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Post by marsvolta on Jun 12, 2018 12:11:53 GMT
...and £3.5m a year richer
Nice work if you can get it eh?! Yeah, people keep saying he’s making the wrong career moves but since he’s left his £300,000 a year Wales job he’s had a £2.25m Sunderland contract (presumably paid up) and a £3.5million a year China contract No one loves Wales more than me but that kind of money and security for the family would turn my head |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 12:39:17 GMT
Capello, Scolari, Pellegrini, Poyet and Villas-Boas have been there in recent years. Who’s there now though? Chinese domestic football for the money they’ve put into it is shockingly irrelevant. Managing or playing in China will enhance your profile the same way sitting on a beach would, only difference is you’d be getting paid. Said managers were certainly there when I last looked at Chinese football and that wasn’t too long ago. There’s too much blinkered romance with Coleman. He had poor spells at Coventry and abroad before resurrecting his career with Wales. He then made a baffling move to Sunderland whilst pretending he wanted to stay here. And about supporting his family... Have they gone to China with him or is it the suitcase packed and gone? |
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Post by zenith on Jun 12, 2018 12:39:40 GMT
Nice work if you can get it eh?! Yeah, people keep saying he’s making the wrong career moves but since he’s left his £300,000 a year Wales job he’s had a £2.25m Sunderland contract (presumably paid up) and a £3.5million a year China contract No one loves Wales more than me but that kind of money and security for the family would turn my head Spot on. |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 12, 2018 13:22:53 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Chinese_Super_League Plenty of big names managing out in China currently; Fabio Cannavaro, Paulo Bento, Bernd Schuster and Cookie of course. With some very big managers just moving on this last year, but Manuel Pellegrini went on to West Ham - so its not an end going to China.
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Post by quetzal on Jun 12, 2018 13:45:33 GMT
Great money move. Reputation in UK outside of Cymru is still mud. If someone said to you we get rid of Giggs today and replace him with Cookie. I bet you’d think about it now?
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 12, 2018 14:37:13 GMT
Great money move. Reputation in UK outside of Cymru is still mud. If someone said to you we get rid of Giggs today and replace him with Cookie. I bet you’d think about it now? I love Coleman and wish he had stayed on.... but i wouldnt want him to replace Giggs now, we are on to a new exciting chapter, Coleman is our past. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 18:35:10 GMT
Great money move. Reputation in UK outside of Cymru is still mud. If someone said to you we get rid of Giggs today and replace him with Cookie. I bet you’d think about it now? I wouldn’t. He had his mind on other things post Euro 2016 and will almost certainly never manage Wales again. Bielsa to Leeds is a move from a manager of principle. This less so. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Jun 12, 2018 21:30:05 GMT
Who’s there now though? Chinese domestic football for the money they’ve put into it is shockingly irrelevant. Managing or playing in China will enhance your profile the same way sitting on a beach would, only difference is you’d be getting paid. Said managers were certainly there when I last looked at Chinese football and that wasn’t too long ago. There’s too much blinkered romance with Coleman. He had poor spells at Coventry and abroad before resurrecting his career with Wales. He then made a baffling move to Sunderland whilst pretending he wanted to stay here. And about supporting his family... Have they gone to China with him or is it the suitcase packed and gone? It strikes me that Cookie has a number of hangers-on. His misses doesn't come across as low financial maintenance and I bet his son would love to have a few scraps from the Chinese football table. When Coleman took the Wales job didn't he say something that this was the greatest honour and could never be topped? I know that all Managers say that, but what if Cookie actually meant it? Maybe he thinks that he was done the best job ever and taken to a semi-final of a major championship and that he will never, ever be able to top that. So thinks whats left to do? Nothing but get a nice pay day by managing basket case Sunderland with the high probability of getting a pay-off, £3m a year managing in China, do that for a few years, then get a similar salary for managing Qatar for a few years. By the time he hits 50 retire and get a better sun tan than John Toshack. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 7:42:52 GMT
You could well be right and, for me, that’s deeply disappointing. Manuel Pellegrini is a generation older than Fortune Cookie but has swapped China for the Premier League. A problem club like West Ham too.
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Post by manulike on Jun 13, 2018 10:58:32 GMT
You could well be right and, for me, that’s deeply disappointing. Manuel Pellegrini is a generation older than Fortune Cookie but has swapped China for the Premier League. A problem club like West Ham too. I like it ;-~) |
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Post by manulike on Jun 13, 2018 19:42:01 GMT
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Jun 14, 2018 10:25:01 GMT
I don't think China appeals to Bale to be honest. Hes in his prime, could go to any top side in Europe, or stay at Real Madrid where he wants to stay, if he plays. Id be really surprised. |
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Post by alternativewales on Jun 15, 2018 18:06:54 GMT
Nice work if you can get it eh?! Yeah, people keep saying he’s making the wrong career moves but since he’s left his £300,000 a year Wales job he’s had a £2.25m Sunderland contract (presumably paid up) and a £3.5million a year China contract No one loves Wales more than me but that kind of money and security for the family would turn my head As would I MV! Nobody can blame Kit and Tony Roberts going either. Roberts deserves a big payday after his work for the Swans since he arrived in 2015. |
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Post by zenith on Aug 2, 2018 11:42:55 GMT
If anyone is interested, Coleman’s side are currently playing against Beijing, live on Sky Sports Football right now
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Post by zenith on Aug 2, 2018 11:44:32 GMT
They’ve just gone 1-0 down after 6 mins 😂
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 2, 2018 11:50:17 GMT
5 at the back?
