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Post by barry on Apr 10, 2019 12:10:53 GMT
Highlights on Youtube now.
Here's his goal.
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Post by eppingblue on Apr 10, 2019 12:24:09 GMT
The goal was great but his play for the second sending off was my favourite bit. There's not many full backs in the world getting the better of that by fair means.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 10, 2019 13:10:39 GMT
Love hearing these insights. I’m interested to hear what you consider the ceiling to be for a ‘top player’. What level of clubs do you expect James, Roberts and Rodon to end up at? I’d been keeping up with James’s highlights this season, and was excited to see what he could do after his performance vs Man City, but seeing him live against Slovakia really blew me away. Pekarík is playing in the Spanish top flight, and was Slovakia’s most experienced defender on the day, and James had him on toast. Pekarík could not get near to him and had no answer for the whole 90 minutes. That’s what impressed me the most, the way he dominated that flank. It also seems as though Championship defenders can’t come up with any answers either, which explains why he is causing multiple bookings/red cards. ‘We can’t deal with him, so kick him until he stops’. This alone tells me he is currently operating at a Premier League level, just the question I’m wondering about is how good of a club would be prepared to take him and play him regularly? <iframe width="18.4" height="14.24" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50427581" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 18.4px; height: 14.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.4" height="14.24" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59062034" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 865px; top: -5px; width: 18.4px; height: 14.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.4" height="14.24" id="MoatPxIOPT0_82341336" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 643px; width: 18.4px; height: 14.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.4" height="14.24" id="MoatPxIOPT0_73004895" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 865px; top: 643px; width: 18.4px; height: 14.24px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> Myself and some of the others who have been regulars at the Swans U23s feel Dan has potential to be world class if he keeps his head in right place. When you look at the players in same positions in Prem league top 6, he is arguably becoming as good as any of them now. Pep Guardiola is apparently very impressed. The commentators for the game v Man City were going mental over him for the entire game pretty much. His performance levels have rarely dropped in last few months, no matter of opposition. Connor imo will at very least be good enough for top half of Prem league, arguably would walk into Man Utd team now. Also for those who don't know yet, check out Welsh youngster at Utd called Dylan Levitt, already making waves in U23s. Joe Rodon has broke through this season and has for most part been a revelation. He has made a few mistakes, but that was only to be expected, but has great attitude and imo will also get to at least play for top half Prem team. He is 6 foot 4 or 5, he is building strength pretty quickly and learning the game very well. I feel really confident about the June double header, which imo is the toughest part of this campaign and feel that Giggs, Osian and staff have gone about things the right way in bringing these players through. the thought of our squad at full strength is frightening. The thought of James and Brooks running at defences, let alone Bale etc is scary lol. I’ve heard this, but I was unsure on whether it was pure conjecture, or whether there was any truth to it. Where did you hear this?
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Post by manulike on Apr 10, 2019 13:38:34 GMT
Exciting prospect but will become a marked man soon and will be interesting to see how he develops to cope with that. Also a massive jump from championship to premier league. Think he could well go on to have a stellar career. Think this could well be the order in how good a career they have Ampadu Brooks Wilson James Woodburn Mepham C Roberts Smith Matondo T Roberts That's a decent top 10 to keep our eyes on Like your top ten, but feel its a bit harsh on Tyler being at the tail end ... may I also add: Joe Rodon Robbie Burton Dylan Levitt
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 10, 2019 14:05:03 GMT
Exciting prospect but will become a marked man soon and will be interesting to see how he develops to cope with that. Also a massive jump from championship to premier league. Think he could well go on to have a stellar career. Think this could well be the order in how good a career they have Ampadu Brooks Wilson JamesWoodburn MephamC RobertsSmithMatondoT Roberts That's a decent top 10 to keep our eyes on What also pleases me is that the one’s I’ve highlighted were not in most people’s thoughts for the senior squad at the beginning of the season. Not to mention J Lawrence, Rodon & Vaulks. 2018/19 has been a memorable season for us.
