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Post by iot on Mar 4, 2018 13:16:15 GMT
Not in today’s match squad Some say they're saving him for AC Milan in midweek having played in two games against City in 4 days, others say it's because of his refusal to sign a new contract and wanting a move. You'd think if the former were true, he would at least be on the bench? |
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Post by manulike on Mar 4, 2018 15:42:25 GMT
Not in today’s match squad Some say they're saving him for AC Milan in midweek having played in two games against City in 4 days, others say it's because of his refusal to sign a new contract and wanting a move. You'd think if the former were true, he would at least be on the bench? I can only hope it's resting him for the Milan match. If that is not the case, then Mr Wenger no longer has a say in picking the team. And I really can't imagine that being the case. Aaron is like a son to him. They have been together for ten years and he gave the man his last three trophies. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Mar 5, 2018 6:52:29 GMT
Some say they're saving him for AC Milan in midweek having played in two games against City in 4 days, others say it's because of his refusal to sign a new contract and wanting a move. You'd think if the former were true, he would at least be on the bench? I can only hope it's resting him for the Milan match. If that is not the case, then Mr Wenger no longer has a say in picking the team. And I really can't imagine that being the case. Aaron is like a son to him. They have been together for ten years and he gave the man his last three trophies. Maybe so but the team are in a mess, it's hard to see who wants to play for Wenger... Ramsey has already showed his desire to leave. |
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 5, 2018 11:52:00 GMT
Some say they're saving him for AC Milan in midweek having played in two games against City in 4 days, others say it's because of his refusal to sign a new contract and wanting a move. You'd think if the former were true, he would at least be on the bench? I can only hope it's resting him for the Milan match. If that is not the case, then Mr Wenger no longer has a say in picking the team. And I really can't imagine that being the case. Aaron is like a son to him. They have been together for ten years and he gave the man his last three trophies. The fans have been arsehole's to him from a young age but they'll moan on the forums when he leaves. Get out Aaron. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 5, 2018 12:57:38 GMT
I can only hope it's resting him for the Milan match. If that is not the case, then Mr Wenger no longer has a say in picking the team. And I really can't imagine that being the case. Aaron is like a son to him. They have been together for ten years and he gave the man his last three trophies. The fans have been arsehole's to him from a young age but they'll moan on the forums when he leaves. Get out Aaron. I agree. He has always been their scapegoat when things go wrong. I believe he could do with a new challenge, maybe Italy, Spain or Germany would do him good? I don’t see him moving to a team higher in the table than Arsenal... small chance of Chelsea maybe? |
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 5, 2018 13:25:11 GMT
The fans have been arsehole's to him from a young age but they'll moan on the forums when he leaves. Get out Aaron. I agree. He has always been their scapegoat when things go wrong. I believe he could do with a new challenge, maybe Italy, Spain or Germany would do him good? I don’t see him moving to a team higher in the table than Arsenal... small chance of Chelsea maybe? Apparently Aaron is massively rated within football, he'll have no trouble finding a new club I'd love for him to go abroad |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 5, 2018 14:14:07 GMT
Strong rumours of Juventus sniffing around.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Mar 5, 2018 14:34:46 GMT
Barcelona have always shown an interest. Would be incredible to have our best two players playing at Real Madrid & Barcelona!
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Post by insertname on Mar 5, 2018 14:41:48 GMT
As with Allen there will be the usual rumours that Bayern, Real Madrid and Juventus are all fighting themselves for his signature...and then he will sign for someone like Bournemouth.
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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 5, 2018 15:47:19 GMT
As with Allen there will be the usual rumours that Bayern, Real Madrid and Juventus are all fighting themselves for his signature...and then he will sign for someone like Bournemouth. My head tells me you may be right... |
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Mar 5, 2018 16:01:56 GMT
No chance will Rambo end up at Bournemouth. He will either stay at Arsenal, or move to a club above Arsenal. If not, he will move abroad. Which is all good for Wales!
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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 5, 2018 16:11:44 GMT
No chance will Rambo end up at Bournemouth. He will either stay at Arsenal, or move to a club above Arsenal. If not, he will move abroad. Which is all good for Wales! I would love this to be true but which of the following do you see him going too? Man City - highly unlikely? Won’t get in the team Liverpool - highly unlikely? Unlikely to get in the team Man Utd - unlikely - see Neville’s recent comments Tottenham - highly unlikely? Arsenal main rivals and their depth in midfield Chelsea - I can see this possible... |
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Post by insertname on Mar 5, 2018 19:25:25 GMT
No chance will Rambo end up at Bournemouth. He will either stay at Arsenal, or move to a club above Arsenal. If not, he will move abroad. Which is all good for Wales! Didn't we all say the same about Allen? The money is too great to leave the Premiership, unless a club like Barcelona come in for him (which they won't) so a tidy signing on fee at a club like West Ham or Bournemouth will eclipse any thoughts of a pay cut to play for a Sevilla or whoever. Without fail every Welsh player up for sale will be linked with a move abroad on here (remember when Atletico were interested in HRK? XD ) yet as of today a British footballer moving abroad is still an extremely rare occurrence. Mostly due to money I expect although possibly culture too- the ones who do go abroad usually return within a season or two. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 20:22:10 GMT
There is the possibility that Chelsea could contain bale Ramsey and ampadu next season.
