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Post by jbt95 on Jan 26, 2022 14:07:56 GMT
No idea why some are so snobbish about Burnley tbh. A tidy Premier League club doing things the right way. They will be in the championship come June. Probably April.
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Post by insertname on Jan 26, 2022 14:49:40 GMT
No idea why some are so snobbish about Burnley tbh. A tidy Premier League club doing things the right way. At the end of the day Ramsey isn't getting any younger and has hardly played in Italy. His options are going to be limited. If he goes to Newcastle the liklihood is he'll lose his place in 6 months if they stay up and start signing even better and more expensive players. At least somewhere like Burney he'd be loved and become a focal point. The thing that interests me about Burnley, is that they god rid of Wood, their local journo reports that they want to move to a more mobile and pacy front three and then they declare interest in Ramsey…seems like Dyche is trying to overhaul their reputation so a move to Burnley in a footballing sense may not be a bad one…in a practical sense though relegation seems inevitable although they do have three games in hand…For Wales is Burnley better than no football at all and staying at Juventus? I don’t see it happening though. Suspect he will still be at Juventus come February waiting to see what the summer brings when transfers are less reactionary/about short term fixes than January and with more long term planning in mind
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Post by cynonvalley on Jan 29, 2022 14:58:57 GMT
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Post by insertname on Jan 29, 2022 16:15:03 GMT
BBC now reporting (via Italian media) that he’s due to stay at Juventus after rejecting Villa, Palace, Wolves, Burnley and Newcastle. If it’s true that he’s rejected so many clubs you have to wonder what he’s hoping to achieve? I can’t blame him for turning down Burnley and holding Juve to his contract but his reputation has taken a battering at Juventus (Villa fans didn’t seem to be happy at all at being linked with him) and providing Juventus are paying the short fall in his wages (which it sounds like they would be) it’s surely better to be playing at a semi-decent standard than frozen out? I don’t think he’s got much chance of playing champions league football for the foreseeable future if that’s what he’s holding out for given that he’s so injury prone and Allegri considers him not even useful enough for the bench.
I just don’t see him moving last minute, so I expect with 3 days to go that he is staying where he is, so likely to be fit for the play offs, but without match practice.
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Post by iot on Jan 29, 2022 19:05:08 GMT
BBC now reporting (via Italian media) that he’s due to stay at Juventus after rejecting Villa, Palace, Wolves, Burnley and Newcastle. If it’s true that he’s rejected so many clubs you have to wonder what he’s hoping to achieve? I can’t blame him for turning down Burnley and holding Juve to his contract but his reputation has taken a battering at Juventus (Villa fans didn’t seem to be happy at all at being linked with him) and providing Juventus are paying the short fall in his wages (which it sounds like they would be) it’s surely better to be playing at a semi-decent standard than frozen out? I don’t think he’s got much chance of playing champions league football for the foreseeable future if that’s what he’s holding out for given that he’s so injury prone and Allegri considers him not even useful enough for the bench. I just don’t see him moving last minute, so I expect with 3 days to go that he is staying where he is, so likely to be fit for the play offs, but without match practice. 'BBC now reporting (via Italian media) that he’s due to stay at Juventus after rejecting Villa, Palace, Wolves, Burnley and Newcastle.' If I'm not mistaken, that was on BBC's gossip column right? So not BBC reporting, but just a collation of reports from the papers - mostly the sun, star, mail and the like. It certainly sounds like he's rejected burnley, and possibly newcastle, but most reports i've seen are that palace decided not to go for him. Not sure on the other clubs, if there was anything there more than gossip in the papers.
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Post by insertname on Jan 29, 2022 19:58:47 GMT
BBC now reporting (via Italian media) that he’s due to stay at Juventus after rejecting Villa, Palace, Wolves, Burnley and Newcastle. If it’s true that he’s rejected so many clubs you have to wonder what he’s hoping to achieve? I can’t blame him for turning down Burnley and holding Juve to his contract but his reputation has taken a battering at Juventus (Villa fans didn’t seem to be happy at all at being linked with him) and providing Juventus are paying the short fall in his wages (which it sounds like they would be) it’s surely better to be playing at a semi-decent standard than frozen out? I don’t think he’s got much chance of playing champions league football for the foreseeable future if that’s what he’s holding out for given that he’s so injury prone and Allegri considers him not even useful enough for the bench. I just don’t see him moving last minute, so I expect with 3 days to go that he is staying where he is, so likely to be fit for the play offs, but without match practice. 'BBC now reporting (via Italian media) that he’s due to stay at Juventus after rejecting Villa, Palace, Wolves, Burnley and Newcastle.' If I'm not mistaken, that was on BBC's gossip column right? So not BBC reporting, but just a collation of reports from the papers - mostly the sun, star, mail and the like. It certainly sounds like he's rejected burnley, and possibly newcastle, but most reports i've seen are that palace decided not to go for him. Not sure on the other clubs, if there was anything there more than gossip in the papers. The BBC are quoting an Italian news source. From reading the juventus forum it seems there are a few variations going around, the constant seems to be Newcastle and Burnley. It seems plausible that they have declared firm interest. It’s crazy how he has become a hate figure on the Juventus forum, like seriously nasty stuff wishing injury on him simply for holding to the contract Juventus offered him. Let’s be fair if it was any of us we would be reluctant to leave if it meant losing out on a lot of money.
