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Post by terminallyrhyl on Feb 9, 2016 17:09:13 GMT
I wouldn't agree it was "blatant", the process has been so vague - most people were applying blind because nobody knew the numbers available - of tickets/applicants/FMT tickets/individuals and that dreaded second ticket thrown into the mix as well.
I went for the FMT to the final (only because I had a backup option) thinking that UEFA would want to bank my money until the end of August and cut down on any onwards administration. By the look of it they are marginally less corrupt than I initially thought!
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Post by erasedcitizen on Feb 9, 2016 17:19:13 GMT
I am miffed that people who I know to have less membership points than myself have come away with the same FYT tickets I applied for. You say that this has been worked as a fair system, but I tend to disagree there. I'm also annoyed that the 2012 membership & season ticket hasn't been taken into consideration, but even without that I should have enough points to have secured what I wanted. I couldn't afford to go for categories 1 and 2, but I did tick the box allowing category 2 tickets if it came to that. You may disagree, but I can't help but feel hard done by here, even though I did take the gamble. Thankfully, as mentioned, I had a backup. If that's the case and you applied for exactly the same as your mates who have been successful, then obviously something is amiss (assuming you know for sure that they had less points than you).
How did you consider going for Category 2 and also tick the box allowing for a Category 2 upgrade? FYT tickets were only available in Categories 1 and 3.
Glad that you're sorted through another source.
In all honesty, I can admit that I've botched it a bit and I'm lucky my Dad applied for 2 tickets for each game. I am a bit gutted that we didn't get more FYT tickets, as it sounds like we only got very few but I ran the risk there. Can't wait to be out there in June, hopefully other loyal fans who made the same mistake as me get themselves sorted. |
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Post by vivagarethbales on Feb 9, 2016 18:35:28 GMT
I've worked out me and my 3 other mates would have had 5 loyalty points, decided obviously to go for category 2 with the option of upgrading as we thought we would have no chance of tickets in the lower categories or even at all to be honest. All applied for the 3 group games and all successful in getting 2 tickets each for Slovakia and Russia with none of us getting any for England. Can't help but feel sorry for the people who've missed out to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 18:47:39 GMT
I wouldn't agree it was "blatant", the process has been so vague - most people were applying blind because nobody knew the numbers available - of tickets/applicants/FMT tickets/individuals and that dreaded second ticket thrown into the mix as well. I went for the FMT to the final ( only because I had a backup option) thinking that UEFA would want to bank my money until the end of August and cut down on any onwards administration. By the look of it they are marginally less corrupt than I initially thought! MJ the MD? |
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Post by bluetone on Feb 9, 2016 18:58:27 GMT
I've worked out me and my 3 other mates would have had 5 loyalty points, decided obviously to go for category 2 with the option of upgrading as we thought we would have no chance of tickets in the lower categories or even at all to be honest. All applied for the 3 group games and all successful in getting 2 tickets each for Slovakia and Russia with none of us getting any for England. Can't help but feel sorry for the people who've missed out to be honest. Same here 5 of us went for 2 x Cat 1 tickets and one went for 2 x Cat 2 tickets for all the group games and some later games and we got everything except the England ones. Odd considering we had virtually the same allocation for each game!! |
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Post by Gary Williams on Feb 9, 2016 19:15:53 GMT
I've worked out me and my 3 other mates would have had 5 loyalty points, decided obviously to go for category 2 with the option of upgrading as we thought we would have no chance of tickets in the lower categories or even at all to be honest. All applied for the 3 group games and all successful in getting 2 tickets each for Slovakia and Russia with none of us getting any for England. Can't help but feel sorry for the people who've missed out to be honest. Same here 5 of us went for 2 x Cat 1 tickets and one went for 2 x Cat 2 tickets for all the group games and some later games and we got everything except the England ones. Odd considering we had virtually the same allocation for each game!! [br Easy to explain everyone applied England only one you can do cheaply in a day so probably someone with just above you in loyalty applied for top price |
