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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 12:11:34 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 7, 2019 13:08:45 GMT
I never take speculation that seriously, but I've always thought he looks like a typical United style winger of years gone by. I haven't watched him play enough to judge whether he could currently play for a top top club, but it certainly seems there is a fair amount of interest from some good clubs. |
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Post by manulike on May 7, 2019 19:55:05 GMT
I never take speculation that seriously, but I've always thought he looks like a typical United style winger of years gone by. I haven't watched him play enough to judge whether he could currently play for a top top club, but it certainly seems there is a fair amount of interest from some good clubs. I agree. Someone give Ole Gunnar his DVD ... but £10m is not going to cut it... |
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Post by fiveattheback on May 7, 2019 22:26:39 GMT
Dan James is a bluebird through and through   |
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Post by pendragon on May 8, 2019 15:48:23 GMT
Warming to the idea of him joining his mate, Tyler, at Leeds if they make it to the Premier League. I think it's likely he'd get game time there as well as Bielsa seems very keen on him. If rumours are to be believed, Manchester City are planning to loan him out to Girona. What are people's views then? Leeds might be PL strugglers if they make it to the PL next season, or they could thrive, like Wolves have. Girona are currently 17th in La Liga, but he'd get the experience of playing in Spain if they also stay up, not to mention, coming into contact with the likes of Messi from time to time. Let's remember his age here. This looks like baseless speculation to me. In 7 months he will be 22. If he were to move to man city and they loan him out to girona for a year, by the time he comes back he will be approaching 23. Speedsters like him peak when they're 23-25. It's not like he's an 18yo who they see as someone who can develop enough to challenge sterling and bernardo silva in a few years time. Sorry, but I don't buy it. I think people are getting way over board in how they rate him. It's been a brilliant season, but it's been just that - a season. One where he's scored 4 and assisted 7 in 33 championship games. He's had a few quieter games recently where teams are figuring him out a little bit, so he's still got so much to prove. I'm not disagreeing with you. But I do think he has a chance (and indeed could benefit from) with a move to a mid - lower PL team. |
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Post by alarch on May 8, 2019 15:57:50 GMT
Let's remember his age here. This looks like baseless speculation to me. In 7 months he will be 22. If he were to move to man city and they loan him out to girona for a year, by the time he comes back he will be approaching 23. Speedsters like him peak when they're 23-25. It's not like he's an 18yo who they see as someone who can develop enough to challenge sterling and bernardo silva in a few years time. Sorry, but I don't buy it. I think people are getting way over board in how they rate him. It's been a brilliant season, but it's been just that - a season. One where he's scored 4 and assisted 7 in 33 championship games. He's had a few quieter games recently where teams are figuring him out a little bit, so he's still got so much to prove. You're right to urge caution and James isn't the full package by any means. His finishing in particular is more miss than hit. On the other hand his final pass has improved over the course of the half season where he's been consistently involved. But on one count it's hard to exaggerate how good he is. His pace over just about any distance, short or long, is phenomenal. World class phenomenal. That alone isn't enough to make it at the top level of the game, but it's one hell of an asset. I can't remember another Welsh player since Bale in his pomp that makes me laugh out loud at the way he burns off the opposition as if they're standing still. It will be fascinating to see to what extent James can develop his all-round game once he moves to the Premier League - I just hope he doesn't waste a whole season sitting in the reserves of a top 6 club. |
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Post by impeachabull on May 8, 2019 16:01:09 GMT
Let's remember his age here. This looks like baseless speculation to me. In 7 months he will be 22. If he were to move to man city and they loan him out to girona for a year, by the time he comes back he will be approaching 23. Speedsters like him peak when they're 23-25. It's not like he's an 18yo who they see as someone who can develop enough to challenge sterling and bernardo silva in a few years time. Sorry, but I don't buy it. I think people are getting way over board in how they rate him. It's been a brilliant season, but it's been just that - a season. One where he's scored 4 and assisted 7 in 33 championship games. He's had a few quieter games recently where teams are figuring him out a little bit, so he's still got so much to prove. You're right to urge caution and James isn't the full package by any means. His finishing in particular is more miss than hit. On the other hand his final pass has improved over the course of the half season where he's been consistently involved. But on one count it's hard to exaggerate how good he is. His pace over just about any distance, short or long, is phenomenal. World class phenomenal. That alone isn't enough to make it at the top level of the game, but it's one hell of an asset. I can't remember another Welsh player since Bale in his pomp that makes me laugh out loud at the way he burns off the opposition as if they're standing still. It will be fascinating to see to what extent James can develop his all-round game once he moves to the Premier League - I just hope he doesn't waste a whole season sitting in the reserves of a top 6 club. Totally agree. I really hope he signs for a Bournemouth or Leicester. City, in particular, seems a waste of a year. |
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Post by CrackityJones on May 8, 2019 17:07:03 GMT
Newcastle are the latest club apparently interested.
