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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 20:40:35 GMT
I can see Appleton staying on at Leicester if they continue this present form. Then that just leaves Everton. Names like Ancelotti, Tuchel and Pellegrini are being bounced around there! I can see a vacancy at West Ham if they lose at Spurs tomorrow. Good chance of a vacancy at West Ham after that game. They're currently winning at Wembley!
I was half right with Appleton. Puel's assistant at Leicester now. An appointment I didn't see coming...
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Post by manulike on Oct 25, 2017 20:59:28 GMT
As long as Giggsy remains unemployed, I will remain nervous.
Even Everton looked good in the second half this evening ... and i was hoping he might go there ...
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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 26, 2017 10:00:18 GMT
As long as Giggsy remains unemployed, I will remain nervous. Even Everton looked good in the second half this evening ... and i was hoping he might go there ... Anyone but England's no1 pundit/cheerleader. Let's hope Coleman agrees another contract soon. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Oct 26, 2017 10:08:04 GMT
As long as Giggsy remains unemployed, I will remain nervous. Even Everton looked good in the second half this evening ... and i was hoping he might go there ... Anyone but England's no1 pundit/cheerleader. **Roll of the eyes** You gonna say same about Bellamy as all he ever talks about on the Debate is England and English Football. He gets asked on the show and paid to talk about the subject matter. Also spent his entire career in England so thats his speciality. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 26, 2017 17:45:47 GMT
Anyone but England's no1 pundit/cheerleader. **Roll of the eyes** You gonna say same about Bellamy as all he ever talks about on the Debate is England and English Football. He gets asked on the show and paid to talk about the subject matter. Also spent his entire career in England so thats his speciality. But when was the last time that you heard Bellamy describe England as "we" or "us" like Giggs does? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 20:25:52 GMT
I'd lean towards Everton poaching Dyche from Burnley. Perhaps Cookie will be odds on for the Turf Moor hot seat?
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Post by quetzal on Oct 27, 2017 8:28:25 GMT
We’ve let them get away with it on here. Including me. The reality is this World Cup Qualifying was a bloody shambles. There has to be a review from FAW on what the hell went wrong. Yeah we want Cookie to stay but what the hell went wrong? We need answers
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Oct 27, 2017 10:36:59 GMT
**Roll of the eyes** You gonna say same about Bellamy as all he ever talks about on the Debate is England and English Football. He gets asked on the show and paid to talk about the subject matter. Also spent his entire career in England so thats his speciality. But when was the last time that you heard Bellamy describe England as "we" or "us" like Giggs does? I never watch England - but you seem the expert ;-) |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Oct 27, 2017 10:42:32 GMT
We’ve let them get away with it on here. Including me. The reality is this World Cup Qualifying was a bloody shambles. There has to be a review from FAW on what the hell went wrong. Yeah we want Cookie to stay but what the hell went wrong? We need answers We need "f" all. Prior to Euro 2016 qualification we would expect to be 3rd in a group, we were only 2nd in the Euros (if that was play off qualification, as previous competitions) we may not have this expectation now. Coleman has done a great job for Wales, he is our greatest ever manager and will be remembered that way. I don't see a person better placed to take this country forward. No reviews needed, we are a small country, with a small pool of players, we have a great team spirit, but a lack of quality on the whole. Only terrible result (outside the last, when injuries caught up with us) was Georgia at home. Serbia draw at home can happen to any team. Should we have done better, maybe, should we be aggressively challenging "the shambles", god no. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Oct 27, 2017 10:44:55 GMT
The only possible reasons I can think of are:
(1) Euros hangover.
(2) Under-estimation of Georgia at home.
(3) We all knew the Irish were going to try and kick us off the park, but no guile shown during the game to counter it.
(4) Indifferent form of some players during the qualifiers, suspensions and injuries.