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Post by bluetone on Feb 9, 2016 19:18:29 GMT
Same here 5 of us went for 2 x Cat 1 tickets and one went for 2 x Cat 2 tickets for all the group games and some later games and we got everything except the England ones. Odd considering we had virtually the same allocation for each game!! [br Easy to explain everyone applied England only one you can do cheaply in a day so probably someone with just above you in loyalty applied for top price I appreciate that but it wasn't just me it was all 6 of us! |
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 9, 2016 20:07:59 GMT
I've worked out me and my 3 other mates would have had 5 loyalty points, decided obviously to go for category 2 with the option of upgrading as we thought we would have no chance of tickets in the lower categories or even at all to be honest. All applied for the 3 group games and all successful in getting 2 tickets each for Slovakia and Russia with none of us getting any for England. Can't help but feel sorry for the people who've missed out to be honest. Same here 5 of us went for 2 x Cat 1 tickets and one went for 2 x Cat 2 tickets for all the group games and some later games and we got everything except the England ones. Odd considering we had virtually the same allocation for each game!! Wasn't the allocation for the England game the smallest? Also, it was probably the more attractive fixture for some being closer and who we were playing? |
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Post by lafiest on Feb 9, 2016 20:08:56 GMT
[br Easy to explain everyone applied England only one you can do cheaply in a day so probably someone with just above you in loyalty applied for top price I appreciate that but it wasn't just me it was all 6 of us! Seems like loads of us have missed out on the England game. I can see it coming... 30000 english and about 5000 of us. |
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Post by terminallyrhyl on Feb 10, 2016 8:46:34 GMT
I wouldn't agree it was "blatant", the process has been so vague - most people were applying blind because nobody knew the numbers available - of tickets/applicants/FMT tickets/individuals and that dreaded second ticket thrown into the mix as well. I went for the FMT to the final ( only because I had a backup option) thinking that UEFA would want to bank my money until the end of August and cut down on any onwards administration. By the look of it they are marginally less corrupt than I initially thought! MJ the MD?  I think he's gone into hiding with any spares he has....
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Post by carnegie68 on Feb 14, 2016 18:33:21 GMT
Don't know what system was used would love to know , as I like others been a gold member when we had to pay for them had tournament tickets for at least last 4 tournaments done 7 of 11 games away and was unsuccessful . Credit card got changed during the process called welsh fa to tell them was told it would be ok gutted will love to see all the hangers on out there with tickets
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 14, 2016 19:36:04 GMT
Don't know what system was used would love to know , as I like others been a gold member when we had to pay for them had tournament tickets for at least last 4 tournaments done 7 of 11 games away and was unsuccessful . Credit card got changed during the process called welsh fa to tell them was told it would be ok gutted will love to see all the hangers on out there with tickets Gutted for you as sounds like you had more than enough points Could be the change of credit card was the issue with UEFA despite the FAW trying to help? |
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Post by scoop76 on Feb 14, 2016 21:14:05 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the points threshold was to guarantee a ticket in each of the categories. Does this sound about right?
Follow My Team (category 3) - 30 points or higher
Category 4 individual - 28 points or higher
Category 3 individual - 18 points or higher for Slovakia game; 20 points or higher for England & Russia games.
Category 2 individual - 12 points or higher.
Category 1 individual - 6 points or higher.
Anyone get tickets on lower points totals that this? Anyone rejected on higher points totals than I've suggested?
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Post by eppingblue on Feb 14, 2016 21:28:49 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the points threshold was to guarantee a ticket in each of the categories. Does this sound about right? Follow My Team (category 3) - 30 points or higher Category 4 individual - 28 points or higher Category 3 individual - 18 points or higher for Slovakia game; 20 points or higher for England & Russia games. Category 2 individual - 12 points or higher. Category 1 individual - 6 points or higher. Anyone get tickets on lower points totals that this? Anyone rejected on higher points totals than I've suggested?
I think your too high there mate.
