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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 15, 2018 10:03:09 GMT
BBC believe he will be selected? Giggs received a lot of abuse for missing friendlies. Will the Welsh public turn on Ramsey the same way? A simple look at Ramsey’s friendly record so far should stop that I agree, but some people have short memories. Whilst Giggs should receive some criticism, the abuse has gone over the top. Ramsey also missed Panama home after playing against France so does appear to be managing his game time. If this means he is fit and available for qualifiers then I am happy with this as long as it is communicated the right way. |
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Post by manulike on Mar 15, 2018 14:47:30 GMT
To be fair, even Wenger has been using our kid quite sparingly this season.
I have no complaints. Not even if he doesn't go to the US either.
As long as he scored the winner in Copenhagen in September :+)
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Post by BA Baracus on Mar 15, 2018 16:03:03 GMT
I watched the press conference live... when pressed on the nature of Ramsey's operation, Giggs said it was a private matter.
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Post by adecolley on Mar 15, 2018 16:05:26 GMT
Hernia? He can't be that bad - he's supposed to be playing tonight. Given his excellence at Euro 2016 he can pretty much do what he wants I reckon
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Post by marsvolta on Mar 15, 2018 20:20:46 GMT
A simple look at Ramsey’s friendly record so far should stop that I agree, but some people have short memories. Whilst Giggs should receive some criticism, the abuse has gone over the top. Ramsey also missed Panama home after playing against France so does appear to be managing his game time. If this means he is fit and available for qualifiers then I am happy with this as long as it is communicated the right way. Communication is the key. If we are informed why he is out and that they are managing an injury then I’m happy with that. Communication was poor with Man Utd and Giggs and this resulted in his poor reputation |
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Post by cymroircarn on Mar 15, 2018 20:34:25 GMT
I agree, but some people have short memories. Whilst Giggs should receive some criticism, the abuse has gone over the top. Ramsey also missed Panama home after playing against France so does appear to be managing his game time. If this means he is fit and available for qualifiers then I am happy with this as long as it is communicated the right way. Communication is the key. If we are informed why he is out and that they are managing an injury then I’m happy with that. Communication was poor with Man Utd and Giggs and this resulted in his poor reputation Yup, I agree 100%. Hopefully Giggs will have learnt from his own experience. |
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Post by bale-droed on Mar 16, 2018 12:32:06 GMT
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Post by manulike on Mar 16, 2018 13:02:49 GMT
There is only ONE big club in London. And he's staying put :+) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 8:39:14 GMT
Chelsea and MU linked with summer swoops this week so far. Mutual interest with juventus apparently.
No sign of Bournemouth yet.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Mar 20, 2018 12:03:22 GMT
There is only ONE big club in London. And he's staying put :+) Yeah but hes not interested in Leyton Orient. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 1, 2018 15:54:51 GMT
Ramsey MOTM for Arsenal today. That op went well then.
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Post by hookd on Apr 5, 2018 20:04:45 GMT
Where are you? Has no one seen Ramsey's double - the second of which was an absolutely 'worldy'!
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 5, 2018 21:11:06 GMT
And to think some think he'll be at Bournemouth in a year or two...
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Post by iot on Apr 5, 2018 21:15:00 GMT
And to think some think he'll be at Bournemouth in a year or two... Or Everton if he's lucky! |
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Post by biwmares on Apr 5, 2018 21:23:54 GMT
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Post by manulike on Apr 5, 2018 21:54:23 GMT
If only Ronaldo would have scored that second Ramsey goal ...
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Post by cymru98 on Apr 6, 2018 6:17:00 GMT
Class player, class goals
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 7:05:54 GMT
Sanchez at Arsenal was terrible for Ramsey.
Horrible selfish poison pill of a player. Great to see him doing nothing at Utd.
Ramsey flourishing without him around is no surprise.
