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Post by corky on Jan 21, 2016 14:58:29 GMT
17,000 available tickets for gold members in the group stages and between the 14,000 gold members there have been 52,000 applications for the three group matches alone.
if 14000 gold members applied for two for each game (28,000) the maximum amount of applications would have been 28,000 x 3 = 84,000 applications and we had 52,000 which is a huge amount of what was possible
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Post by sleepy on Jan 21, 2016 15:16:57 GMT
17,000 available tickets for gold members in the group stages and between the 14,000 gold members there have been 52,000 applications for the three group matches alone.if 14000 gold members applied for two for each game (28,000) the maximum amount of applications would have been 28,000 x 3 = 84,000 applications and we had 52,000 which is a huge amount of what was possible Isn't the 52000 for all the games combined? That's how i read the walesonline article. |
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Post by worsy on Jan 21, 2016 15:18:51 GMT
17,000 available tickets for gold members in the group stages and between the 14,000 gold members there have been 52,000 applications for the three group matches alone.if 14000 gold members applied for two for each game (28,000) the maximum amount of applications would have been 28,000 x 3 = 84,000 applications and we had 52,000 which is a huge amount of what was possible Isn't the 52000 for all the games combined? That's how i read the walesonline article. That's how I read it. 3 group games plus conditional tickets. Corky any ideas when the FAW will be releasing the points scheme as they suggested? |
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Post by sleepy on Jan 21, 2016 15:19:48 GMT
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 21, 2016 15:25:37 GMT
Isn't the 52000 for all the games combined? That's how i read the walesonline article. That's how I read it. 3 group games plus conditional tickets. Corky any ideas when the FAW will be releasing the points scheme as they suggested? They probably won't, what would be the point? |
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Post by pengedragon on Jan 21, 2016 15:37:33 GMT
Yeah if 7000 people applied for fmt tickets that's 49000 applications Not like walesonline to cause unnecessary panic is it  |
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Post by yanto on Jan 21, 2016 15:40:55 GMT
17,000 available tickets for gold members in the group stages and between the 14,000 gold members there have been 52,000 applications for the three group matches alone.if 14000 gold members applied for two for each game (28,000) the maximum amount of applications would have been 28,000 x 3 = 84,000 applications and we had 52,000 which is a huge amount of what was possible Ta for the maths was just getting my head around it. Its a complete fookin lottery worse than i thought and the fans who have applied for 2 tickets have fookedmus all. |
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Post by yanto on Jan 21, 2016 17:14:05 GMT
Having said that its not really different to that expected. The reality is probably that if you are in then priority list to the first 1000 you re laughing, if you're between 1001 and 3000 its gonna be squeaky wotsits. The rest can fuck off me thinks.
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 17:21:18 GMT
Having said that its not really different to that expected. The reality is probably that if you are in then priority list to the first 1000 you re laughing, if you're between 1001 and 3000 its gonna be squeaky wotsits. The rest can fuck off me thinks. Surely up to the first 2600 should be fine as the least amount of tickets we have is 5200+ for Toulouse? What we dont know is the criteria to be in this number. Assuming it will be points and/or number of campaigns gold membership held |
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 21, 2016 18:09:14 GMT
low number or high number it does not matter, reasons i say this is the points system say you are oversubscribed by a thousand or ten thousand those with most points will be rewarded, it will be a high number i doubt anyone who goes to alot of home and away games will not have appliqued, therefore even if the number was very low indeed the loyalty points criteria would still be very high . there will be those with good away and home records who will make the cut, others will struggle. There will be no spars for people with only a few home games on their membership even if low applications as we have atleast 6 thousand with great number of points who will snap up the tickets for the three group games , no spares for people on low points no matter if 7 thousand or 70 thousand aplly no more of a chance im afriad.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jan 21, 2016 18:14:19 GMT
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 18:18:47 GMT
Big difference between 52 thou tikcets applied for for three group games OR 52 thou for seven games (last two of which defo have big allocations). Needs to be clarified. If it is the latter then pobl have less reason to worry. Demand for last 16 and QF conditionals was stong/v strong....
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 21, 2016 18:19:27 GMT
dont forget other countries had a free for all we have brilliant numbers, i mean how many peple are bandwagoners is unreal i have been telling people its a tenner and to get points up . england has 14,000 members and is undersubscribed for russia game, because they charge 75 pounds to join there travel club to go away , so england v wales is only 5 th in games oversubscribed.imagine if you didnt have to be a member of the faw to be in ballot, tons of people at work ask me how come i dont have this code to enter how do i get the code ?. i wa slike you had to be a members r anyone can use google learn the rules, i just hate some fans will give mates with no history of going games tickets !.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jan 21, 2016 18:30:44 GMT
is it a lottery or points ?
if all members applied for 1 each (un likely thou) and it goes on points for each game then i be confident in getting a ticket for each game as i be in the 3000-5000 + region, but if all claimed 2 each im f@%ked
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 18:33:40 GMT
is it a lottery or points ? if all members applied for 1 each (un likely thou) and it goes on points for each game then i be confident in getting a ticket for each game as i be in the 3000-5000 + region, but if all claimed 2 each im f@%ked It will be either continuous membership and/or loyalty points. England dos lottery for a small percentage, perhaps we should do the same? Thought you had been to a few aways mate? Sure I seen your flag in Cyprus? Only 1500 have had consecutive membership and 3000 was the most we had in an away game. If you have history of more than one campaign and a couple of away games under your belt then I would expect people to be fine? |
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 18:40:57 GMT
Does anyone know for definite whether the Walesonline statement is true? - that is, there was a total of 52 thou ticket applications covering ALL 7 GAMES (the 3 definite group ones PLUS the 4 potential knockout games).