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Post by zenith on Mar 5, 2018 21:04:54 GMT
Those saying Barca will still be interested are living in dream land. He is nowhere near that now unfortunately, 3-4 seasons ago it might’ve been possible... maybe even after the euros but not now.
I don’t think any of the top 6 would put him in their first XI and there’s no point of him going to a club like United to sit on the bench. I think a move abroad is much more feasible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 21:22:56 GMT
Those saying Barca will still be interested are living in dream land. He is nowhere near that now unfortunately, 3-4 seasons ago it might’ve been possible... maybe even after the euros but not now. I don’t think any of the top 6 would put him in their first XI and there’s no point of him going to a club like United to sit on the bench. I think a move abroad is much more feasible. I think most top managers will understand that a fit Ramsey is highly influential. Two cup final winners and uefa team of the tournament. Plus whenever he’s out, arsenal suffer...but therein lies the rub...he’s out a lot. |
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Post by zenith on Mar 5, 2018 21:36:19 GMT
Those saying Barca will still be interested are living in dream land. He is nowhere near that now unfortunately, 3-4 seasons ago it might’ve been possible... maybe even after the euros but not now. I don’t think any of the top 6 would put him in their first XI and there’s no point of him going to a club like United to sit on the bench. I think a move abroad is much more feasible. I think most top managers will understand that a fit Ramsey is highly influential. Two cup final winners and uefa team of the tournament. Plus whenever he’s out, arsenal suffer...but therein lies the rub...he’s out a lot. He’s hardly been fit at all this season, or last season for that matter. |
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Post by iot on Mar 5, 2018 21:59:41 GMT
Bloody hell, I expected this sort of negativity about him from Arsenal fans but not from us Welsh fans. He's a far better player than most of you give him credit for and the big teams have always been interested in him. The comparisons with Allen are pointless, all of us Welsh fans know Allen is brilliant but there has never been serious talk of the biggest teams interested in him.
Ramsey is massively rated in the game and has done so much for Arsenal that he doesn't get credit for. Even last week when they lost 3-0 against Man City, Ramsey was brilliant. He's scored or assisted 12 goals from 17 premier league starts this season and tops the running stats in every game he plays in. He just gets slated and accused of abandoning his CM duties, even though he's clearly being instructed to make runs in behind the defence because he's such a threat doing that.
When he's on it, there aren't many better CMs in the world. The only thing holding him back are injuries and the fact that he sometimes does take time to get back into his groove after coming back from injury.
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Post by iot on Mar 5, 2018 22:05:28 GMT
Those saying Barca will still be interested are living in dream land. He is nowhere near that now unfortunately, 3-4 seasons ago it might’ve been possible... maybe even after the euros but not now.
I don’t think any of the top 6 would put him in their first XI and there’s no point of him going to a club like United to sit on the bench. I think a move abroad is much more feasible. He's been the difference against Chelsea around 3 or 4 times over the last couple of seasons, including in the FA cup final, and Chelsea start with the likes of drinkwater and bakayoko in midfield. But yeah, Rambo wouldn't make the team. He wouldn't make it ahead of Henderson, Milner and Can at Liverpool, or Gundogan at Man City, or McTominay at Man U? They are all good players, but Ramsey is better. I'm not the type to over hype our players but Ramsey is being completely under appreciated here. |
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Post by iot on Mar 5, 2018 22:07:21 GMT
I think most top managers will understand that a fit Ramsey is highly influential. Two cup final winners and uefa team of the tournament. Plus whenever he’s out, arsenal suffer...but therein lies the rub...he’s out a lot. He’s hardly been fit at all this season, or last season for that matter. He's started 17 of the 29 games and made 2 other sub appearances, meaning he's featured in 66% of the games - and scored or assisted in 12 of them. Facts matter. |
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Post by zenith on Mar 5, 2018 22:31:16 GMT
Those saying Barca will still be interested are living in dream land. He is nowhere near that now unfortunately, 3-4 seasons ago it might’ve been possible... maybe even after the euros but not now.