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 6, 2018 9:47:04 GMT
The Independent knows it: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/arsenal-aaron-ramsey-jack-wilshere-underappreciated-europa-league-cska-moscow-a8291141.htmlThere are some things that in this team only Aaron Ramsey can do. Those forward runs off the ball, that instinctive nose for goal, that quality of finishing when he arrives in the box. Arsenal have no one else quite like him, that direct, that relentless, always top of their running stats, and over the past 10 years they have always played their best football with Ramsey in the team. That has been true again this year, even if much of the season has been a familiar tale of muscle strain frustration and a slightly unclear role, neither centred in midfield nor fully free to play as he wants. But to see him slice through Everton with his February hat-trick, or to almost repeat the same feat tonight, is to watch a uniquely dangerous midfielder who is as important as ever to this team. In a team where everyone wants the ball to feet, Ramsey’s running is even more valuable and more decisive. From the first few minutes it was clear that Ramsey was in the mood, playing a sharp one-two with Ozil, bursting into the box and finishing, only for his goal to be ruled out for offside. But Ramsey is never easily discouraged when he has goals on the brain and soon enough he put Arsenal ahead, finding space at the back of the box to receive Hector Bellerin’s cross and finish with power. That was good but Ramsey’s second goal was more difficult, more impressive and more characteristic of how he plays. Breaking into the box, springing the softest offside trap between Sergei Ignashevich and Georgi Schennikov, he ran where he knew Ozil’s chipped pass was headed. The ball looped onto the outside of Ramsey’s right boot, and even in mid-air he imparted just enough pressure to divert it up, over Igor Akinfeev and into the net. A finish of supreme technique and confidence, built on plenty of physical effort too. From that point on it became a quest for Ramsey to bag a hat-trick, what would have been his second of 2018. It was remarkable, given the positions he got himself into, that he did not get it. He nearly scored at the start of the second half, sliced over again soon later and then hit the far post from just inside the box with 13 minutes left. The frustration was obvious, as it would be for any goal-hungry player who could easily have scored four or five. But while the precise winning margin of this low-key first leg is quite important, there is a bigger question over Ramsey that Arsenal need to answer. Which is whether his unique skills and importance to the club is truly appreciated, whether this is the best platform for him, and whether he will stay beyond the length of his current contract, which has just one season left on it. Of course it is not Ramsey but Jack Wilshere – his fitness, his future – which occupies far more of the attention around Arsenal this spring. What is his best role? Will he sign a new deal on reduced terms? Will he be fit enough for the World Cup? Is he back to his best, a standard he last reached in 2011, which now feels like a football lifetime ago. Here tonight, Wilshere worked hard, snapped into tackles and played a pass in the build-up to Ramsey’s opener. But he had nothing like the impact that Ramsey did with or without the ball and was taken off before the end. While the pair were similarly talented teenagers at the start of their careers, there can be little doubt now that Ramsey has surpassed Wilshere as a player. Both players have been unlucky with injuries but Ramsey is a better attacking midfielder, far more dangerous to the opposition, and with more real achievements to his name: more good performances, more goals, two winners in FA Cup finals and better international performances to his name too, after taking Wales to the semi-finals of Euro 2016. But there is still something underappreciated and slightly under-fulfilled about Ramsey, who at the age of 27 is approaching a crossroads in his career. Given all his gifts and energy, it is fair to ask whether he would be a better player now had he been somewhere else for the last few years, working for a manager like Jurgen Klopp or Mauricio Pochettino who could make the most of his talent. But with Ramsey entering his final year here and the club anxious he may run his contract down, there is still a possibility an undervalued player may yet get that chance. |
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Post by iantov on Apr 6, 2018 11:26:56 GMT
From the first few minutes it was clear that Ramsey was in the mood, playing a sharp one-two with Ozil, bursting into the box and finishing, only for his goal to be ruled out for offside. But Ramsey is never easily discouraged when he has goals on the brain and soon enough he put Arsenal ahead, finding space at the back of the box to receive Hector Bellerin’s cross and finish with power. I only saw the first half and he looked to be on top form, world-class even. What a second goal - superb |
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Post by richierich333 on Apr 6, 2018 12:17:44 GMT
Where are you? Has no one seen Ramsey's double - the second of which was an absolutely 'worldy'! I just thought someone else would have already put it up so i didn't bother. Had a great game even without that second goal. He really links up well with Ozil and Wilshere |
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Post by insertname on Apr 6, 2018 17:15:42 GMT