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 21, 2016 18:48:11 GMT
Does anyone know for definite whether the Walesonline statement is true? - that is, there was a total of 52 thou ticket applications covering ALL 7 GAMES (the 3 definite group ones PLUS the 4 potential knockout games). This is my understanding but it's in Wales online so who knows It is consistent with what NI applied for and a lot less than the Republic but theirs was a free for all (I think) |
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 18:51:09 GMT
But I noticed Corky has put in bold at top of thread that it was 52,000 for just the (3) group games....
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Post by adecolley on Jan 21, 2016 18:51:52 GMT
Walesonline have made no statement at all. They are clearly reporting it as coming from the FAW.
So the figure comes from the FAW
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 18:55:39 GMT
OK. So the line in bold at the start of the thread was a mistake then? No probs....
It is just applicants are in a far better position if the Walesonline FAW quote is true. Which it must be, as you say..... :-) Unless Walesonline have quoted FAW wrongly of course..... (not that that could ever happen hahaha)
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 19:09:16 GMT
Just read whole piece. Very clumsily worded sentence. Can be taken either way - 52 thou for 3 games or for 7. If we are inclined to take it they are trying to write good English then the former will be true. With the add-on 'plus seats ..' bit seeming to mean applications over and above the 52 thou total. But, obviously, it sounds daft! Of course, Cym fans will have applied for said conditional seats too! So where is the number, if it is additional to the 52 thou?
The thing is, there is a very big difference twixt one thing and t'other.
This is the sentence:
"But the Football Association of Wales told Wales Online on Thursday that gold members had applied for a total of 52,160 tickets for those three games, plus conditional seats at any knockout games which Wales qualify for."
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Post by adecolley on Jan 21, 2016 19:28:05 GMT
So that's 52,160 tickets for seven games then
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Post by sleepy on Jan 21, 2016 19:33:08 GMT
It is clumsy, but why would they only be given a figure for 3 group games, when every other team's figure covers the whole thing.
Surely if they were given 2 figures (one for group only, one for the knockout) they'd report them both.
I'm fairly confident it's 52k for the whole tournament.
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 19:35:59 GMT
I am not convinced. Corky put that it was 52 thou for 3 in bold at the top here. And it it were 52,160 for the first 3 then it'd mean (forgive the maths) roughly 55% of gold members applied for 2 tickets per group game, which doesn't seem far-fetched at all, does it? But it is clumsy writing by WOL. Where is the figure for conditional tickets?
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 19:39:08 GMT
Well, let's hope so, Sleepy, for the good of all who have applied anyway! (unless we have falied to take up our full quota for the potential knockout games - which wiould cause a bit of a mess for everyone, fans and FAW later, as we steam thru to the semis....)
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 19:43:54 GMT
Dunno tho'.... How many junior members are there within the 14,000? Because the majority of them won't have applied, it being schooltime and all. So perhaps some 55% of 14,000 is way to high for total ticket applications for group games.
All will be revealed, I am sure.... :--)
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Post by yanto on Jan 21, 2016 19:45:41 GMT
Its out of our hands guys, the way in which tickets will be allocated is still bit of a mystery as the 2 per member rule makes it even harder to predict. I for one am going to relax and what we fookin be will fookin be. The price of success is staring us in the face. Oh for the miserable years.......  ? |
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Post by sleepy on Jan 21, 2016 19:55:09 GMT
Dunno tho'.... How many junior members are there within the 14,000? Because the majority of them won't have applied, it being schooltime and all. So perhaps some 55% of 14,000 is way to high for total ticket applications for group games. All will be revealed, I am sure.... :--) It's nearer 66%, meaning every member applied for 4 tickets for the 3 group games. No way that's right. |
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Post by cholista on Jan 21, 2016 20:03:02 GMT
Hahaha. Diolch, sleepy. Awful maths. Yes, 62/3 ish % of the 84,000 figure.
I agree. Seems too high. Especially when u factor junior members in.
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Post by eppingblue on Jan 21, 2016 20:30:49 GMT
Hahaha. Diolch, sleepy. Awful maths. Yes, 62/3 ish % of the 84,000 figure. I agree. Seems too high. Especially when u factor junior members in.
But if you assume it includes tickets for the knockout stages and assume that half the applications included all the knock out games either individually or FMT then that figures drops to 31,000 tickets 36%. So that would mean the average applicant has applied for just over 2 tickets when they could theoretically applied for 6. Seems low to me, so on that basis I think the 52k figure is for the 3 group games. Hope I'm wrong. I've dropped a massive bollock going for cat 4, would have been totally relaxed now if I'd gone cat 3.
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