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Post by alarch on Apr 10, 2019 16:55:08 GMT
Ben Woodburn is widely regarded as one of the hottest prospects in world football. With all due respect, Roberts has played against Wolves and Notts County whilst Dan James hasn't even played 90 minutes of pro football. Fringe players like Bodin and Bradshaw deserve a shot in China more than the youngsters do as they've put in the hard yards in professional football and have been patient Ampadu, Brooks, Woodburn, Mepham have all earned call-ups. I think the China is a nice way to have a look at the likes of Bradshaw and Bodin. In my view James, after the starting XI, is behind; Lawrence, Brooks, Woodburn, Watkins, Hedges, Bodin, Wilson. Even Gwion Edwards could stake a claim to being higher on the list I tend to agree with this assessment, but things can change quickly. I suspect there will be a fair few players dropping out of the China Cup - so who knows what sort of squad we will end up with. Roberts has the stronger claim of the two Swansea players, but he will need to prove himself against better opposition to earn the right to a squad place without relying on drop-outs. Amazing how things can change quickly (at least I was right about that bit). These two posts were from just over a year ago - it's amazing how the footballing landscape has transformed in such a small space of time. Who would have thought a year ago that Roberts would be a sure-fire starter and James a very strong contender to start even with a full-strength squad.
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Post by eppingblue on Apr 10, 2019 17:03:04 GMT
I tend to agree with this assessment, but things can change quickly. I suspect there will be a fair few players dropping out of the China Cup - so who knows what sort of squad we will end up with. Roberts has the stronger claim of the two Swansea players, but he will need to prove himself against better opposition to earn the right to a squad place without relying on drop-outs. Amazing how things can change quickly (at least I was right about that bit). These two posts were from just over a year ago - it's amazing how the footballing landscape has transformed in such a small space of time. Who would have thought a year ago that Roberts would be a sure-fire starter and James a very strong contender to start even with a full-strength squad. Dan James is a sure starter for me.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Apr 11, 2019 7:50:28 GMT
I tend to agree with this assessment, but things can change quickly. I suspect there will be a fair few players dropping out of the China Cup - so who knows what sort of squad we will end up with. Roberts has the stronger claim of the two Swansea players, but he will need to prove himself against better opposition to earn the right to a squad place without relying on drop-outs. Amazing how things can change quickly (at least I was right about that bit). These two posts were from just over a year ago - it's amazing how the footballing landscape has transformed in such a small space of time. Who would have thought a year ago that Roberts would be a sure-fire starter and James a very strong contender to start even with a full-strength squad. true. woodburn was the new prodigy now we have james . its a good problem for giggs to have
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Post by pendragon on Apr 11, 2019 10:10:27 GMT
Highlights on Youtube now. Here's his goal. Easy Fabulous goal. The defenders can't get near him and the quality of his assists are superb. We are very, very lucky to have him!
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Post by texan on Apr 12, 2019 9:46:11 GMT
More praise for Dan: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47898129Bale is a good comparison really, he's currently influencing matches in the way Bale was for Spurs circa 2013. You can visibly see the opposition panic when he gets the ball, he naturally pulls their attention onto him and is one of those rare players the opposition can only really stop illegally when he's in this sort of form. You can temper the hype by asking if he can do it at a higher level, but he goes out and does it against City, he then goes and steps up again (this time alongside Bale) against a tough Slovakian side. The only real question mark that can be levelled at him is consistency...can he do it consistently match after match over the next few seasons. Only time will tell but, if he can, Jesus we have a player on our hands here! If Swansea can keep the nucleus of this side together they'll be one of the favourites to go up next year, however I think James is currently growing faster than the club, which unfortunately means they probably won't be able to keep hold of him if a sensible bid comes in. Silver lining there of course will probably be that they can balance their books by selling only him!
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Post by iot on Apr 12, 2019 10:27:28 GMT
It's a strange one for me. I remember watching him a couple of times for the welsh u21s and he didn't impress all that much. I remember him scoring a couple of goals in Toulon running in behind, but I never remember him having such explosiveness and ability to sprint past players. I only saw that once he started breaking into the swans side, has he always been like that?
While I'm excited by his current form, I think much of the hype has been a little premature. He's already 21, his main asset by far is his pace which tends to gradually degrade post-23. If he were 18/19 I'd see him as having the potential to reach Bale levels, but given that he's already 21 I can't see him reaching anywhere near that. But if he gets to a mid-table prem side then he'll be an extremely important asset for us.
