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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 8, 2020 19:41:49 GMT
Yes because he's been injured read the games above where he plays before and after Read the response to you where the reasons for this were clearly outlined & it was clear he had reasons for this |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 8, 2020 21:54:39 GMT
read the games above where he plays before and after Read the response to you where the reasons for this were clearly outlined & it was clear he had reasons for this they were not clearly outlined, if you think so go through and outline them. of course you won't and you'll ignore it because you can't defend them. a good few double headers ramsey has played either side of. 8 games in 22 matches. you asked for the facts there they are now make your excuses. |
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Post by dai on Oct 8, 2020 21:55:25 GMT
Back on this now are we?
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Post by manulike on Oct 8, 2020 22:05:35 GMT
But Giggs has confirmed Ramsey will link up with his country in Dublin for Sunday's Nations League clash with Republic of Ireland, while allaying fears over Chris Mepham's availability after he sustained a knock late on in the English capital.
"Aaron's fine. He's going to meet us in Dublin," explained Giggs.
"That's all fine. He's trained this week in Turin, so everything's good there."
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 8, 2020 22:19:22 GMT
Just the boost the squad needs after tonight’s chastening
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Post by insertname on Oct 8, 2020 23:05:51 GMT
Hey he was the real winner tonight, must have been watching on TV in his Turin hotel thinking “thank fuck for covid making me give this one a swerve” |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 8, 2020 23:33:26 GMT
Read the response to you where the reasons for this were clearly outlined & it was clear he had reasons for this they were not clearly outlined, if you think so go through and outline them. of course you won't and you'll ignore it because you can't defend them. a good few double headers ramsey has played either side of. 8 games in 22 matches. you asked for the facts there they are now make your excuses. Christ - you could have just scrolled back a page "Euro 2016 Qualifiers : Bosnia 10th, Cyprus 13th October, played for Arsenal on the 18th Two weeks before the break he's pulled off against Tottenham at half-time with a hamstring injury, and five days before it he's completed omitted from a fairly crucial Arsenal league game against Chelsea. Friendly : Wales v Panama - Nov 14 2017, played for Arsenal 4 days afterwards. Played four days before this for us V France and then pulled out after Bale and 3 others did too. "A Football Association of Wales spokesman has said it was never the intention for Ramsey to play against Panama." China Cup : Didn't feature at all, last game being Uruguay 26th March, yet played for Arsenal on the 1st April. Underwent a 'minor procedure'. Not in the squad for either of Arsenal's Premier Leagues games for the two gameweeks before this. Nations League : Ireland 0 Wales 1 - October 16 2018, played for Arsenal 22nd October His wife was giving birth to twins. Euro 2020 Qualifier : Wales v Slovakia, 24 March 2019, played for Arsenal straight after the international break Possibly a bit of a case for this one. In his defence, he joined up with the squad and then went home injured. Arsenal didn't play until 8 days after the Slovakia game and he got 60 minutes. Euro 2020 Qualifier : Wales vs Azerbaijan Sept 6, Belarus friendly Sept 9, five days later is in the Juve squad Missed both of Juve's games before the break and was an unused sub after the break." |
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Post by njdragon on Oct 9, 2020 8:29:59 GMT
they were not clearly outlined, if you think so go through and outline them. of course you won't and you'll ignore it because you can't defend them. a good few double headers ramsey has played either side of. 8 games in 22 matches. you asked for the facts there they are now make your excuses. Christ - you could have just scrolled back a page "Euro 2016 Qualifiers : Bosnia 10th, Cyprus 13th October, played for Arsenal on the 18th Two weeks before the break he's pulled off against Tottenham at half-time with a hamstring injury, and five days before it he's completed omitted from a fairly crucial Arsenal league game against Chelsea. Friendly : Wales v Panama - Nov 14 2017, played for Arsenal 4 days afterwards. Played four days before this for us V France and then pulled out after Bale and 3 others did too. "A Football Association of Wales spokesman has said it was never the intention for Ramsey to play against Panama." China Cup : Didn't feature at all, last game being Uruguay 26th March, yet played for Arsenal on the 1st April. Underwent a 'minor procedure'. Not in the squad for either of Arsenal's Premier Leagues games for the two gameweeks before this. Nations League : Ireland 0 Wales 1 - October 16 2018, played for Arsenal 22nd October His wife was giving birth to twins. Euro 2020 Qualifier : Wales v Slovakia, 24 March 2019, played for Arsenal straight after the international break Possibly a bit of a case for this one. In his defence, he joined up with the squad and then went home injured. Arsenal didn't play until 8 days after the Slovakia game and he got 60 minutes. Euro 2020 Qualifier : Wales vs Azerbaijan Sept 6, Belarus friendly Sept 9, five days later is in the Juve squad Missed both of Juve's games before the break and was an unused sub after the break." One last time - here's all the facts and figures. Up to you to make your mind up on this one but its been bugging me what he has missed and why since giggs took over: Played for arsenal either side of the china cup:15th March Plays for Arsenal 22nd mar China – Ramsey out 26th Mar Uruguay – ramsey out 1st April – plays for Arsenal Ramsey out as wife had given birth to twins 16th oct Ireland – Ramsey out 22nd Oct – Plays for Arsenal Thigh injury but plays for arsenal before and after14th march plays for arsenal 20th March – Trinidad – ramsey out 24th march – Slovakia – ramsey out 1st April played for Arsenal Ramsey plays 17th aug last pre-season game but doesn’t make squad for first 2 games of season. Withdraws from Wales squad - no reason given.
