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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 7:44:45 GMT
You're all just jealous because you never became Sir Ifor of Rhyl.
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Post by llannerch on May 22, 2017 12:03:18 GMT
People lining up to become members or part of the order of the British empire turns my stomach to be honest. The honours system should be modernised and that nonsense should have stayed in the nineteenth century, along with royal family and all the pomp and media fawning that goes with them. Would have loved to see Coleman tell them where to shove it - instead he's gleefully accepted it and made some cringeworthy joke about not being brave enough to ask Charles who he supports - he's English so who does he think?! I know I'm probably in the minority here but I really hate all the sucking up to them. I'm the same, never liked the royal family and although I would have liked to have seen Coleman to shove it, it's his personal choice and you can't begrudge him for it imo. I agree with this. If it puts lead in his pencil then fair enough, hope he enjoys it. But would have preferred him to say no thanks
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Post by manulike on May 24, 2017 23:28:41 GMT
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Post by zenith on May 25, 2017 7:17:14 GMT
He has said time and time again he and his wife want to go abroad after Wales, just can't see it
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 7:43:26 GMT
The exploded washing machine whilst at Sociedad will live with me for life. Awesome stuff.
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2017 19:53:38 GMT
The exploded washing machine whilst at Sociedad will live with me for life. Awesome stuff. Pray, tell!
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Post by ontheroadagain on May 25, 2017 20:01:52 GMT
The exploded washing machine whilst at Sociedad will live with me for life. Awesome stuff. Pray, tell! You mean you don't know!
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2017 20:05:37 GMT
I am sure I could Google it, but, no. Havent heard that one...
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Post by gwernybwch on May 26, 2017 7:30:34 GMT
The exploded washing machine whilst at Sociedad will live with me for life. Awesome stuff. That was a cracker, although in the guide of how to cover up extramarital affairs, I much prefer the "I've lost my passport" excuse......
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 7:45:40 GMT
You're pulling my leg, surely? He was late for a press conference at Sociedad and blamed having to wait in for a plumber because his washing machine had exploded. It turned out he'd been out clubbing the night before and had slept in.
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Post by gwernybwch on May 26, 2017 13:41:42 GMT
You're pulling my leg, surely? He was late for a press conference at Sociedad and blamed having to wait in for a plumber because his washing machine had exploded. It turned out he'd been out clubbing the night before and had slept in. But whose bed had he slept in that was the question! The lost my passport thing was just before Macedonia away. The word on the street at the time was that it was another excuse to cover up what he had been up in his private life shall we say.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 19:13:14 GMT
I fell in love hundreds of times in one weekend in Malaga such was the attractiveness of the local girls.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 29, 2017 15:36:05 GMT
Didnt do too bad in the end huh
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Post by superunknown on Jun 29, 2017 20:15:48 GMT
Didnt do too bad in the end huh It's a funny old game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 7:53:14 GMT
I'll hold my hands up here and admit I didn't want him. I though he'd had a decent spell at Fulham but that's about it. The awesome job he has done with Wales (after taking over in difficult circumstances) has reinvented Cookie.
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Post by biwmares on Jul 11, 2017 21:05:14 GMT
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Post by toshfan on Jul 12, 2017 8:52:41 GMT
Well worth noting that the Welsh Government has utilised the popularity of Chris Coleman to launch its plan for a million Welsh speakers by 2050: This is worth reflecting on for a host of reasons e.g. how far Welsh Football has come, how popular Chris Coleman is in Wales, the contribution that the FAW and Ian Gwyn Hughes have made towards the promotion of the language etc. And, here is an article about it: nation.cymru/2017/part-of-who-we-are-chris-coleman-endorses-2050-language-plan/Da iawn Chris, IGH a CPG. Iaith Pawb yn wir!
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Post by cymroircarn on Jul 12, 2017 9:08:54 GMT
Cytuno - da iawn!!
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jul 12, 2017 9:14:56 GMT
A third of the population? Dont see that happening.
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Post by iot on Jul 12, 2017 10:51:21 GMT
A third of the population? Dont see that happening. It's ambitious, but with the right support it's achievable. Positively, a recent Wales Governance Centre poll showed that most (think it was around two-thirds) support Government intervention to promote the language including around a third supporting "radical measures" to do so. This isn't all that radical, it's mostly about increasing Welsh medium education provision to meet demand.
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Post by alarch on Jul 12, 2017 11:25:53 GMT
A third of the population? Dont see that happening. It's ambitious, but with the right support it's achievable. Positively, a recent Wales Governance Centre poll showed that most (think it was around two-thirds) support Government intervention to promote the language including around a third supporting "radical measures" to do so. This isn't all that radical, it's mostly about increasing Welsh medium education provision to meet demand. The last point here is critical to this being achievable. If the Welsh Government were trying to foist the language on an unwilling population they would have an uphill struggle - but there's plenty of evidence that demand isn't being sated. There will be challenges ahead with regard to recruiting teachers with the requisite skills - but nothing that can't be overcome.
