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Post by dai on Nov 16, 2017 16:55:36 GMT
I personally wouldn't take much notice, manager job odds are all over the shop these days.
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Post by joseywales37 on Nov 16, 2017 17:33:44 GMT
Now favourite for Sunderland job  Paddy Power offering 1/10 odds. Shit. Wouldn't trust Paddy power on anything to do with Wales, probably just trying to put another spanner in the works. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 16, 2017 17:35:38 GMT
Paddy Power offering 1/10 odds. Shit. Wouldn't trust Paddy power on anything to do with Wales, probably just trying to put another spanner in the works. William Hill are offering 1/8. Most others are offering, at best, 1/5. How often do you actually see odds go that low for a manager where there isn't more to it? Let's hope it's just an approach and Coleman sticks with us instead. He could well be speaking to Sunderland as a negotiation tactic. |
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Post by joseywales37 on Nov 16, 2017 17:46:02 GMT
Wouldn't trust Paddy power on anything to do with Wales, probably just trying to put another spanner in the works. William Hill are offering 1/8. Most others are offering, at best, 1/5. How often do you actually see odds go that low for a manager where there isn't more to it? Let's hope it's just an approach and Coleman sticks with us instead. He could well be speaking to Sunderland as a negotiation tactic. Hope nothing in it, but they seem to have developed a penchant for taking the piss out of us lately after the Ireland game. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 16, 2017 20:52:20 GMT
Where managerial careers go to die
A lot of Sunderland fans turning their nose up at Coleman saying they're too good for him, lads, your last manager was Simon Grayson
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Post by helipad138 on Nov 16, 2017 21:31:14 GMT
At the rate Sunderland go through managers, Cookie could go there and be back in time for the Nations League.
If he leaves us for a club job, I'd hope it was a far better one than Sunderland.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 16, 2017 21:46:01 GMT
William Hill are offering 1/8. Most others are offering, at best, 1/5. How often do you actually see odds go that low for a manager where there isn't more to it? Let's hope it's just an approach and Coleman sticks with us instead. He could well be speaking to Sunderland as a negotiation tactic. Hope nothing in it, but they seem to have developed a penchant for taking the piss out of us lately after the Ireland game. I think it's a bit rich of them to be taking the piss out of anyone these days . There might be two vacant posts in the FAI before long.. |
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Post by pendragon on Nov 16, 2017 22:43:13 GMT
Where managerial careers go to die A lot of Sunderland fans turning their nose up at Coleman saying they're too good for him, lads, your last manager was Simon Grayson Isn't Sunderland a bit of a poisoned chalice these days given its slight precarious position? One news source says Coleman is interested, another says Sunderland hopes to make him their top target. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. I'd guess they've made overtures. It's no bad thing if it puts pressure on the FAW however. |
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Post by joseywales37 on Nov 16, 2017 22:55:17 GMT
Where managerial careers go to die A lot of Sunderland fans turning their nose up at Coleman saying they're too good for him, lads, your last manager was Simon Grayson Isn't Sunderland a bit of a poisoned chalice these days given its slight precarious position? One news source says Coleman is interested, another says Sunderland hopes to make him their top target. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. I'd guess they've made overtures. It's no bad thing if it puts pressure on the FAW however. FAW will be putting a lot of what we are trying to build at risk, as they always seem to do, if they get this one wrong. My main concern is keeping Osian Roberts sweet in his position as I think he the most important person in Welsh football, but I hope Cookie stays all the same. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 16, 2017 22:58:08 GMT
Where managerial careers go to die A lot of Sunderland fans turning their nose up at Coleman saying they're too good for him, lads, your last manager was Simon Grayson Isn't Sunderland a bit of a poisoned chalice these days given its slight precarious position? One news source says Coleman is interested, another says Sunderland hopes to make him their top target. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. I'd guess they've made overtures. It's no bad thing if it puts pressure on the FAW however. A poor squad and little to no investment as well as an apathetic fanbase, looking more likely to slide down to League 1 or even League 2 than the Premier League. It would be one hell of a slog as a manager, I wouldn't do it |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Nov 16, 2017 23:07:36 GMT
Isn't Sunderland a bit of a poisoned chalice these days given its slight precarious position? One news source says Coleman is interested, another says Sunderland hopes to make him their top target. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. I'd guess they've made overtures. It's no bad thing if it puts pressure on the FAW however. A poor squad and little to no investment as well as an apathetic fanbase, looking more likely to slide down to League 1 or even League 2 than the Premier League. It would be one hell of a slog as a manager, I wouldn't do it Just imagine if Coleman were to leave and turn Sunderland around his stock would increase dramatically. He would also look after Matthews and Joniesta. Would prefer it if Coleman stays and adapts to the resources he is likely to have at his disposal. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 23:10:43 GMT
I traditionally like Sunderland as a club but that would upset me.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 16, 2017 23:13:16 GMT
