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Post by alarch on Oct 8, 2019 16:57:29 GMT
If Ramsey had a defensive mindset at one time, then he's definitely lost it. He's struggled defensively far too many times for Wales when playing in a deep-lying role to rely on him in that capacity. I suspect that when he did perform well for Arsenal defensively it was in a three - or he had excellent cover from elsewhere in the team. There's no questioning his attitude or work rate, it's that he lacks the pace off the mark to be an effective defensive mid, and an overly attacking mindset. It's fair to question whether Jonny Williams is suitable in a deeper role too, but he's always had the Allen-like terrier-attributes of a defensive mid. Whether he has the defensive discipline is an open question.
In any event, we're talking about either Ramsey or Jonny Williams playing as a 10, where the defensive contribution is important but secondary. The crucial issue here is not which is the best player overall in that position, because Ramsey wins that contest easily, but how we manage game time of both players over the two games - because we don't have any suitable alternatives in my opinion.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 8, 2019 18:23:28 GMT
Ramsey is a great attacking 8, but not a great defensive 8. He's also a great defensive 10, as well as being a very capable offensive 10. The solution is simple, play him at 10.
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Post by alarch on Oct 8, 2019 18:57:24 GMT
Ramsey is a great attacking 8, but not a great defensive 8. He's also a great defensive 10, as well as being a very capable offensive 10. The solution is simple, play him at 10. Agree entirely, with the proviso that we need to manage his game time over the two games - as we do his deputy, Jonny Williams. Will Giggs be smart enough to work out this conundrum? Or will he go off-piste yet again with square peg in round hole selections? |
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Post by ger93 on Oct 8, 2019 19:55:26 GMT
Ben Davies gave an interview today in Welsh on BBC and said Ramsey trained today. But still no confirmation anywhere else
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 20:27:42 GMT
Ben Davies gave an interview today in Welsh on BBC and said Ramsey trained today. But still no confirmation anywhere else Can't trust Ben Davies. |
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Post by alarch on Oct 8, 2019 21:00:19 GMT
Not still bitter about Ben leaving the Swans jaspert?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 8, 2019 21:40:04 GMT
Ben Davies gave an interview today in Welsh on BBC and said Ramsey trained today. But still no confirmation anywhere else Can't trust Ben Davies. The Swansea rhetoric is getting really boring mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 23:19:07 GMT
It's a joke, lads. Sounded like ger93 is looking for confirmation elsewhere despite a player literally saying Ramsey trained.
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Post by ger93 on Oct 9, 2019 6:43:19 GMT
It's a joke, lads. Sounded like ger93 is looking for confirmation elsewhere despite a player literally saying Ramsey trained. Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. Don’t you think it’s a bit strange there hasn't been confirmation anywhere? |
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Post by cadno on Oct 9, 2019 7:40:10 GMT
It's a joke, lads. Sounded like ger93 is looking for confirmation elsewhere despite a player literally saying Ramsey trained. Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. Don’t you think it’s a bit strange there hasn't been confirmation anywhere? keeping the slovaks on their toes? |
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Post by ger93 on Oct 9, 2019 8:09:22 GMT
Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. Don’t you think it’s a bit strange there hasn't been confirmation anywhere? keeping the slovaks on their toes? Hopefully!! |
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Post by ger93 on Oct 9, 2019 9:37:13 GMT
Open training session this morning, Ramsey training on his own.....
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Post by johnoster on Oct 9, 2019 10:08:15 GMT
Where is the session?
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Post by ger93 on Oct 9, 2019 10:25:32 GMT
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Post by johnoster on Oct 9, 2019 10:29:49 GMT
I went down for a look on Monday and they were all inside.
Tempted to pop down again today.
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Post by impeachabull on Oct 9, 2019 10:44:10 GMT
Guess the big call is tomorrow when the squad travels? Presumably just doing all the can before making a decision this evening.
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Post by dai on Oct 9, 2019 11:00:04 GMT
Guess the big call is tomorrow when the squad travels? Presumably just doing all the can before making a decision this evening. The squad is travelling on game day? I thought they'd be flying out today at least. |
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Post by impeachabull on Oct 9, 2019 11:50:41 GMT
Guess the big call is tomorrow when the squad travels? Presumably just doing all the can before making a decision this evening. The squad is travelling on game day? I thought they'd be flying out today at least. Ha, no you're completely right. I've actually managed to lose complete track of what day it is, and thought it was Tuesday! They do travel today! |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Oct 9, 2019 12:06:22 GMT
Rambo trained with the group today.
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Post by johnoster on Oct 9, 2019 14:06:32 GMT
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Post by hal on Oct 9, 2019 17:05:23 GMT
Ramsey to stay in Cardiff to work on fitness for Croatia on Sunday 😔😔😔
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Post by alarch on Oct 9, 2019 17:16:42 GMT
fyc
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 9, 2019 17:21:58 GMT
All that overplaying for Juventus, fuck Sarri.
I think at this point it'd make more sense to treat Ramsey as a once-a-season luxury indulgence rather than someone we should pin our hopes and dreams on. Build a new midfield around Ampadu, Smith & Allen.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 9, 2019 17:34:46 GMT
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Post by dai on Oct 9, 2019 17:40:31 GMT
Complete load of bollocks, he's out for the double header. Why can't the FAW just say that instead of falsely keeping our hopes up.
If he's 'working on fitness', why can't he do that in Slovakia where all the FAW team will be?
He's probably on a flight back to Italy as we speak.
Don't know why I'm so annoyed as I knew this would be the outcome, but it's the same old shite again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 18:47:49 GMT
Wonder if retirement from international football to prolong his career is on the horizon
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Post by manulike on Oct 9, 2019 19:23:46 GMT
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Post by rico on Oct 9, 2019 19:35:20 GMT
Staying back to play 5 a side. He's got a point to prove
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 10, 2019 6:57:47 GMT
He could squeeze in two sessions of 5 a side if he’s on the ball. That’ll show em!
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Post by johnoster on Oct 10, 2019 7:57:50 GMT
I think the good news is that it's not serious enough for him to be withdrawn from the squad.
A proper thigh strain will keep you out for a month and he wouldn't be training at all.
It'll be frustrating as fuck if he misses both our games then is back playing for Juve in a few weeks, but it's better than him being out for another month and missing the November games.
Clutching at straws here trying to be positive!
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