After the removal of the single home games I had just 20 points. I got cat 4 tickets for all 3 group games and through to the final.
My son had just 11 points, a half tournament ticket, two aways and one membership. We applied for cat 3 up to and including the round of 16 and cat 4 thereafter. He got everything he applied for apart from being bumped up to cat 2 for the Russia game.
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Post by manulike on Feb 14, 2016 21:37:49 GMT
Scoop,
As the home games didn't count, I only had 8 points.
Applied for 1 ticket for each game:
Category 2 for each group game + R16
Category 3 for QF, SF and Final.
Did not get any bumped tickets (although I did tick box).
Luckily, I got all tickets except England game.
I imagine I was really lucky with getting ticket to Russia game and R16.
Most likely, category 2 for those was under-subscribed?
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 14, 2016 21:53:34 GMT
My mate got cat 1 or cat 2 tickets for Slovakia and Russia with only Gold membership (because single games didn't count). Been going for years but always got spares or on the gate.
He's chuffed to bits!
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Post by helipad138 on Feb 15, 2016 13:58:07 GMT
My parents got cat 3 for Slovakia and England with 18 points but bumped to Cat 2 for russia.
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Post by nick75 on Feb 15, 2016 14:56:31 GMT
I have 22 points. I ordered cat2 for Slovakia and England, then cat3 for Russia. I also ordered cat4 for all knockout rounds. I only got Slovakia and final at the category I ordered, got bumped up for Russia and quarter-final, but got absolutely nothing for England, second round and semis.
It's as if UEFA tried to make it as awkward as possible giving me every second game!
I appreciate I'm luckier than some, yet it does feel like a kick in the teeth to buy every membership and tournament ticket since they began, plus some aways, only to find I'm still not considered loyal enough to get more than half the games on offer, even though I went for higher categories on some "to ensure I got them"!
I realise this could be taken as just another sob story - and nowhere near as frustrating as some other experiences I've read on here - but it is indicative of how unscientific the loyalty scheme was. If FAW were to do this again, couldn't they have done a call-out for anyone on, say, 25pts plus, then to those on 15-24pts, and finally to other members? They have two deadlines for friendly matches so it's clearly doable.
And please, no second tickets for non-members! No offence to them, as I know there'll be some genuine fans among them, but why should the fact they happen to know someone who's bothered going to all matches put them higher up the pecking order than someone who's not missed a home game for 15 years?
Time for another lie-down in a darkened room with a cold flannel on my forehead. I promise I'll be in a better mood by June!...
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Post by eppingblue on Feb 15, 2016 15:12:27 GMT
I have 22 points. I ordered cat2 for Slovakia and England, then cat3 for Russia. I also ordered cat4 for all knockout rounds. I only got Slovakia and final at the category I ordered, got bumped up for Russia and quarter-final, but got absolutely nothing for England, second round and semis. It's as if UEFA tried to make it as awkward as possible giving me every second game! I appreciate I'm luckier than some, yet it does feel like a kick in the teeth to buy every membership and tournament ticket since they began, plus some aways, only to find I'm still not considered loyal enough to get more than half the games on offer, even though I went for higher categories on some "to ensure I got them"! I realise this could be taken as just another sob story - and nowhere near as frustrating as some other experiences I've read on here - but it is indicative of how unscientific the loyalty scheme was. If FAW were to do this again, couldn't they have done a call-out for anyone on, say, 25pts plus, then to those on 15-24pts, and finally to other members? They have two deadlines for friendly matches so it's clearly doable. And please, no second tickets for non-members! No offence to them, as I know there'll be some genuine fans among them, but why should the fact they happen to know someone who's bothered going to all matches put them higher up the pecking order than someone who's not missed a home game for 15 years? Time for another lie-down in a darkened room with a cold flannel on my forehead. I promise I'll be in a better mood by June!... Have you checked your FAW account and confirmed all the points are showing that you think should be there. It would be too late to flag it up now but at least may help if can find out where it so badly went wrong. |
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Post by winnie on Feb 15, 2016 15:18:58 GMT
Is there anyway you can check exactly how much points you had? Or is it just by adding them up by yourself?