The Independent knows it: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/arsenal-aaron-ramsey-jack-wilshere-underappreciated-europa-league-cska-moscow-a8291141.htmlThere are some things that in this team only Aaron Ramsey can do. Those forward runs off the ball, that instinctive nose for goal, that quality of finishing when he arrives in the box. Arsenal have no one else quite like him, that direct, that relentless, always top of their running stats, and over the past 10 years they have always played their best football with Ramsey in the team. That has been true again this year, even if much of the season has been a familiar tale of muscle strain frustration and a slightly unclear role, neither centred in midfield nor fully free to play as he wants. But to see him slice through Everton with his February hat-trick, or to almost repeat the same feat tonight, is to watch a uniquely dangerous midfielder who is as important as ever to this team. In a team where everyone wants the ball to feet, Ramsey’s running is even more valuable and more decisive. From the first few minutes it was clear that Ramsey was in the mood, playing a sharp one-two with Ozil, bursting into the box and finishing, only for his goal to be ruled out for offside. But Ramsey is never easily discouraged when he has goals on the brain and soon enough he put Arsenal ahead, finding space at the back of the box to receive Hector Bellerin’s cross and finish with power. That was good but Ramsey’s second goal was more difficult, more impressive and more characteristic of how he plays. Breaking into the box, springing the softest offside trap between Sergei Ignashevich and Georgi Schennikov, he ran where he knew Ozil’s chipped pass was headed. The ball looped onto the outside of Ramsey’s right boot, and even in mid-air he imparted just enough pressure to divert it up, over Igor Akinfeev and into the net. A finish of supreme technique and confidence, built on plenty of physical effort too. From that point on it became a quest for Ramsey to bag a hat-trick, what would have been his second of 2018. It was remarkable, given the positions he got himself into, that he did not get it. He nearly scored at the start of the second half, sliced over again soon later and then hit the far post from just inside the box with 13 minutes left. The frustration was obvious, as it would be for any goal-hungry player who could easily have scored four or five. But while the precise winning margin of this low-key first leg is quite important, there is a bigger question over Ramsey that Arsenal need to answer. Which is whether his unique skills and importance to the club is truly appreciated, whether this is the best platform for him, and whether he will stay beyond the length of his current contract, which has just one season left on it. Of course it is not Ramsey but Jack Wilshere – his fitness, his future – which occupies far more of the attention around Arsenal this spring. What is his best role? Will he sign a new deal on reduced terms? Will he be fit enough for the World Cup? Is he back to his best, a standard he last reached in 2011, which now feels like a football lifetime ago. Here tonight, Wilshere worked hard, snapped into tackles and played a pass in the build-up to Ramsey’s opener. But he had nothing like the impact that Ramsey did with or without the ball and was taken off before the end. While the pair were similarly talented teenagers at the start of their careers, there can be little doubt now that Ramsey has surpassed Wilshere as a player. Both players have been unlucky with injuries but Ramsey is a better attacking midfielder, far more dangerous to the opposition, and with more real achievements to his name: more good performances, more goals, two winners in FA Cup finals and better international performances to his name too, after taking Wales to the semi-finals of Euro 2016. But there is still something underappreciated and slightly under-fulfilled about Ramsey, who at the age of 27 is approaching a crossroads in his career. Given all his gifts and energy, it is fair to ask whether he would be a better player now had he been somewhere else for the last few years, working for a manager like Jurgen Klopp or Mauricio Pochettino who could make the most of his talent. But with Ramsey entering his final year here and the club anxious he may run his contract down, there is still a possibility an undervalued player may yet get that chance. Sums it up quite well. He is a player that lives in the shadows. Not box office, for whatever reason. Which is why I struggle to see him doing better than Arsenal. Would any club with ambition to win the champions league and money to burn be looking at Ramsey to be their number 10? Sorry, I don't think he has been consistently good enough over the years to generate that sort of profile. Nice goal though and would have had far more exposure had it been scored by Ronaldo. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 18:38:03 GMT
The Independent knows it: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/arsenal-aaron-ramsey-jack-wilshere-underappreciated-europa-league-cska-moscow-a8291141.htmlThere are some things that in this team only Aaron Ramsey can do. Those forward runs off the ball, that instinctive nose for goal, that quality of finishing when he arrives in the box. Arsenal have no one else quite like him, that direct, that relentless, always top of their running stats, and over the past 10 years they have always played their best football with Ramsey in the team. That has been true again this year, even if much of the season has been a familiar tale of muscle strain frustration and a slightly unclear role, neither centred in midfield nor fully free to play as he wants. But to see him slice through Everton with his February hat-trick, or to almost repeat the same feat tonight, is to watch a uniquely dangerous midfielder who is as important as ever to this team. In a team where everyone wants the ball to feet, Ramsey’s running is even more valuable and more decisive. From the first few minutes it was clear that Ramsey was in the mood, playing a sharp one-two with Ozil, bursting into the box and finishing, only for his goal to be ruled out for