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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2012 19:51:12 GMT
its a terrible shout.
Ramsey had a bit of a free role today - he had license to move infield which he did frequently
you lot sound like desperados -which of course you will be as wales fans with coleman and his team in charge.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Sept 23, 2012 20:01:07 GMT
Desperados because we are chuffed with how Ramsey played today? why couldn't he have a free role from the right with Wales, Allen and Vaughan could do the playmaking keeping the ball roles and Collison with license to break forward!
Again its more options which is good for us.
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Post by alarch on Sept 23, 2012 20:05:10 GMT
If both Bale and Ramsey play tucked in, rather than near the touchline this could be a success, with the full backs providing the width. This still begs the question of who could play in the advanced position of the central three? Allen would be great in this role if he were not required further back. Vaughan might be a good option, with Ledley alongside Allen.
As it stands I would go Allen and Vaughan as the holding two, with Ramsey staying in the centre, in a more advanced position and Bale and Joniesta or HRK out wide. But it's worth considering alternatives for sure.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Sept 23, 2012 21:20:52 GMT
Well played Rambo. Hopefully it will shut the fickle Arsenal fans up.
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Post by northerndragon on Sept 24, 2012 12:45:26 GMT
its a terrible shout. Ramsey had a bit of a free role today - he had license to move infield which he did frequently you lot sound like desperados -which of course you will be as wales fans with coleman and his team in charge. Desperado's? As much as a Desperado as playing Simon Church on the right or left?!? Ramsey has been awful in the centre the last couple of games, if he's playing well on the right he should be played there. We clearly need to change things up, not keep doing the same thing at the moment
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 24, 2012 13:23:48 GMT
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” ~ Albert Einstein
If Coleman plays Church on the left again vs Scotland then we'll have to conclude that he's mental.
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Post by muaythai on Sept 24, 2012 16:14:23 GMT
I was really impressed with Ramsey on Sunday. He was up there with one of the best players on the pitch and I am one of his biggest critics of late. Well Done Aaron more please?
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Post by Tim P on Sept 24, 2012 16:53:20 GMT
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” ~ Albert Einstein If Coleman plays Church on the left again vs Scotland then we'll have to conclude that he's mental. BOOM.
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Post by richieagfc on Sept 24, 2012 20:04:52 GMT
Yes Ramsey top class on Sunday couldn't work out what position he was playing although he didn't spend much time on the right!, confidence is everything in football - and he needs some big time!
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Post by Tim P on Sept 24, 2012 21:05:51 GMT
58/62 pass completion - that's excellent, and it's what we desperately need him to do when playing for Cymru.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2012 21:07:52 GMT
Desperados because we are chuffed with how Ramsey played today? why couldn't he have a free role from the right with Wales, Allen and Vaughan could do the playmaking keeping the ball roles and Collison with license to break forward! Again its more options which is good for us. exactly :L:L people having a go at Coleman just for the sake of it, have a go at anything, i find it funny
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 9:59:07 GMT
Let's have a chat after the Scotland debacle.
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Post by llannerch on Sept 25, 2012 11:24:51 GMT
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” ~ Albert Einstein If Coleman plays Church on the left again vs Scotland then we'll have to conclude that he's mental. BOOM. He played on the right in the last two games didn't he??
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 25, 2012 20:34:18 GMT
We seem to be getting someof our better midfileders back. Ledley has just come on for the last half hour for Celtic. Vaughan started for Sunderland. Unfortunately Colemans favoured strikers still can't find ny form this season though. Time to go with Trendy's Spain-style no striker formation?
----------------Myhill Gunter--Blake--Williams--Matthews ------Allen-----Vaughan---Ledley Ramsey-------Bale-------Bellamy
I'd prefer this to playing completely out of form forwards who've forgotten where the goal is. On technical ability, that front six absolutely shits on any front six Scotland could put out. Food for thought for Cookie?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 12:05:57 GMT
We seem to be getting someof our better midfileders back. Ledley has just come on for the last half hour for Celtic. Vaughan started for Sunderland. Unfortunately Colemans favoured strikers still can't find ny form this season though. Time to go with Trendy's Spain-style no striker formation? ----------------Myhill Gunter--Blake--Williams--Matthews ------Allen-----Vaughan---Ledley Ramsey-------Bale-------Bellamy I'd prefer this to playing completely out of form forwards who've forgotten where the goal is. On technical ability, that front six absolutely shits on any front six Scotland could put out. Food for thought for Cookie? Agreed with that - and the side - aside from Matthews. Would put Ricketts in ahead of him. Matthews' time shall come when he's a regular - but Ricketts looked a lot steadier for me when he got on against Serbia.