Makes the bench straight after wales and plays the following match. 6th sept – Azerbajan – ramsey out 9th sept – Belarus – ramsey out 14th sept – on bench for Juve Sits out juve match with tight abductor doesn’t play for wales or Juve either side10th Oct Slovakia – Ramsey out 13th Oct Croatia – Ramsey out 30th Oct – returns for juve Misses both games for wales but plays for Juve first game of season – tweets pic of him in full training that week3rd sept Finland – Ramsey out 6 Sept Bulgaria– Ramsey out 13th sept plays and scores in friendly for juve 20th sept Played for Juv – first game Juve Squad released from bubble 7th october misses england4th Oct – In squad for Juve Napoli 8th October England – Ramsey out |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 9, 2020 9:20:33 GMT
Christ - you could have just scrolled back a page "Euro 2016 Qualifiers : Bosnia 10th, Cyprus 13th October, played for Arsenal on the 18th Two weeks before the break he's pulled off against Tottenham at half-time with a hamstring injury, and five days before it he's completed omitted from a fairly crucial Arsenal league game against Chelsea. Friendly : Wales v Panama - Nov 14 2017, played for Arsenal 4 days afterwards. Played four days before this for us V France and then pulled out after Bale and 3 others did too. "A Football Association of Wales spokesman has said it was never the intention for Ramsey to play against Panama." China Cup : Didn't feature at all, last game being Uruguay 26th March, yet played for Arsenal on the 1st April. Underwent a 'minor procedure'. Not in the squad for either of Arsenal's Premier Leagues games for the two gameweeks before this. Nations League : Ireland 0 Wales 1 - October 16 2018, played for Arsenal 22nd October His wife was giving birth to twins. Euro 2020 Qualifier : Wales v Slovakia, 24 March 2019, played for Arsenal straight after the international break Possibly a bit of a case for this one. In his defence, he joined up with the squad and then went home injured. Arsenal didn't play until 8 days after the Slovakia game and he got 60 minutes. Euro 2020 Qualifier : Wales vs Azerbaijan Sept 6, Belarus friendly Sept 9, five days later is in the Juve squad Missed both of Juve's games before the break and was an unused sub after the break." One last time - here's all the facts and figures. Up to you to make your mind up on this one but its been bugging me what he has missed and why since giggs took over: Played for arsenal either side of the china cup:15th March Plays for Arsenal 22nd mar China – Ramsey out 26th Mar Uruguay – ramsey out 1st April – plays for Arsenal Ramsey out as wife had given birth to twins 16th oct Ireland – Ramsey out 22nd Oct – Plays for Arsenal Thigh injury but plays for arsenal before and after14th march plays for arsenal 20th March – Trinidad – ramsey out 24th march – Slovakia – ramsey out 1st April played for Arsenal Ramsey plays 17th aug last pre-season game but doesn’t make squad for first 2 games of season. Withdraws from Wales squad - no reason given.
Makes the bench straight after wales and plays the following match. 6th sept – Azerbajan – ramsey out 9th sept – Belarus – ramsey out 14th sept – on bench for Juve Sits out juve match with tight abductor doesn’t play for wales or Juve either side10th Oct Slovakia – Ramsey out 13th Oct Croatia – Ramsey out 30th Oct – returns for juve Misses both games for wales but plays for Juve first game of season – tweets pic of him in full training that week3rd sept Finland – Ramsey out 6 Sept Bulgaria– Ramsey out 13th sept plays and scores in friendly for juve 20th sept Played for Juv – first game Juve Squad released from bubble 7th october misses england4th Oct – In squad for Juve Napoli 8th October England – Ramsey out Yeah you've just listed all the genuine reasons he's missed those games - not sure how you can dispute it unless you have inside info that he lied about those reasons? Also many of those have large gaps between the Wales game and the Arsenal/Juve games. Also many of those compromise a two week period where it's perfectly reasonable that a minor injury would have been healed by then. For me none of these have demonstrated a lack of commitment rather just unfortunate injury. Again - once we look at the specifics of the facts it's clear that commitment isn't the issue here |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 9, 2020 9:24:17 GMT
Lol, as if this is still going on.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 9, 2020 9:30:26 GMT
Lol, as if this is still going on. I'm done with it now - my last post is my last comment on the issue. At the end of the day he's playing the next two which I'm buzzing about! |
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Post by hal on Oct 10, 2020 11:53:32 GMT
Does anyone think Giggs has been really intelligent about the Ramsey situation this break?
The more I think about it, it could be a master stroke.
Giggs knew we were likely to get beaten by England and morale may be low, what better to lift morale ahead of 2 vital games than Aaron Ramsey turning up just ahead of it?
Maybe I’m overthinking, but whatever has happened this is going to be a massive morale boost for the squad.
