correct an insinuation which you had left hanging regarding Chris Coleman and the morning after the Costa Rica match ... I'm sorry if my FACTS didn't help you. ... and once again, I ask myself why I bothered posting here. |
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