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Post by nwcherries on May 9, 2019 8:02:46 GMT
While I'm sure there is definitely more to his game, James' pace alone could easily see him do well in the Premier League. His style of direct, explosive running is quite unique, especially for such a young player. It'll just be a matter of whether he can translate this into goals/assists at the highest level.
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Post by turkpower on May 10, 2019 8:16:27 GMT
Going to Man United for £15 Million. Recommended by Giggs.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 10, 2019 8:44:52 GMT
Going to Man United for £15 Million. Recommended by Giggs. That's massive. Ole will definitely give him a run in the team and I think he has the knack to make it at the top level. Well done Dan. |
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Post by manulike on May 10, 2019 10:50:35 GMT
Going to Man United for £15 Million. Recommended by Giggs. That's massive. Ole will definitely give him a run in the team and I think he has the knack to make it at the top level. Well done Dan. Personally, I am not happy with a United move for our Daniel. Think that club is toxic and full of prima-donnas, who could turn his head. I would like any deal to include a loan-back to the Swans for a season ;-)
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Post by 1gwaunview on May 10, 2019 10:59:38 GMT
That's massive. Ole will definitely give him a run in the team and I think he has the knack to make it at the top level. Well done Dan. Personally, I am not happy with a United move for our Daniel. Think that club is toxic and full of prima-donnas, who could turn his head. I would like any deal to include a loan-back to the Swans for a season ;-)
Agreed, don't think Utd would be a good move at the moment. |
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Post by texan on May 10, 2019 11:18:07 GMT
Personally, I am not happy with a United move for our Daniel. Think that club is toxic and full of prima-donnas, who could turn his head. I would like any deal to include a loan-back to the Swans for a season ;-)
Currently yes that's true. But I think we'll be seeing major changes at that club this summer, I personally think Pogba will be shipped out to the highest bidder with Sanchez, Mata, Young and a couple others following him out the door. We already know Valencia's definitely leaving. Whilst nothing's ever certain, if there is to be a clear-out it may be a fantastic opportunity for Dan James to arrive there, on day 1 of a new era with the promise of certainly some involvement and the potential to grow within and alongside a new and youthful side. |
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Post by joseywales37 on May 10, 2019 11:41:27 GMT
Personally, I am not happy with a United move for our Daniel. Think that club is toxic and full of prima-donnas, who could turn his head. I would like any deal to include a loan-back to the Swans for a season ;-)
Currently yes that's true. But I think we'll be seeing major changes at that club this summer, I personally think Pogba will be shipped out to the highest bidder with Sanchez, Mata, Young and a couple others following him out the door. We already know Valencia's definitely leaving. Whilst nothing's ever certain, if there is to be a clear-out it may be a fantastic opportunity for Dan James to arrive there, on day 1 of a new era with the promise of certainly some involvement and the potential to grow within and alongside a new and youthful side. Totally agree. Dan James is exactly the type of player that club need to be signing to get away from the direction they been going in. Personally think James is already better than Martial, even though if Martial stays he likely to get first team first with James on bench, but you just know that as soon as James gets on pitch, he will light the place up because he is such a direct positive player. Think Brooks could end up there too tbh, as Ole has spoke glowingly about him, as I think will be the biggest shake of that squad ever. |
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Post by nwcherries on May 10, 2019 14:01:28 GMT
FFS Dan, join your buddies in Dorset. You know it makes sense.