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Post by sleepy on Feb 15, 2016 15:26:07 GMT
I have 22 points. I ordered cat2 for Slovakia and England, then cat3 for Russia. I also ordered cat4 for all knockout rounds. I only got Slovakia and final at the category I ordered, got bumped up for Russia and quarter-final, but got absolutely nothing for England, second round and semis. It's as if UEFA tried to make it as awkward as possible giving me every second game! I appreciate I'm luckier than some, yet it does feel like a kick in the teeth to buy every membership and tournament ticket since they began, plus some aways, only to find I'm still not considered loyal enough to get more than half the games on offer, even though I went for higher categories on some "to ensure I got them"! I realise this could be taken as just another sob story - and nowhere near as frustrating as some other experiences I've read on here - but it is indicative of how unscientific the loyalty scheme was. If FAW were to do this again, couldn't they have done a call-out for anyone on, say, 25pts plus, then to those on 15-24pts, and finally to other members? They have two deadlines for friendly matches so it's clearly doable. And please, no second tickets for non-members! No offence to them, as I know there'll be some genuine fans among them, but why should the fact they happen to know someone who's bothered going to all matches put them higher up the pecking order than someone who's not missed a home game for 15 years? Time for another lie-down in a darkened room with a cold flannel on my forehead. I promise I'll be in a better mood by June!... Have you checked your FAW account and confirmed all the points are showing that you think should be there. It would be too late to flag it up now but at least may help if can find out where it so badly went wrong. 7 of us all had 22 points, all went for cat 2 or 3 for all group games, and cat 4 all knockout. All of us got what we ordered. I assume you checked the 'other categories' box so can only assume not all your points were added. Would also agree that you contact FAW. |
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Post by nick75 on Feb 15, 2016 15:41:04 GMT
I have 22 points. I ordered cat2 for Slovakia and England, then cat3 for Russia. I also ordered cat4 for all knockout rounds. I only got Slovakia and final at the category I ordered, got bumped up for Russia and quarter-final, but got absolutely nothing for England, second round and semis. It's as if UEFA tried to make it as awkward as possible giving me every second game! I appreciate I'm luckier than some, yet it does feel like a kick in the teeth to buy every membership and tournament ticket since they began, plus some aways, only to find I'm still not considered loyal enough to get more than half the games on offer, even though I went for higher categories on some "to ensure I got them"! I realise this could be taken as just another sob story - and nowhere near as frustrating as some other experiences I've read on here - but it is indicative of how unscientific the loyalty scheme was. If FAW were to do this again, couldn't they have done a call-out for anyone on, say, 25pts plus, then to those on 15-24pts, and finally to other members? They have two deadlines for friendly matches so it's clearly doable. And please, no second tickets for non-members! No offence to them, as I know there'll be some genuine fans among them, but why should the fact they happen to know someone who's bothered going to all matches put them higher up the pecking order than someone who's not missed a home game for 15 years? Time for another lie-down in a darkened room with a cold flannel on my forehead. I promise I'll be in a better mood by June!... Have you checked your FAW account and confirmed all the points are showing that you think should be there. It would be too late to flag it up now but at least may help if can find out where it so badly went wrong. When I read some of the experiences on here, I have begun to wonder whether my points were calculated correctly. Part of me wants to find out but, as you say eppingblue, it's unlikely to change anything. I get the feeling the loyalty points were used as a very rough guide rather than in any exact way. I've got nothing but good things to say about the FAW in recent years but feel they planned this badly and were clearly overwhelmed by the scale of the task. I console myself, as we stand on the brink of a major championship, by reflecting on just how far we've come since the Bobby Gould era... but then work myself up again as I ponder on how many Euros ticket-holders won't know who the hell Bobby Gould was! Right, time for a therapy session - this week it's a group workshop run by Gavin Maguire. Should be good... |
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Post by srdcymru on Feb 15, 2016 16:23:07 GMT
I worked out i had 20 points (including 5 of the last 11 away) and got what i wanted. Category 3 Follow My Team Group Stages.