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Post by underwood on Apr 12, 2019 10:52:32 GMT
The only way James will be at Swansea next season will be if he signs for one of the Big Six & they loan him back. I don’t think he’s destined for that, but he’s capable of Leicester, Watford, Everton level though. I am reticent to get too excited about him at this stage, he has the potential, but he now needs to be more of a David Brooks than a Ben Woodburn.
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Post by eppingblue on Apr 12, 2019 10:53:52 GMT
More praise for Dan: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47898129Bale is a good comparison really, he's currently influencing matches in the way Bale was for Spurs circa 2013. You can visibly see the opposition panic when he gets the ball, he naturally pulls their attention onto him and is one of those rare players the opposition can only really stop illegally when he's in this sort of form. You can temper the hype by asking if he can do it at a higher level, but he goes out and does it against City, he then goes and steps up again (this time alongside Bale) against a tough Slovakian side. The only real question mark that can be levelled at him is consistency...can he do it consistently match after match over the next few seasons. Only time will tell but, if he can, Jesus we have a player on our hands here! If Swansea can keep the nucleus of this side together they'll be one of the favourites to go up next year, however I think James is currently growing faster than the club, which unfortunately means they probably won't be able to keep hold of him if a sensible bid comes in. Silver lining there of course will probably be that they can balance their books by selling only him! At 21 Bale was still being kept out of his of his left back place at Spurs by Assou Ekotto. Of all the youngsters that have come through he excites me the most. The room he'll open up for others and the free kicks he'll draw for Bale and Wilson could be invaluable. Success in the next 10 years though, depends hugely on Ampadu, Mepham and Rodon etc with the guiding of them falling more and more on Ben Davies. If we can sort out the defence, get them conceding 5 goals a tournament as we did in the last euro qualifiers then we'll qualify for Euro finals comfortably and have a good shot at the world cup. <iframe width="18.4" height="7.78000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT1_80136397" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -6px; width: 18.4px; height: 7.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.4" height="7.78000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT1_67145258" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 865px; top: -6px; width: 18.4px; height: 7.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.4" height="7.78000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT1_13679632" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 326px; width: 18.4px; height: 7.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="18.4" height="7.78000000000003" id="MoatPxIOPT1_98316721" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 865px; top: 326px; width: 18.4px; height: 7.78px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe>
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Post by pendragon on Apr 13, 2019 16:19:28 GMT
Anyone see Swansea in action against QPR today? I didn't but the Swans apparently got ripped apart by them. James on the end of some nasty challenges and the defence wenr missing according to reports (though Connor and James got decent enough reviews). This will be a growing feature as his stock continues to rise unfortunately.
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Post by barry on Apr 14, 2019 16:17:16 GMT
Anyone see Swansea in action against QPR today? I didn't but the Swans apparently got ripped apart by them. James on the end of some nasty challenges and the defence wenr missing according to reports (though Connor and James got decent enough reviews). This will be a growing feature as his stock continues to rise unfortunately. Was kicked and doubled up out of the game. Rangel did two bookable fouls on him early and wasn't booked at all. Gets fouled a lot - Zaha style. Worry for him sometimes and refs need to protect players like him more.
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Post by welshiron on Apr 14, 2019 16:27:35 GMT
They get a lot of protection already.
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Post by alarch on Apr 14, 2019 19:06:01 GMT
They get a lot of protection already. No they don't - especially below Premier League level. Apparently Jonny Williams had a good game for Charlton yesterday, according to their fans, but was the subject of several dangerous challenges. It's as if lower level refs haven't realised we're not still in the seventies.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Apr 14, 2019 19:10:15 GMT
They get a lot of protection already. James gets fouled at least 5 times a game, most of them yellow cards, as barry said rangel should have been sent off yesterday.
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 14, 2019 21:08:30 GMT
...that would have been three red cards in a week!
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Post by nwcherries on Apr 16, 2019 12:26:27 GMT
Was just thinking about my dream Bournemouth team for next season...
------------Boruc------------ Roberts---Mepham---Cook---Ake ------Lerma------Ampadu------ James-------Brooks-------Fraser ------------Wilson------------
Go on Eddie, make it happen!