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Post by conwy10 on May 10, 2019 18:53:54 GMT
That's massive. Ole will definitely give him a run in the team and I think he has the knack to make it at the top level. Well done Dan. Personally, I am not happy with a United move for our Daniel. Think that club is toxic and full of prima-donnas, who could turn his head. I would like any deal to include a loan-back to the Swans for a season ;-)
But it’ll do his profile in football the world of good. Dancing with Jesse Lingard and Paul Pogba on Instagram can be a huge plus commercially for him. |
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Post by manulike on May 10, 2019 19:43:18 GMT
Personally, I am not happy with a United move for our Daniel. Think that club is toxic and full of prima-donnas, who could turn his head. I would like any deal to include a loan-back to the Swans for a season ;-)
But it’ll do his profile in football the world of good. Dancing with Jesse Lingard and Paul Pogba on Instagram can be a huge plus commercially for him. Playing chess with our Starman and walking his wee puppy, more like ;-)
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Post by fiveattheback on May 10, 2019 21:04:36 GMT
Would rather he went somewhere like Bournemouth/Watford
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Post by alarch on May 10, 2019 22:16:01 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on May 10, 2019 23:50:45 GMT
ESPN have just reported that Man Utd are interested in ‘21 year old Englishman Dan James’
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Post by gwernybwch on May 11, 2019 17:22:05 GMT
Going to Man United for £15 Million. Recommended by Giggs. You have got to wonder what on earth is going on at Man United's scouting network when a player that has been ripping up the Championship all season is recommended to them by a guy that has seen him play once. (At £15m a good bit of business by United though) |
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Post by robin1864 on May 11, 2019 20:48:19 GMT
I think it's all end of season guff to sell papers.
He'd be a decent impact sub for a mid-upper PL side, but United I think he'd be way out of his depth in terms of development and current ability. The only reason he's featured so much for Swans is that they aren't spending.
He's had some moments of magic this season, granted, but I don't think he's there yet. The player this season worth fighting over is Harry Wilson.
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Post by iot on May 12, 2019 12:24:34 GMT
I think it's all end of season guff to sell papers. He'd be a decent impact sub for a mid-upper PL side, but United I think he'd be way out of his depth in terms of development and current ability. The only reason he's featured so much for Swans is that they aren't spending. He's had some moments of magic this season, granted, but I don't think he's there yet. The player this season worth fighting over is Harry Wilson. Really? Completely disagree with that last statement. Harry Wilson's had a decent season in the championship, but nothing more. He wasn't close to making the Team of the Year. He's scoring something like one in every 2.5 games, but from what I've seen he doesn't offer much when not scoring. I agree that people have gotten ahead of themselves somewhat with Dan James, but he offers more than Wilson. |
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Post by alarch on May 12, 2019 13:12:04 GMT
It's hard to make a direct comparison between Wilson and James because they have different attributes. Wilson is very strong on finishing and set pieces where James is at his weakest. But James has world class pace, whereas Wilson seems pretty fast, but nothing out of the ordinary. Both are good dribblers, and both have an excellent defensive work ethic - the piece I posted a while back highlights James' defensive contribution in the Slovakia game.
I think the chance of James or Wilson getting regular game time at United and Liverpool respectively, next season, is pretty remote. It's hard to judge to what extent James' exceptional pace can compensate for his rawness in other areas, but he would at least there's a possibility that he would make an immediate impact. Good though Wilson is - I really can't see him challenging for a regular starting place at Liverpool, with the best will in the world. A loan at a Premier League club would be a good move, with Bournemouth the obvious destination.
Worth noting that since December Swansea had the best record in the Championship for big chances created:
I would suggest a lot of that is down to James. The fact that they didn't make more of their chances was down to the fact that only McBurnie is a reliable finisher in the team - but James was fashioning good chances aplenty without it being fully reflected in his assist stats. This is the sort of detail that wouldn't be missed by the analytical/recruitment teams at the big clubs.
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Post by barry on May 21, 2019 9:11:30 GMT
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Post by iot on May 21, 2019 9:52:08 GMT
It's a crap deal for all parties. He hasn't shown himself to be good enough at that level, and Man U have a host of youngsters that are breaking through and expected to do big things - mason greenwood, chong, Angel Gomes etc. Why not just trust in them? they're all younger than james and, if given the chance, might be just as good. My fear is that james moves, struggles, other youngsters do well and then he's behind a host of players younger than him, thus disrupting his development. He would do well to go to a mid/lower prem side with a progressive manager that can continue to develop his game. Sounds like a good fit for Brighton actually |
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Post by nwcherries on May 21, 2019 11:46:41 GMT
I think he's making a mistake here. Not necessarily by going to a big club, but it's the big club he's going to. Really terrible squad mentality there from the outside looking in. Would have done better to move to a midtable club like us or Leicester or someone like that.
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Post by cadno on May 21, 2019 11:56:43 GMT
Swansea could probably sign George Williams Gwion Edwards Jonny Williams All for well under 15 mill? And Danny Ward on loan  |
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Post by iot on May 21, 2019 12:20:56 GMT
Swansea could probably sign George Williams Gwion Edwards Jonny Williams All for well under 15 mill? And Danny Ward on loan If those three players cost anywhere near 15mil they will have been robbed! They could get those 3 for 1.5mil, but only Jonny has shown he's good enough for champ level when fit, unless of course the injuries have taken its toll on his ability |
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