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Post by llannerch on Sept 26, 2012 12:17:10 GMT
Agreed with that - and the side - aside from Matthews. Would put Ricketts in ahead of him. Matthews' time shall come when he's a regular - but Ricketts looked a lot steadier for me when he got on against Belgium and dare I mention it - Serbia. Ricketts didn't play against Belguim
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2012 11:06:43 GMT
Ramsey's in the Arsenal side to play Chelsea shortly. All the best Aaron!
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 4, 2012 0:06:43 GMT
Decent run and finish for his goal against Olympiakos
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Post by luke on Oct 4, 2012 10:07:03 GMT
So happy to see him doing well. Still has amazing quality.
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Post by welshwizard79 on Oct 4, 2012 12:49:37 GMT
Well done Rambo. Good goal.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 3, 2012 20:37:18 GMT
When Rambo went to Arsenal I thought 'great- perfect place for him to develop as a player' Trouble is, the gooners appear to have now made him the scapegoat for the fact they haven't won a trophy in ages. I watched him vs Man Utd today and QPR last week, and although he wasn't great, I didn't think he was any worse than Carzola or Podolski. But the level of vitriol from Arse fans is way over the top. The club is in a bit of a rut with lots of restless and frustrated fans and I wonder if Ramsey would thrive somewhere where there is less pressure? Possibly abroad? Or even back at Cardiff if they get promoted??
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Nov 3, 2012 20:48:33 GMT
Im dissapointed he didnt join Fulham on loan at the start of the season they play some good footy, they are a decent side and he would become thier main playmaker.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 20:58:42 GMT
Hes not up to it at the moment, will have to make a drastic career change to get back on track- somewhere where he will be a big fish so he is guaranteed to be involved regularly, lower prem or possibly upper championship side.
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Post by Tim P on Nov 3, 2012 21:30:19 GMT
or possibly upper championship side. Laughable. If it was me, and I had Ramsey's skillset, I'd be looking to play in Spain, Italy or Germany. He'd get a good club no problem, and a good couple of seasons could see him move to an elite project in whichever country it was. I'll put this out there, should he stay in the epl: Liverpool.
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Post by abwales on Nov 3, 2012 22:48:34 GMT
He's been no good in 95% of the games he's played in since the injury, I've watched pretty much all of them. When you've been useless for so long, of course you're going to get more criticism than a Podolski or a Cazorla who have been good overall in their short spells at Arsenal.
I have no idea what he could do to get his career on track, I fear for his future.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 3, 2012 22:59:01 GMT
He's been no good in 95% of the games he's played in since the injury --------- Also laughable. He played 40+ times for the gooners last season. Arsenal finished 3rd and reached the last 16 of the champions league.
I tend to think a move abroad (to the right club) would be the best idea for getting his career back on track. Arsenal on the whole have been on a downward slide for years now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 0:35:55 GMT
He's been no good in 95% of the games he's played in since the injury --------- Also laughable. He played 40+ times for the gooners last season. Arsenal finished 3rd and reached the last 16 of the champions league. I tend to think a move abroad (to the right club) would be the best idea for getting his career back on track. Arsenal on the whole have been on a downward slide for years now. Agreed with this, move to Spain or Italy Rambo. Remember he was linked with Inter Milan? BUT I think a lot of performances this season for Arsenal he's been class, he was very good against Scotland IMO, I have no worries what-so-ever over Aaron Ramsey, top class player, always will be and he's only going to get better and better.
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Post by saints19 on Nov 4, 2012 1:16:29 GMT
Fulham would have been a good move, I agree. Everton or somewhere similar would be good too. Can't help but feel he will not be the player he could have been before his injury, though.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 4, 2012 11:43:15 GMT
People who think Ramsey should go to a 'lower prem or upper championship side' completely underestimate his level of ability. Maybe he's not showing it enough at the moment, but I would put that down to a lack of confidence rather than a lack of ability. He's 21 years old and must have played in 20+ champions league games already. There's probably not many players younger than him with more CL appearances around at the moment.
If a top Bundesliga or Serie A club come in for him he should seriously consider it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 12:00:00 GMT
He should definitely tell arsenal to fuck off now.
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