offside. But Ramsey is never easily discouraged when he has goals on the brain and soon enough he put Arsenal ahead, finding space at the back of the box to receive Hector Bellerin’s cross and finish with power. That was good but Ramsey’s second goal was more difficult, more impressive and more characteristic of how he plays. Breaking into the box, springing the softest offside trap between Sergei Ignashevich and Georgi Schennikov, he ran where he knew Ozil’s chipped pass was headed. The ball looped onto the outside of Ramsey’s right boot, and even in mid-air he imparted just enough pressure to divert it up, over Igor Akinfeev and into the net. A finish of supreme technique and confidence, built on plenty of physical effort too. From that point on it became a quest for Ramsey to bag a hat-trick, what would have been his second of 2018. It was remarkable, given the positions he got himself into, that he did not get it. He nearly scored at the start of the second half, sliced over again soon later and then hit the far post from just inside the box with 13 minutes left. The frustration was obvious, as it would be for any goal-hungry player who could easily have scored four or five. But while the precise winning margin of this low-key first leg is quite important, there is a bigger question over Ramsey that Arsenal need to answer. Which is whether his unique skills and importance to the club is truly appreciated, whether this is the best platform for him, and whether he will stay beyond the length of his current contract, which has just one season left on it. Of course it is not Ramsey but Jack Wilshere – his fitness, his future – which occupies far more of the attention around Arsenal this spring. What is his best role? Will he sign a new deal on reduced terms? Will he be fit enough for the World Cup? Is he back to his best, a standard he last reached in 2011, which now feels like a football lifetime ago. Here tonight, Wilshere worked hard, snapped into tackles and played a pass in the build-up to Ramsey’s opener. But he had nothing like the impact that Ramsey did with or without the ball and was taken off before the end. While the pair were similarly talented teenagers at the start of their careers, there can be little doubt now that Ramsey has surpassed Wilshere as a player. Both players have been unlucky with injuries but Ramsey is a better attacking midfielder, far more dangerous to the opposition, and with more real achievements to his name: more good performances, more goals, two winners in FA Cup finals and better international performances to his name too, after taking Wales to the semi-finals of Euro 2016. But there is still something underappreciated and slightly under-fulfilled about Ramsey, who at the age of 27 is approaching a crossroads in his career. Given all his gifts and energy, it is fair to ask whether he would be a better player now had he been somewhere else for the last few years, working for a manager like Jurgen Klopp or Mauricio Pochettino who could make the most of his talent. But with Ramsey entering his final year here and the club anxious he may run his contract down, there is still a possibility an undervalued player may yet get that chance. Sums it up quite well. He is a player that lives in the shadows. Not box office, for whatever reason. Which is why I struggle to see him doing better than Arsenal. Would any club with ambition to win the champions league and money to burn be looking at Ramsey to be their number 10? Sorry, I don't think he has been consistently good enough over the years to generate that sort of profile. Nice goal though and would have had far more exposure had it been scored by Ronaldo. If an English player performed like Ramsey it would be box office. He is involved in a goal every 100 minutes this season. Better than deli Alli (116), de Bruyne (118), David Silva (130) and eriksen (148). To me he’s box office. A reel of his best goals would confirm this with no shadow of a doubt. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 6, 2018 19:17:44 GMT
Ramsey is the midfielder England have been crying out for.
Lovely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 19:27:02 GMT
Ramsey is the midfielder England have been crying out for. Lovely. That’s what Glenn hoddle said on itv last night ‘I wish he was english’ Then mark pougatch said ‘it’s almost as if Arsenal tying down Ramsey to a new contract is more important than securing a new deal for Jack wilshere’ |
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Post by iot on Apr 6, 2018 20:05:40 GMT
The Independent knows it: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/arsenal-aaron-ramsey-jack-wilshere-underappreciated-europa-league-cska-moscow-a8291141.htmlThere are some things that in this team only Aaron Ramsey can do. Those forward runs off the ball, that instinctive nose for goal, that quality of finishing when he arrives in the box. Arsenal have no one else quite like him, that direct, that relentless, always top of their running stats, and over the past 10 years they have always played their best football with Ramsey in the team. That has been true again this year, even if much of the season has been a familiar tale of muscle strain frustration and a slightly unclear role, neither centred in midfield nor fully free to play as he wants. But to see him slice through Everton with his February hat-trick, or to almost repeat the same feat tonight, is to watch a uniquely dangerous midfielder who is as important as ever to this team. In a team where everyone wants the ball to feet, Ramsey’s running is even more valuable and more decisive. From the first few minutes it was clear that Ramsey was in the mood, playing a sharp one-two with Ozil, bursting into the box and finishing, only for his goal to be ruled out for offside. But Ramsey is never easily discouraged when he has goals on the brain and soon enough he put Arsenal