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Post by toshfan on Jul 12, 2017 15:08:41 GMT
The last point here is critical to this being achievable. If the Welsh Government were trying to foist the language on an unwilling population they would have an uphill struggle - but there's plenty of evidence that demand isn't being sated. There will be challenges ahead with regard to recruiting teachers with the requisite skills - but nothing that can't be overcome. I read a fellow Welsh language advocate say on twitter this morning that, with population growth, the target is not ambitious. I disagree with him. It is a good stretch target and ambitious. There is a lot that will need to happen, especially in northeast and southeast Wales to reach the target. Here in Barry, there was tremendous growth in demand for Welsh medium education but this plateaued but I am hearing some positive stuff about next year's primary school intake. It fascinates me that more than half of my son's football squad attend Welsh medium schools. Only myself and one mother speak it amongst the parents. The demand in Cardiff continues to grow and be an extraordinary story! I spent some time on twitter and facebook posting responses to some very hostile comments from Welsh people about the announcement. Some of the comments were just unpleasant & ignorant. Others were based on fear. There is work to do regarding the latter. But, my experience, in the last year in Barry is that there is a lot of goodwill towards the language. The standards of Welsh medium education in the area are recognised locally and beyond. I have two main concerns. As I said at the Cymdeithas session at Tafwyl and on Taro'r Post yesterday, the elephant in the room is whether it is realistic to rely on Councils to deliver the expansion in Welsh medium places. The commitment to the language from Labour & Conservative Councillors in southeast Wales does not generally match the commitment from Assembly Members within their respective parties. My second concern is the belief that English medium education can make a major contribution towards the target. One of the Plaid Councillors here in Barry went to a local English medium school and he has learnt the language and speaks it far better than I do. But my experience on the whole is that even looking at the status quo the input is not delivering enough in the way of outcomes. My view remains that to meet the target, it is overwhelmingly about the expansion of Welsh medium education. Sourcing the teachers is, as you say, a major challenge.
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Post by toshfan on Jul 12, 2017 15:11:14 GMT
But my reasons for the thread were football related. An announcement such as 10 or 20 years ago, would not have had prominent Welsh Football people on the panel. It is fascinating how central football is to Welsh culture. For some of us individually that is not new but the establishment (I do not use the word derogatory)now embrace the game!
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Post by biwmares on Jul 12, 2017 16:15:23 GMT
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jul 12, 2017 21:47:06 GMT
Thank you for the link. Interesting viewing. About half way through so far. Went away to university from the Rhymney Valley. When I returned the Welsh school in the valley was just starting up in 1981. How things have changed from my childhood.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 7:50:33 GMT
I grew up in Pembrokeshire and we all just largely spoke English. Dad always belted out the national anthem at Cardiff Arms Park (got taken twice before refusing to go to Egg again) but that's it.
However, I would welcome the opportunity to hear a bit more Welsh. I banter with the Manchester / Oldham types where I live and many know Wales well. I can teach basic terms but that's as far as it goes.
There's nothing wrong with a Welsh person being bilingual just as there's nothing wrong with a Pakistani being so in this country. My old neighbours spoke Urdu to their children as much as they spoke English. And it was only ever English when speaking in front of me.
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Post by toshfan on Jul 13, 2017 9:21:06 GMT
A fascinating programme. I did not agree with the title of the programme as I do not believe that speaking Welsh is a prerequisite to being Welsh. But that, notwithstanding, Gwynedd has lead the way in this area. Gwynedd and any Welsh language supporter owes a great deal to Dyfrig Siencyn. I was delighted when he became leader of that Council.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 13, 2017 12:05:21 GMT
A fascinating programme. I did not agree with the title of the programme as I do not believe that speaking Welsh is a prerequisite to being Welsh. But that, notwithstanding, Gwynedd has lead the way in this area. Gwynedd and any Welsh language supporter owes a great deal to Dyfrig Siencyn. I was delighted when he became leader of that Council. but i do believe it should be taught at early schools/primary with welsh history. but like most of the uk with the multi cultural society this wont work. i was taught early on in Ysgol-y-Graig Primary School in cefn coed but after that nothing, so all the basic lost and welsh language gone. for me now living in Ireland people as can i speak welsh and its shameful to say no. followed can you speak Irish with much the same answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 12:36:33 GMT
I have two friends from Northern Ireland and both know some basic Gaelic. If I could find Welsh classes in Manchester then I'd probably attend. It feels right.
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Post by biwmares on Jul 17, 2017 14:52:58 GMT
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