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Post by zenith on Aug 2, 2018 11:52:12 GMT
playing a 4-3-3, but to be honest it’s difficult to tell as they are all over the shop! |
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Post by scoop76 on Dec 14, 2018 21:23:09 GMT
If you want to see how Chris Coleman got in after leaving the Wales job, check out Sunderland Til I Die on Netflix.
The eight episode series premiered today and has starring roles for Chris Coleman, Kit Symons and Jonny Williams.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Dec 15, 2018 10:00:03 GMT
This is a very good documentary.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 17, 2018 9:38:49 GMT
Coleman and Kit feature from episode 4 onwards if you don't fancy watching the whole thing.
Interesting to see how highly the Makems thought of him when he joined.
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Post by gwernybwch on Dec 26, 2018 12:40:44 GMT
The Sunderland documentaries are well worth a watch.
Cookie comes across as a big personality, passionate and great motivator (although I do wonder what he was like before being coached Ian Mitchell). An interesting scene showing him square up to supporter after they have been relegated.
Johnny Williams comes across well. Unlike many of the other Sunderland players....
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 6, 2019 22:14:11 GMT
The Sunderland documentaries are well worth a watch. Cookie comes across as a big personality, passionate and great motivator (although I do wonder what he was like before being coached Ian Mitchell). An interesting scene showing him square up to supporter after they have been relegated. Johnny Williams comes across well. Unlike many of the other Sunderland players.... Just watched this Good to see how much it all meant to some fans in the city as we hadn't previously seen this side of the Sunderland fans, all we'd seen on TV was the stadium emptying earlier and earlier each game. Coleman comes accross as a top bloke and seemed popular with both staff and fans.It also showed what an impossible job Coleman took on with the chairman not backing the club and players on big contracts not interested in the least. Even attempts to bring people in on loan were challenging with no players allowed to come in on loan until some plyers had moved out of the club the other way. Also agree that Jonny Williams comes accross well, good luck at Charlton. All in all, well worth a watch. |
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Post by cadno on Jan 7, 2019 9:45:20 GMT
The Sunderland documentaries are well worth a watch. Cookie comes across as a big personality, passionate and great motivator (although I do wonder what he was like before being coached Ian Mitchell). An interesting scene showing him square up to supporter after they have been relegated. Johnny Williams comes across well. Unlike many of the other Sunderland players.... Jack Rodwell thinks he's more important than anyone in the world, bellend. |
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Post by manulike on Jan 7, 2019 19:42:42 GMT
The Sunderland documentaries are well worth a watch. Cookie comes across as a big personality, passionate and great motivator (although I do wonder what he was like before being coached Ian Mitchell). An interesting scene showing him square up to supporter after they have been relegated. Johnny Williams comes across well. Unlike many of the other Sunderland players.... Just watched this Good to see how much it all meant to some fans in the city as we hadn't previously seen this side of the Sunderland fans, all we'd seen on TV was the stadium emptying earlier and earlier each game. Coleman comes accross as a top bloke and seemed popular with both staff and fans.It also showed what an impossible job Coleman took on with the chairman not backing the club and players on big contracts not interested in the least. Even attempts to bring people in on loan were challenging with no players allowed to come in on loan until some plyers had moved out of the club the other way. Also agree that Jonny Williams comes accross well, good luck at Charlton. All in all, well worth a watch. The first episode is streamed here for free |
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Post by biwmares on May 14, 2019 19:21:46 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on May 15, 2019 6:23:14 GMT
Sacked this morning (or whatever time it is in China)
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Post by cymruramdcfc on May 15, 2019 8:07:26 GMT
where now for Chris?
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Post by cymroircarn on May 15, 2019 9:21:38 GMT
Gut feeling would be Middle East. Would be willing to pay high wages. Not sure if a club in the UK or Europe would take a gamble with his below average record in club football? Those who would be willing to gamble probably could not afford him. He was on approx 3.5 million a year in China, approx 1 million at Sunderland. Would he be willing to drop down? |
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Post by welshiron on May 15, 2019 11:01:47 GMT
Of course he will come down.
He has had his big pay day now back to normality.
Cant see him getting much in the UK though.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on May 15, 2019 13:04:19 GMT
no one can take away what he achieved with wales but outside if this he not been a great success
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