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Post by georgetm1 on Jan 29, 2022 23:33:45 GMT
Juventus are 5th in Serie A. Ramsey will outlast Allegri.
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 29, 2022 23:36:29 GMT
With the World Cup being in Nov/Dec, staying and not playing for the next few months could be a masterstroke.
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Post by superunknown on Jan 31, 2022 9:43:40 GMT
Rumours he could be going to Rangers, could be a good move
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 31, 2022 10:31:55 GMT
Rumours he could be going to Rangers, could be a good move Fuck me I never saw that coming. I’m sure Newcastle will offer a loan paying his wages. Aaron must just want easy games
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Post by talyfan on Jan 31, 2022 10:42:41 GMT
Good move for him if he can get it.
Team that dominates the league, good standard of players [relative to the level] playing alongside him and they're that good probably less expectation for him to feature every game hopefully but could be wrong.
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Post by gimli on Jan 31, 2022 11:00:44 GMT
I'd rather he didn't go to the union flag shaggers tbh. But I suppose if the options are that or not playing at all between now and the playoffs it'll have to do.
Don't understand why he'd reject PL moves and accept this though? Unless as mentioned above he just wants an easy ride now.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Jan 31, 2022 11:22:15 GMT
Terrible move at this point. Bound to be some jock willing to take one for the team and put Ramsey out of the potential play off final.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 11:34:49 GMT
That wouldn't take much would it.
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Post by cynonvalley on Jan 31, 2022 11:55:49 GMT
DON'T GO TO RANGERS
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 31, 2022 12:12:23 GMT
No no no, not the bloody unionists, worst move he could do from a political point of view
The idea of him going on loan to Scotland isn't the worst as people have suggested. Easy games in a dominate team will help us greatly for March. But...
The perception will be that his stock has fallen if he goes there. A summer move to a Premier League team seems harder then. Why reject Premier League clubs to go to Scotland? That's very strange. And if you do go, at least go to Celtic. I can't stand Rangers and what they stand for
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Post by cynonvalley on Jan 31, 2022 12:14:54 GMT
Hopefully, Joe Ledley is trying to convince him otherwise.
Can't he just go to the club on the continent...
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Post by foxmulder on Jan 31, 2022 12:18:04 GMT
This doesn't make sense.
Why would he reject Burnley if "he wanted to join a bigger club?" Has a plan of his failed spectacularly?
Oh God, please don't be true?
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Post by foxmulder on Jan 31, 2022 12:19:06 GMT
Hopefully, Joe Ledley is trying to convince him otherwise. Can't he just go to the club on the continent... And Craig
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 31, 2022 12:30:40 GMT
This doesn't make sense. Why would he reject Burnley if "he wanted to join a bigger club?" Has a plan of his failed spectacularly? Oh God, please don't be true? Chance of playing under a legend of the game and European football. Chance of winning a trophy. Or go to Burnley and get relegated.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 31, 2022 12:33:30 GMT
This doesn't make sense. Why would he reject Burnley if "he wanted to join a bigger club?" Has a plan of his failed spectacularly? Oh God, please don't be true? Whether you like them or not, Rangers are a bigger club than Burnley. They aren't in a bigger league and their turnover is likely less, but they're definitely bigger. I don't align with the politics of Rangers, but I don't think it's as bad of a move as some make out. He likely won't be worked as hard in that team, and will no doubt be a star there so he should take a fresh pair of legs and a massive ego into these playoff games. I'd prefer this than him going to Burnley, where he'd be worked a lot harder just to get battered week in week out.
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Post by gwernybwch on Jan 31, 2022 12:34:46 GMT
No no no, not the bloody unionists, worst move he could do from a political point of view The idea of him going on loan to Scotland isn't the worst as people have suggested. Easy games in a dominate team will help us greatly for March. But...The perception will be that his stock has fallen if he goes there. A summer move to a Premier League team seems harder then. Why reject Premier League clubs to go to Scotland? That's very strange. And if you do go, at least go to Celtic. I can't stand Rangers and what they stand for I'll guarantee that there will be some Jock wannabe or neverhasbeen that will want to kick lumps out of him. There is no way he would stay injury free until the end of March playing up there.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 31, 2022 12:47:44 GMT
No no no, not the bloody unionists, worst move he could do from a political point of view The idea of him going on loan to Scotland isn't the worst as people have suggested. Easy games in a dominate team will help us greatly for March. But...The perception will be that his stock has fallen if he goes there. A summer move to a Premier League team seems harder then. Why reject Premier League clubs to go to Scotland? That's very strange. And if you do go, at least go to Celtic. I can't stand Rangers and what they stand for I'll guarantee that there will be some Jock wannabe or neverhasbeen that will want to kick lumps out of him. There is no way he would stay injury free until the end of March playing up there. I don't buy this. The only one I can really see having a go on Rambo is Scott Brown who now plays for *checks notes* Aberdeen, who face Rangers on *checks notes* 5th March. Oh god.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 31, 2022 13:08:03 GMT
The reaction it's provoking is worth it alone. People are losing their minds on social media.