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Post by toshfan on Feb 15, 2016 18:08:23 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the points threshold was to guarantee a ticket in each of the categories. Does this sound about right? Follow My Team (category 3) - 30 points or higher Category 4 individual - 28 points or higher Category 3 individual - 18 points or higher for Slovakia game; 20 points or higher for England & Russia games. Category 2 individual - 12 points or higher. Category 1 individual - 6 points or higher. Anyone get tickets on lower points totals that this? Anyone rejected on higher points totals than I've suggested? I got a category 4 ticket for the Slovakia games with 22 points. |
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Post by zombienation on Feb 15, 2016 20:24:58 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the points threshold was to guarantee a ticket in each of the categories. Does this sound about right? Follow My Team (category 3) - 30 points or higher Category 4 individual - 28 points or higher Category 3 individual - 18 points or higher for Slovakia game; 20 points or higher for England & Russia games. Category 2 individual - 12 points or higher. Category 1 individual - 6 points or higher. Anyone get tickets on lower points totals that this? Anyone rejected on higher points totals than I've suggested? My mate and I had 9 points and we both got tickets for Slovakia and Russia at Category 2 and England at Category 3. I've not yet heard of anyone with less than 9 points getting England tickets; must have been right on the borderline. |
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Post by steve197502 on Feb 15, 2016 20:44:06 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the points threshold was to guarantee a ticket in each of the categories. Does this sound about right? Follow My Team (category 3) - 30 points or higher Category 4 individual - 28 points or higher Category 3 individual - 18 points or higher for Slovakia game; 20 points or higher for England & Russia games. Category 2 individual - 12 points or higher. Category 1 individual - 6 points or higher. Anyone get tickets on lower points totals that this? Anyone rejected on higher points totals than I've suggested? I had 9 points and got Cat 3 for both England and Slovakia (what I applied for) and got bumped to Cat 2 for Russia. |
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Post by scoop76 on Feb 16, 2016 9:38:41 GMT
I'm trying to work out what the points threshold was to guarantee a ticket in each of the categories. Does this sound about right? Follow My Team (category 3) - 30 points or higher Category 4 individual - 28 points or higher Category 3 individual - 18 points or higher for Slovakia game; 20 points or higher for England & Russia games. Category 2 individual - 12 points or higher. Category 1 individual - 6 points or higher. Anyone get tickets on lower points totals that this? Anyone rejected on higher points totals than I've suggested? I had 9 points and got Cat 3 for both England and Slovakia (what I applied for) and got bumped to Cat 2 for Russia. I'll have to revise those totals down then... |
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Post by scoop76 on Feb 16, 2016 9:54:21 GMT
Nick75's partially successful application seems like an anomaly - it's definitely worth checking what the FAW have on record.
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Post by scoop76 on Feb 16, 2016 10:06:39 GMT
Right - discounting Nick's totals for now -this is the revised minimum points needed. Just one caveat - if two people were tied on points, then number of away matches was taken into account, so it is possible some people missed out on these totals.
Category 4: All group matches - 20 points
Category 3: Follow My Team - 20 points
Category 3: Slovakia 11 points, England 9 points, Russia 20 points
Category 2: Slovakia 8 points, England 9 points, Russia 8 points.
Category 1: Slovakia 6 points, England 9 points, Russia 6 points.
Two observations:
- does the smaller capacity in Toulouse mean there were fewer category 3 tickets available for the Russsia game? A lot of people seem to have been bumped up.
- category 4 vastly over subscribed for England match - but not so category 3?!
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Post by manulike on Feb 16, 2016 10:10:16 GMT
I read here, but also know of at least two people that got Category 2 Slovakia and Russia tickets with only a Gold membership and home games - so just 3 points...
No bumps up or down, just straightforward asked and got them...
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I think he's gone into hiding with any spares he has....