ahead, finding space at the back of the box to receive Hector Bellerin’s cross and finish with power. That was good but Ramsey’s second goal was more difficult, more impressive and more characteristic of how he plays. Breaking into the box, springing the softest offside trap between Sergei Ignashevich and Georgi Schennikov, he ran where he knew Ozil’s chipped pass was headed. The ball looped onto the outside of Ramsey’s right boot, and even in mid-air he imparted just enough pressure to divert it up, over Igor Akinfeev and into the net. A finish of supreme technique and confidence, built on plenty of physical effort too. From that point on it became a quest for Ramsey to bag a hat-trick, what would have been his second of 2018. It was remarkable, given the positions he got himself into, that he did not get it. He nearly scored at the start of the second half, sliced over again soon later and then hit the far post from just inside the box with 13 minutes left. The frustration was obvious, as it would be for any goal-hungry player who could easily have scored four or five. But while the precise winning margin of this low-key first leg is quite important, there is a bigger question over Ramsey that Arsenal need to answer. Which is whether his unique skills and importance to the club is truly appreciated, whether this is the best platform for him, and whether he will stay beyond the length of his current contract, which has just one season left on it. Of course it is not Ramsey but Jack Wilshere – his fitness, his future – which occupies far more of the attention around Arsenal this spring. What is his best role? Will he sign a new deal on reduced terms? Will he be fit enough for the World Cup? Is he back to his best, a standard he last reached in 2011, which now feels like a football lifetime ago. Here tonight, Wilshere worked hard, snapped into tackles and played a pass in the build-up to Ramsey’s opener. But he had nothing like the impact that Ramsey did with or without the ball and was taken off before the end. While the pair were similarly talented teenagers at the start of their careers, there can be little doubt now that Ramsey has surpassed Wilshere as a player. Both players have been unlucky with injuries but Ramsey is a better attacking midfielder, far more dangerous to the opposition, and with more real achievements to his name: more good performances, more goals, two winners in FA Cup finals and better international performances to his name too, after taking Wales to the semi-finals of Euro 2016. But there is still something underappreciated and slightly under-fulfilled about Ramsey, who at the age of 27 is approaching a crossroads in his career. Given all his gifts and energy, it is fair to ask whether he would be a better player now had he been somewhere else for the last few years, working for a manager like Jurgen Klopp or Mauricio Pochettino who could make the most of his talent. But with Ramsey entering his final year here and the club anxious he may run his contract down, there is still a possibility an undervalued player may yet get that chance. Sums it up quite well. He is a player that lives in the shadows. Not box office, for whatever reason. Which is why I struggle to see him doing better than Arsenal. Would any club with ambition to win the champions league and money to burn be looking at Ramsey to be their number 10? Sorry, I don't think he has been consistently good enough over the years to generate that sort of profile. Nice goal though and would have had far more exposure had it been scored by Ronaldo. I find it so strange how some Welsh fans undervalue his ability time and again. He has 16 goals and assists in only 22 starts this season! He's a top quality midfielder who seems destined to be underappreciated by both club and country. |
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Post by iot on Apr 12, 2018 21:12:28 GMT
Thought Ramsey was poor tonight, but kept going until the end in typical Rambo fashion and got a nice goal.
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Post by iot on Apr 12, 2018 22:09:32 GMT
Just seen these Ramsey stats on twitter: 13/14 - 13 goals, 9 assists 14/15 - 10 + 8 15/16 - 6 + 5 16/17 - 4 + 5 17/18 - 9 + 7 TOTAL - 42 goals, 34 assists By my working out, even if he doesn't score/assist another goal this season, that's an average of over 15 direct goal contributions (i.e. goals and assists) per season over the last five years. Not bad for a player who isn't good enough for the top clubs and destined for Bournemouth or Everton  |
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Post by manulike on Apr 12, 2018 22:22:21 GMT
Just seen these Ramsey stats on twitter: 13/14 - 13 goals, 9 assists 14/15 - 10 + 8 15/16 - 6 + 5 16/17 - 4 + 5 17/18 - 9 + 7 TOTAL - 42 goals, 34 assists By my working out, even if he doesn't score/assist another goal this season, that's an average of over 15 direct goal contributions (i.e. goals and assists) per season over the last five years. Not bad for a player who isn't good enough for the top clubs and destined for Bournemouth or Everton Pretty sure that the BT Sport commentator said today's goal was number 10 for the season ;-) |
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Post by insertname on Apr 13, 2018 12:45:44 GMT
Just seen these Ramsey stats on twitter: 13/14 - 13 goals, 9 assists 14/15 - 10 + 8 15/16 - 6 + 5 16/17 - 4 + 5 17/18 - 9 + 7 TOTAL - 42 goals, 34 assists By my working out, even if he doesn't score/assist another goal this season, that's an average of over 15 direct goal contributions (i.e. goals and assists) per season over the last five years. Not bad for a player who isn't good enough for the top clubs and destined for Bournemouth or Everton Well, since you put it like that that's a move to Real Madrid nailed on, he can even have Bale's shirt number! |
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