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Post by insertname on Jan 31, 2022 13:16:07 GMT
This doesn't make sense. Why would he reject Burnley if "he wanted to join a bigger club?" Has a plan of his failed spectacularly? Oh God, please don't be true? Whether you like them or not, Rangers are a bigger club than Burnley. They aren't in a bigger league and their turnover is likely less, but they're definitely bigger. I don't align with the politics of Rangers, but I don't think it's as bad of a move as some make out. He likely won't be worked as hard in that team, and will no doubt be a star there so he should take a fresh pair of legs and a massive ego into these playoff games. I'd prefer this than him going to Burnley, where he'd be worked a lot harder just to get battered week in week out. Ross County on a wet Tuesday night? If I was an injury prone player that would make my blood run cold. He can’t have any even half decent offers if he’s contemplating Rangers. The big question is how are they even affording his wages? They won’t have anywhere near the funds of a crap prem team and apparently it’s a loan with the option to buy with Juventus paying 30%. How are Rangers able to commit to 70%, let alone 30%? The whole thing makes no sense for everyone apart from Juventus.
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Post by cynonvalley on Jan 31, 2022 13:21:27 GMT
Hopefully they won't be able to afford him.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 31, 2022 13:31:00 GMT
Whether you like them or not, Rangers are a bigger club than Burnley. They aren't in a bigger league and their turnover is likely less, but they're definitely bigger. I don't align with the politics of Rangers, but I don't think it's as bad of a move as some make out. He likely won't be worked as hard in that team, and will no doubt be a star there so he should take a fresh pair of legs and a massive ego into these playoff games. I'd prefer this than him going to Burnley, where he'd be worked a lot harder just to get battered week in week out. Ross County on a wet Tuesday night? If I was an injury prone player that would make my blood run cold. He can’t have any even half decent offers if he’s contemplating Rangers. The big question is how are they even affording his wages? They won’t have anywhere near the funds of a crap prem team and apparently it’s a loan with the option to buy with Juventus paying 30%. How are Rangers able to commit to 70%, let alone 30%? The whole thing makes no sense for everyone apart from Juventus. The Premier League is a much more difficult league to keep fit in than the SPL. The demands are just far greater. I appreciate the SPL is probably more physical, but I just don't see Ramsey being cropped to the extent others do. Will players at that level even get near him?
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Post by insertname on Jan 31, 2022 13:31:48 GMT
Hopefully they won't be able to afford him. Seems like he’s in Scotland now so they must very much be able to afford him for it to have got to this stage 🤷♂️ At least the Rangers fans seem enthusiastic, that probably makes it a half decent move if nothing else. Villa fans were not amused to be linked with him. He’s got a reputation as “that bloke at Juventus who’s always injured” that he needs to shake off
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Post by insertname on Jan 31, 2022 13:37:00 GMT
Ross County on a wet Tuesday night? If I was an injury prone player that would make my blood run cold. He can’t have any even half decent offers if he’s contemplating Rangers. The big question is how are they even affording his wages? They won’t have anywhere near the funds of a crap prem team and apparently it’s a loan with the option to buy with Juventus paying 30%. How are Rangers able to commit to 70%, let alone 30%? The whole thing makes no sense for everyone apart from Juventus. The Premier League is a much more difficult league to keep fit in than the SPL. The demands are just far greater. I appreciate the SPL is probably more physical, but I just don't see Ramsey being cropped to the extent others do. Will players at that level even get near him? He’s hardly got blistering pace, although never mind the players the pitches are probably bad enough that if Scott Brown doesn’t get him the divots in the pitch at St Johnstone probably will. That being said they don’t have that many fixtures left looking at the calendar. The league ends on April 10th
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 31, 2022 13:49:34 GMT
The Premier League is a much more difficult league to keep fit in than the SPL. The demands are just far greater. I appreciate the SPL is probably more physical, but I just don't see Ramsey being cropped to the extent others do. Will players at that level even get near him? He’s hardly got blistering pace, although never mind the players the pitches are probably bad enough that if Scott Brown doesn’t get him the divots in the pitch at St Johnstone probably will. That being said they don’t have that many fixtures left looking at the calendar. The league ends on April 10th A high level of skill and vision, which Ramsey possesses, can make up for not having blistering pace. He's always had a knack for finding himself in acres of space.
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