Isn't Sunderland a bit of a poisoned chalice these days given its slight precarious position? One news source says Coleman is interested, another says Sunderland hopes to make him their top target. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. I'd guess they've made overtures. It's no bad thing if it puts pressure on the FAW however. A poor squad and little to no investment as well as an apathetic fanbase, looking more likely to slide down to League 1 or even League 2 than the Premier League. It would be one hell of a slog as a manager, I wouldn't do it Christ, no. I wouldn't either. They are 24th in the Championship now I believe? No wonder, they're after him! They're after Michael O'Neill as well. Seems like high hopes there surely.. |
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Post by pendragon on Nov 16, 2017 23:17:54 GMT
Isn't Sunderland a bit of a poisoned chalice these days given its slight precarious position? One news source says Coleman is interested, another says Sunderland hopes to make him their top target. I would imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. I'd guess they've made overtures. It's no bad thing if it puts pressure on the FAW however. FAW will be putting a lot of what we are trying to build at risk, as they always seem to do, if they get this one wrong. My main concern is keeping Osian Roberts sweet in his position as I think he the most important person in Welsh football, but I hope Cookie stays all the same. I know. Those are precisely my thoughts! We don't need to start from scratch.. we just need to build on what we've already achieved! |
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Post by saints19 on Nov 17, 2017 3:47:54 GMT
If they get O'Neill in I think that will prove to be a good switch, even though I thought Strachan did OK with fairly mediocre players on the whole. Will they qualify even with O'Neill? Have to wait and see. But I would definitely take O'Neill as Welsh manager, he's done an excellent job in his current position. Forgive my ignorance, but we are (hopefully) referring to the Michael O'Neil here and not Martin? Yes. |
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Post by Tommy32 on Nov 17, 2017 10:53:40 GMT
You know what guys, I'm having a tough time putting myself on either side of the Coleman debate. On one hand, he clearly failed this campaign in getting our lads up for another qualifiers after the Summer in France. However, would any other manager have done any better??
If he goes, I wouldn't be against Thierry Henry taking it (been rumoured), as long as Osh stays. Also wouldn't mind (dare I say it) Dutch Ray being brought back into the fold. I think we can genuinely fight to get very far in Euro 2020, a manager that can get us playing nice fluid football might get us the best chance,
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Post by pendragon on Nov 17, 2017 11:08:16 GMT
You know what guys, I'm having a tough time putting myself on either side of the Coleman debate. On one hand, he clearly failed this campaign in getting our lads up for another qualifiers after the Summer in France. However, would any other manager have done any better?? If he goes, I wouldn't be against Thierry Henry taking it (been rumoured), as long as Osh stays. Also wouldn't mind (dare I say it) Dutch Ray being brought back into the fold. I think we can genuinely fight to get very far in Euro 2020, a manager that can get us playing nice fluid football might get us the best chance, I noticed the rather ambitious article published in Wales Online yesterday. I don't know what to make of it tbh. They seem pessimistic with Coleman's prospects of staying on - yet they think we can snap up Henry?? Even going as far to suggest that he might welcome the prospect (despite the massive pay cut) seeing as he'll have plenty of time to indulge in his punditry duties on the side! |
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Post by saturn9 on Nov 17, 2017 12:07:11 GMT
If the manager for some bizzare reason had to be British, i would go for Paul Lambert. Can't understand a word he says, but highly thought of as an up and coming manager when he took the helm at Villa.
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Post by superunknown on Nov 17, 2017 13:29:35 GMT
Some Sunderland fans are thinking that if he's gonna leave he'll bide his time and wait for Swansea to sack Clement and take that job. Not the most outlandish thought ever.
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 17, 2017 14:09:28 GMT
Some Sunderland fans are thinking that if he's gonna leave he'll bide his time and wait for Swansea to sack Clement and take that job. Not the most outlandish thought ever. Hasn’t he previously said he wouldn’t manage Swansea because of his family who still live there? |
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Post by pendragon on Nov 17, 2017 14:20:48 GMT
Any news?? Anyone with inside knowledge?? They're due to make the decision today aren't they?!
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 17, 2017 19:54:08 GMT
According to numerous news sources.
He will soon be announced as Sunderland's manager. If true best of luck and thanks for all the good times Cookie!
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 17, 2017 19:58:31 GMT
Strong rumours he’s resigned and off to Sunderland - FAW moves too slow again?
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Post by zenith on Nov 17, 2017 20:03:23 GMT
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Post by pendragon on Nov 17, 2017 20:03:35 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 17, 2017 20:05:21 GMT
I'll await official confirmation before changing the thread title, but it looks like he's as good as gone. A massive shame but we have to look ahead.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Nov 17, 2017 20:07:06 GMT
Gone all over sky sports
Sunderland 😮😮 bad move CC
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Post by pendragon on Nov 17, 2017 20:07:30 GMT
I haven't felt this much dread since our Ireland game. Yes, we do need to look ahead. But I don't think this is good for us at all. Sorry to sound pessimistic.
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Post by alf on Nov 17, 2017 20:08:45 GMT
Bad move for CC, however thanks for the memories Cookie
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 17, 2017 20:09:22 GMT
Sunderland fans don't want him there, he probably could have earned a larger wedge elsewhere and if he fails there then he'll be back to where he was before he took the job with us (with that opportunity also likely locked for him). When I say best of luck, I truly mean it. He didn't have the easiest job with our lot but club football is a lot more ruthless than international. He won't get the same amount of time to get things right there as he did with us.
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