It was catch up from mid-way in the group, but we only just missed out.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Oct 27, 2017 10:51:43 GMT
The only possible reasons I can think of are: (1) Euros hangover. (2) Under-estimation of Georgia at home. (3) We all knew the Irish were going to try and kick us off the park, but no guile shown during the game to counter it. (4) Indifferent form of some players during the qualifiers, suspensions and injuries. Euro hangover, most definitely affected us, even the fans tbh. Dont think we underestimated Georgia, we just were not solid enough on the day. The Irish are dirty, but it wasn't necessarily the tactics that we couldn't handle, but the player they injured meant we couldn't create anything, as Ramsey deep is a waste. Prior to injury we looked decent, we exploited the middle well. Hit the nail on the head with 4th point, Bale missed some crucial games, we missed other key players in others - rarely had our considered first XI on the field. Luck wasn't with us this campaign, it wasn't to be. |
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Post by manulike on Oct 27, 2017 11:10:58 GMT
The only possible reasons I can think of are: (1) Euros hangover. (2) Under-estimation of Georgia at home. (3) We all knew the Irish were going to try and kick us off the park, but no guile shown during the game to counter it. (4) Indifferent form of some players during the qualifiers, suspensions and injuries. Euro hangover, most definitely affected us, even the fans tbh. Dont think we underestimated Georgia, we just were not solid enough on the day. The Irish are dirty, but it wasn't necessarily the tactics that we couldn't handle, but the player they injured meant we couldn't create anything, as Ramsey deep is a waste. Prior to injury we looked decent, we exploited the middle well. Hit the nail on the head with 4th point, Bale missed some crucial games, we missed other key players in others - rarely had our considered first XI on the field. Luck wasn't with us this campaign, it wasn't to be.Agree with you post above and with this as well. We really need to get some perspective here. We are not World Beaters, and we are certainly not in the World Top Ten (although its lovely to think we were for a short time). We are a great team, with great team spirit. When 2 or 3 things go wrong for us, we most certainly have to rely on LUCK. This time, it wasn't to be. That said, I have been to all ten matches this campaign, and the only one I left disappointed, was Georgia at home. All other matches, including ROI at home, I felt we gave all we could in the circumstances and were unlucky not to get a better result. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Oct 27, 2017 12:10:08 GMT
Euro hangover, most definitely affected us, even the fans tbh. Dont think we underestimated Georgia, we just were not solid enough on the day. The Irish are dirty, but it wasn't necessarily the tactics that we couldn't handle, but the player they injured meant we couldn't create anything, as Ramsey deep is a waste. Prior to injury we looked decent, we exploited the middle well. Hit the nail on the head with 4th point, Bale missed some crucial games, we missed other key players in others - rarely had our considered first XI on the field. Luck wasn't with us this campaign, it wasn't to be.Agree with you post above and with this as well. We really need to get some perspective here. We are not World Beaters, and we are certainly not in the World Top Ten (although its lovely to think we were for a short time). We are a great team, with great team spirit. When 2 or 3 things go wrong for us, we most certainly have to rely on LUCK. This time, it wasn't to be. That said, I have been to all ten matches this campaign, and the only one I left disappointed, was Georgia at home. All other matches, including ROI at home, I felt we gave all we could in the circumstances and were unlucky not to get a better result. Common sense post and agree 100% |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 13:16:30 GMT
RE: Bale. He is undoubtedly our most talented player but we had some great performances without him.
I simply can't agree with the shambles comment either. I've never been more proud to be a Wales football fan in recent years. Speed then Coleman have made so many improvements. A Pulis style appointment would see severe regression throughout. Ditto Hughes.
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Post by conwy10 on Oct 28, 2017 17:31:01 GMT
Anyone but England's no1 pundit/cheerleader. **Roll of the eyes** You gonna say same about Bellamy as all he ever talks about on the Debate is England and English Football. He gets asked on the show and paid to talk about the subject matter. Also spent his entire career in England so thats his speciality. It's about being true to what you are. I've coached for an English team which I was happy with and proud of, I was representing the town not the country, the club asked me to do a few session for the community which I agreed to, they said it was an initiative through the English FA and I'd have to wear a full England tracksuit. Obviously I refused saying I'd only do it as a representative of the club which caused problems but I had to be true to myself. Giggs has plenty of money, he's going to England games through choice, Giggs could easily refuse and phone up any sponsors or broadcasters supporting Wales and have a similar role for Wales. I've never heard Bellamy on the radio, if he was on a show about England I'd feel the same but if he's on a show and the topics tend to be focussed on England all he can do is give his opinion. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 28, 2017 19:15:54 GMT
**Roll of the eyes** You gonna say same about Bellamy as all he ever talks about on the Debate is England and English Football. He gets asked on the show and paid to talk about the subject matter. Also spent his entire career in England so thats his speciality. It's about being true to what you are. I've coached for an English team which I was happy with and proud of, I was representing the town not the country, the club asked me to do a few session for the community which I agreed to, they said it was an initiative through the English FA and I'd have to wear a full England tracksuit. Obviously I refused saying I'd only do it as a representative of the club which caused problems but I had to be true to myself. Giggs has plenty of money, he's going to England games through choice, Giggs could easily refuse and phone up any sponsors or broadcasters supporting Wales and have a similar role for Wales. I've never heard Bellamy on the radio, if he was on a show about England I'd feel the same but if he's on a show and the topics tend to be focussed on England all he can do is give his opinion. Bellamy's covered Wales & Cardiff games on television, he also helped with Cardiff's youth teams for free From what I understand Bellamy is a passionate Welshman and, if it came down to it, I'd take him over Giggs all day long |
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Post by pendragon on Oct 28, 2017 23:58:26 GMT