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Post by richierich333 on Apr 16, 2019 12:33:32 GMT
The Bournemouth Dragons
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Post by welshiron on Apr 16, 2019 13:01:02 GMT
They get a lot of protection already. No they don't - especially below Premier League level. Apparently Jonny Williams had a good game for Charlton yesterday, according to their fans, but was the subject of several dangerous challenges. It's as if lower level refs haven't realised we're not still in the seventies. You have to judge each foul on its merit. Cant penalise differently even if every foul is on the same player.
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Post by matty on Apr 16, 2019 15:15:39 GMT
No they don't - especially below Premier League level. Apparently Jonny Williams had a good game for Charlton yesterday, according to their fans, but was the subject of several dangerous challenges. It's as if lower level refs haven't realised we're not still in the seventies. You have to judge each foul on its merit. Cant penalise differently even if every foul is on the same player. I think there was a red card for the one challenge on Williams on Saturday. So you could argue he was being protected, but obviously was still hacked down initially and from the brief highlights it looked quite nasty.
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Post by pendragon on Apr 16, 2019 20:15:51 GMT
Was just thinking about my dream Bournemouth team for next season... ------------Boruc------------ Roberts---Mepham---Cook---Ake ------Lerma------Ampadu------ James-------Brooks-------Fraser ------------Wilson------------ Go on Eddie, make it happen! Would look like the new Wales PL production line!
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Post by manulike on Apr 19, 2019 15:12:20 GMT
Daniel playing well and looking like a constant threat. Sweet burst of pace into the box and a cross to assist the 2nd goal.
his third assist this month and his ninth of the season!
had four shots on target, but still no end product ;-( if he sorts out his final shot in front of goal, he will be a massive prospect.
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Post by alarch on Apr 20, 2019 10:02:26 GMT
One good development in yesterday's game is that James' assist came with a left-footed cross from a run on the outside. He has a tendency to cut inside a lot - often to great effect - but has become a little predictable, with teams double or triple marking him, with a lot of attention given to the possibility of him cutting inside. You could see that with his cross that led to the goal - with several players bunched on the inside.
James is no longer an unknown quantity, so he's going to have to develop more strings to his bow - and yesterday showed that James understands this. It's also apparent that Swansea are learning too - because there's been a tendency in recent times to go down James' flank excessively - understandably, but it's also meant that Roberts' attacking potential hasn't been exploited as much as it might. This is very relevant for Wales too - we need to show flexibility and be prepared to switch play to either side to exploit the gaps that will inevitably be created by teams double or treble marking the likes of James and Bale.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 20, 2019 14:26:25 GMT
One good development in yesterday's game is that James' assist came with a left-footed cross from a run on the outside. He has a tendency to cut inside a lot - often to great effect - but has become a little predictable, with teams double or triple marking him, with a lot of attention given to the possibility of him cutting inside. You could see that with his cross that led to the goal - with several players bunched on the inside. James is no longer an unknown quantity, so he's going to have to develop more strings to his bow - and yesterday showed that James understands this. It's also apparent that Swansea are learning too - because there's been a tendency in recent times to go down James' flank excessively - understandably, but it's also meant that Roberts' attacking potential hasn't been exploited as much as it might. This is very relevant for Wales too - we need to show flexibility and be prepared to switch play to either side to exploit the gaps that will inevitably be created by teams double or treble marking the likes of James and Bale.The positive for me is that teams can't double/triple up on Bale, James, Brooks and Ramsey. Having so many options makes it difficult to defend against us now.
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Post by manulike on Apr 21, 2019 19:00:05 GMT
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Post by pendragon on Apr 22, 2019 13:51:13 GMT
Out of all the clubs who may vie for him this summer, I really hope that he makes it to Bournemouth. I think the style of play is well-suited to him and he's likely to get vital game time. Eddie Howe also has something of a reputation for nurturing talent, such as Brooks. On another note, worthy praise from the Rotherham boss, Paul Warne, for James' display last weekend. Not often a player hears that I'm sure.
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Post by iot on Apr 22, 2019 13:54:50 GMT
Not sure if bournemouth would be a good move, they have good options in those positions and there may not be room for james and brooks in the first eleven. Arguably, Fraser has been their best player this season so he's a cert to start. They currently start with him on one wing and brooks on the other. They've also good decent options in Ibe, Stanislas and King in wide/forward positions with Wilson and solanke as out and out strikers.
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