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Post by manulike on Oct 10, 2020 12:02:05 GMT
Does this answer your question, hal ?> |
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Post by hal on Oct 10, 2020 12:10:54 GMT
Does this answer your question, hal ?> This is what I saw to make me raise the thought. We’ve got an Ireland team coming into the game massively down and a lack of morale. And we’ve got a Welsh team coming in recently boosted by the return of one of their star players. What a boost! |
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Post by manulike on Oct 10, 2020 12:13:56 GMT
...The doubters, the doomsters, the gloomsters, they are going to get it #WRONG
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Post by pendragon on Oct 10, 2020 12:14:43 GMT
Does anyone think Giggs has been really intelligent about the Ramsey situation this break? The more I think about it, it could be a master stroke. Giggs knew we were likely to get beaten by England and morale may be low, what better to lift morale ahead of 2 vital games than Aaron Ramsey turning up just ahead of it? Maybe I’m overthinking, but whatever has happened this is going to be a massive morale boost for the squad. I don't think Giggs does play many of our top attacking players and midfielders for friendlies regardless. Spain, Trinidad and England have not featured Bale or Ramsey, even when fit. I think Brooks only played a bit-part role against Spain if I remember correctly. Not that I'm complaining. Giggs might view them as opportunities for his younger players to experience playing against the best, and little more than that. He needs the likes of Ramsey, Moore, Brooks, James and Bale fit as much as possible for our competitive fixtures. |
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Post by dai on Oct 10, 2020 12:34:21 GMT
Never in doubt bois bach. Name and shame which fools doubted him in the first place.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 10, 2020 13:41:11 GMT
Interesting article about Oliver Norwood here on why he won't be coming back from international retirement "The 29-year-old admits his body had told him it was the right time to focus on his club career. 'I always found that the first two or three games after an international break I was struggling,' he said. Blades vice-captain Norwood felt that after playing international football from the age of 16, his body 'was screaming out for a break'." He also cites that he always considered his club career to be more important than his international one - which obviously isn't a good thing. However, it does show the need to manage our best players game time when they come away and play for us www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54491449 |
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Post by texan on Oct 10, 2020 13:47:34 GMT
Saw that he wasn’t wearing a FAW/Adidas branded mask on the flight over in his tweet last night though.
Drop the uncommitted b@stard!
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Post by dai on Oct 10, 2020 17:42:22 GMT
The man, the myth, the mystery. He looks happy.
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Post by manulike on Oct 10, 2020 18:03:15 GMT
The man, the mystery, the myth. He looks happy. Looks like he is not quite used to the biting chill of Dublin. Someone get him a pair of leggings and a woolly hat. Bless ;-)
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Post by foxmulder on Oct 12, 2020 15:20:13 GMT
I see he just posted on Instgram that it's his twins' 2nd birthday today. They're in Italy whilst he's with Wales.
Maybe some people here don't have kids and I certainly used to have quite a passive attitude with this stuff, but it would kill me if I missed my kid's birthday (who just turned two as well).
I don't books tours for my band over my kid's birthday. Damn, most people book the day off work.
Aaron Ramsey has turned up for international duty.
That's commitment.
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Post by pendragon on Oct 12, 2020 16:20:26 GMT
I see he just posted on Instgram that it's his twins' 2nd birthday today. They're in Italy whilst he's with Wales. Maybe some people here don't have kids and I certainly used to have quite a passive attitude with this stuff, but it would kill me if I missed my kid's birthday (who just turned two as well). I don't books tours for my band over my kid's birthday. Damn, most people book the day off work. Aaron Ramsey has turned up for international duty. That's commitment. Hopefully he'll make it upto them with a huge party |
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Post by dai on Oct 12, 2020 16:24:33 GMT
Hopefully he scores twins wednesday.
(That sounds a bit wrong doesn't it?)
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Post by manulike on Oct 12, 2020 18:09:06 GMT
Hopefully he scores twins wednesday. (That sounds a bit wrong doesn't it?) Wrong? Not at all. Probably the most optimistic thing you wrote since September ;-)
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Post by dai on Oct 12, 2020 20:01:51 GMT
Ahhhh, lovely that is. Ma fe'n gariad o grwt.
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Post by alarch on Oct 13, 2020 9:13:13 GMT
His Cymraeg is impressive, certainly better than Hartson's (not that I have a problem with Hartson's Cymraeg: gwell shit Cymraeg na dim Cymraeg).
Such a shame that for so many years Ramsey lacked the confidence to do interviews in Cymraeg. Mind you, we probably lacked the likes of Ian Gwyn Hughes in the past to give him the confidence, and conduct the sort of low key interviews that are happening now, rather than the much more intense pre- and post-match interviews that were probably expected of him in the past.
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Post by iot on Oct 13, 2020 12:18:04 GMT
IGH is an absolute hero
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 13, 2020 13:44:27 GMT
Oh ffs!!! Can we catch a break?!!
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Post by dai on Oct 13, 2020 13:51:20 GMT
OH, FUCK OFFFFFFF
I take it back, he's most definitely not a gariad of a grwt.
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