I don’t think any of the top 6 would put him in their first XI and there’s no point of him going to a club like United to sit on the bench. I think a move abroad is much more feasible. He's been the difference against Chelsea around 3 or 4 times over the last couple of seasons, including in the FA cup final, and Chelsea start with the likes of drinkwater and bakayoko in midfield. But yeah, Rambo wouldn't make the team. He wouldn't make it ahead of Henderson, Milner and Can at Liverpool, or Gundogan at Man City, or McTominay at Man U? They are all good players, but Ramsey is better. I'm not the type to over hype our players but Ramsey is being completely under appreciated here. You honestly think a Man City, United or Chelsea would buy Ramsey after this season he has had at Arsenal? I am as big a Ramsey fan as anyone on here but people are dreaming if they think he would play week in, week out at those clubs. He definitely needs to get out of Arsenal but also the Premier League. |
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Post by iot on Mar 5, 2018 23:02:11 GMT
He's been the difference against Chelsea around 3 or 4 times over the last couple of seasons, including in the FA cup final, and Chelsea start with the likes of drinkwater and bakayoko in midfield. But yeah, Rambo wouldn't make the team. He wouldn't make it ahead of Henderson, Milner and Can at Liverpool, or Gundogan at Man City, or McTominay at Man U? They are all good players, but Ramsey is better. I'm not the type to over hype our players but Ramsey is being completely under appreciated here. You honestly think a Man City, United or Chelsea would buy Ramsey after this season he has had at Arsenal? I am as big a Ramsey fan as anyone on here but people are dreaming if they think he would play week in, week out at those clubs. He definitely needs to get out of Arsenal but also the Premier League. What do you mean 'this season he has had at Arsenal'? He's been having a very good season and probably been their best player! As I've said, he's been directly involved in 12 goals out of 17 games. He was brilliant before his injury and has had a couple of really good performances since. Saying that people are dreaming if they think he would start ahead of Mctominay, henderson, Can, Milner, Gundogan, Drinkwater, Bakayoko etc. is ridiculous. You do him a disservice. "I am as big a Ramsey fan as anyone on here" Clearly not, you seem to think he's not good enough to start ahead of those players I just mentioned. I think he would start ahead of almost any midfielder when he's on form. |
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Post by iot on Mar 5, 2018 23:04:08 GMT
The good thing about Rambo is that he has absolute self-confidence which is why he never lets the fans affect the way he plays. He would never drop down to a team below Arsenal because he knows how good he is.
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Post by ae15 on Mar 6, 2018 1:20:54 GMT
He would 100% get into Chelsea's team. Drinkwater and Bakayoko are slated every game.
He would 100% get into Liverpool's team ahead of Milner and probably Can too - he's been heavily linked with a move to Juventus anyway.
He would 100% get into Man Utd's team ahead of McTominay and Herrera.
He would be in a real fight to get into Spurs' side, but Alli isn't playing well and I think Ramsey could oust him in that position if he were there (he won't move there).
He probably wouldn't get into Man City's team ahead of Fernandinho, Silva and de Bruyne, but they rotate Fernandinho and Silva quite a lot, so he would get a fair chunk of game time.
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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 6, 2018 3:35:14 GMT
Those saying Barca will still be interested are living in dream land. He is nowhere near that now unfortunately, 3-4 seasons ago it might’ve been possible... maybe even after the euros but not now.
I don’t think any of the top 6 would put him in their first XI and there’s no point of him going to a club like United to sit on the bench. I think a move abroad is much more feasible. He's been the difference against Chelsea around 3 or 4 times over the last couple of seasons, including in the FA cup final, and Chelsea start with the likes of drinkwater and bakayoko in midfield. But yeah, Rambo wouldn't make the team. He wouldn't make it ahead of Henderson, Milner and Can at Liverpool, or Gundogan at Man City, or McTominay at Man U? They are all good players, but Ramsey is better. I'm not the type to over hype our players but Ramsey is being completely under appreciated here. Difference is Ramsey is an AM, the ones you gave named are predominantly DM’s (Milner plays left back) I personally rate him but listed the reasons why I don’t think he will be starting at a club above Arsenal (excl Chelsea maybe) The English press and football fans are the ones who don’t rate him. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 6, 2018 3:37:39 GMT
Whilst we are having this discussion does anybody think he should stay at Arsenal?
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Mar 6, 2018 11:28:19 GMT
Think people are underestimating Ramsey. Hes one of very few top class players at Arsenal, when fit, he is their most influential player. I can see both Chelsea and United being interested from England, can still see Barcelona or a top European club looking at him, especially as its likely to be cheap(ish) with his contract running down. To suggest he should be looking at a club like Bournemouth is quite absurd. Hes not warming the bench at Arsenal, hes not Wilshere who needed game time.
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Post by iot on Mar 6, 2018 14:15:59 GMT
He's been the difference against Chelsea around 3 or 4 times over the last couple of seasons, including in the FA cup final, and Chelsea start with the likes of drinkwater and bakayoko in midfield. But yeah, Rambo wouldn't make the team. He wouldn't make it ahead of Henderson, Milner and Can at Liverpool, or Gundogan at Man City, or McTominay at Man U? They are all good players, but Ramsey is better. I'm not the type to over hype our players but Ramsey is being completely under appreciated here. Difference is Ramsey is an AM, the ones you gave named are predominantly DM’s (Milner plays left back) I personally rate him but listed the reasons why I don’t think he will be starting at a club above Arsenal (excl Chelsea maybe) The English press and football fans are the ones who don’t rate him. I don't see him as an AM personally, I see him more as an all action, box to box midfielder who can do a bit of everything. The roles the likes of Henderson, Milner, Can and Gundogan occupy are not that dissimilar, take your point on the likes of Bakayoko and McTominay though. |
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Post by manulike on Mar 6, 2018 14:30:01 GMT
Whilst we are having this discussion does anybody think he should stay at Arsenal? YES. OF COURSE. Although I wouldn't mind if he came back home to Cardiff, either :+) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 14:49:35 GMT
In the past i've defended him to the hills, but now I am less inclined to.
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