We’ve let them get away with it on here. Including me. The reality is this World Cup Qualifying was a bloody shambles. There has to be a review from FAW on what the hell went wrong. Yeah we want Cookie to stay but what the hell went wrong? We need answers I do agree with your sentiments tbh, but there may be many variables to add to the equation; injuries and suspensions of key players at critical moments: miscalculation or misjudgement; hell, even bad luck on occasion. While we do know based on previous EURO performances, that they could have done better, we know that they are a good team and we know that given previous form, Coleman is more than capable of reflecting on this last campaign and rectifying any problems, moving forward. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 30, 2017 22:03:19 GMT
I've been told that the odds have been slashed tonight on Coleman being the next Everton manager.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 30, 2017 22:08:11 GMT
I've been told that the odds have been slashed tonight on Coleman being the next Everton manager. It would be a disappointment if he went. It could be a disaster if the FAW pull a ‘Mike Smith’ move. Lets hope he stays |
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Post by welwyn on Oct 31, 2017 8:16:23 GMT
I've been told that the odds have been slashed tonight on Coleman being the next Everton manager. Yet, now Dyche seems favourite. As someone that works in that industry, you can ignore pretty much all 'new manager odds' these days. The minute anyone bets more than about £20 on anybody in one of those markets their odds get slashed as all bookmakers are desperate not to get done on one of those markets. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 31, 2017 8:32:32 GMT
I've been told that the odds have been slashed tonight on Coleman being the next Everton manager. Yet, now Dyche seems favourite. As someone that works in that industry, you can ignore pretty much all 'new manager odds' these days. The minute anyone bets more than about £20 on anybody in one of those markets their odds get slashed as all bookmakers are desperate not to get done on one of those markets. I don't have a huge understanding of the betting industry TBH, but was told by a mate as he knows that I have an interest in Welsh football. I was told that he went from 14/1 (which seemed quite high), down to 4/1. I assumed that as 'the bookmakers rarely get it wrong', that this meant that they had some information or some serious bets were being placed on it. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 31, 2017 9:57:44 GMT
You sure that wasn't just a typo? Its all unfounded speculation at the moment, I'm sure we'll know more after the friendlies in a couple of weeks.
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 31, 2017 10:16:03 GMT
Definitely wasn't a typo. I thought that the phrase 'odds have been slashed' meant that the bookmakers or those on the inside knew something was happening, but if all it takes for a few people on payday to put on £20 to bring the odds down that much, maybe there is nothing in it.
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Post by welwyn on Oct 31, 2017 10:17:02 GMT
Yet, now Dyche seems favourite. As someone that works in that industry, you can ignore pretty much all 'new manager odds' these days. The minute anyone bets more than about £20 on anybody in one of those markets their odds get slashed as all bookmakers are desperate not to get done on one of those markets. I don't have a huge understanding of the betting industry TBH, but was told by a mate as he knows that I have an interest in Welsh football. I was told that he went from 14/1 (which seemed quite high), down to 4/1. I assumed that as 'the bookmakers rarely get it wrong', that this meant that they had some information or some serious bets were being placed on it. With that type of market, they are so scared of getting caught out by 'insider info' that it takes a very tiny sum to move the market substantially. If you go on a website like Oddschecker and check the price history of any new manager market, it fluctuates all over the place. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 1, 2017 11:13:21 GMT
In his press conference Coleman revealed he started talks with the FAW on his future immediately after the ROI game. They've met once since then and will resume talks after the next two games.
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Post by welshiron on Nov 1, 2017 12:51:43 GMT
Personally think this should of been resolved by now, seems to me that Coleman is still waiting to see what's out there before committing.
Whilst I want Coleman to stay I don't like the way this is unfolding
On a side note Serbia sacked their manager this week
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Post by iot on Nov 1, 2017 12:58:03 GMT
To me, reading the BBC article and seeing Bale's inclusion makes me think that Coleman knows this is his last camp and wants a proper farewell. Hope I'm wrong!
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Post by vandenhauwe on Nov 1, 2017 13:03:37 GMT
Seen the interview got a feeling he's on his way out.
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Post by larslagerback on Nov 1, 2017 13:25:55 GMT
Personally think this should of been resolved by now, seems to me that Coleman is still waiting to see what's out there before committing. Whilst I want Coleman to stay I don't like the way this is unfolding On a side note Serbia sacked their manager this week Serbia?! Seems a tad harsh on the face of it. |
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Post by manulike on Nov 1, 2017 13:26:57 GMT
Seen the interview got a feeling he's on his way out. I agree. It does look that way. None the less, I genuinely feel its not purely down to money or to a possible Premiership posting. I feel that Cookie knows that he can lead our team to greater heights, if he is given more resources, but is not content with just plodding along with what he's got. |
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