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Post by dai on Oct 15, 2021 10:59:52 GMT
Shame they didn't make a fuss when Welsh football games started going Sky years ago. At least S4C sorted it out before the Euro 2016 qualifiers. This. At least they don’t refer to “our national game” which we would have heard not too many years ago. Plaid have now waded in too. Don't remember them caring either when the football games moved to Sky either. Twats. I'm finding the 'uproar' quite amusing tbh. |
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Post by gwernybwch on Oct 15, 2021 11:34:53 GMT
Getting games away from Sky has to be a priority for Mooney. It’s a shame it’s taken the WRU deal to raise the issue, but at least someone in the Senydd is starting to ask the question. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-58896721This crops up every now and again. It gets them a few votes and then they quietly forget about it. The TV rights for welsh international football are part of the UEFA media rights sale thingy. Its not a deal negotiated directly between the FAW and Sky. If the TV rights were negotiated directly it would mean potentially variations in TV money (mostly based on who we drew in the qualifiers) received. Being as Mooney is all about directing limited resources to the grassroots, I'm not sure that 'sorry lads we drew Croatia, no new toilets for you this year' would go down too well. |
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Post by bringbackelmo on Oct 19, 2021 8:33:46 GMT
This. At least they don’t refer to “our national game” which we would have heard not too many years ago. Plaid have now waded in too. Don't remember them caring either when the football games moved to Sky either. Twats. I'm finding the 'uproar' quite amusing tbh. To be fair in 'wading in' they're talking about both rugby and football. It wouldn't surprise me to see the same thing happening to the football before too long, so I wouldn't be laughing too hard if I were you. |
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Post by jimbo82 on Apr 27, 2022 8:56:27 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 27, 2022 9:04:38 GMT
Our national football team behind a pay wall again. Now the only free to watch games in the UK will be England games
Shocking decision. England have turned down this viaplay thing, probably on the grounds that they don't need the money. Or because they have more sway at UEFA. Either way feels like one rule for the big countries and another for us
Free Welsh language service is so important
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 27, 2022 9:13:13 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 27, 2022 9:24:31 GMT
No confirmation that it definitely won't be on S4C yet
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Post by georgetm1 on Apr 27, 2022 9:26:33 GMT
Who the fuck are viaplay? They sound like some 80's educational toy for kids.
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 27, 2022 9:52:05 GMT
Our national football team behind a pay wall again. Now the only free to watch games in the UK will be England games Shocking decision. England have turned down this viaplay thing, probably on the grounds that they don't need the money. Or because they have more sway at UEFA. Either way feels like one rule for the big countries and another for us Free Welsh language service is so important Doubt the English FA are involved, just like the FAW aren’t. End of the day, they pay the bigger bucks for England, Germany, Spain, France etc |
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Post by dai on Apr 27, 2022 9:57:22 GMT
If the matches go behind a paywall again it will be disastrous for the FAW and for the Welsh language.
Who the hell are viaplay? How have they afforded to buy out rights to show matches?
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Post by aberbeeg on Apr 27, 2022 10:40:03 GMT
Viaplay are a Nordic broadcaster
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Post by insertname on Apr 27, 2022 12:37:38 GMT
Viaplay are a Nordic broadcaster They haven’t even launched yet, due to in the second half of the year. It sounds like they will offer some matches free to air but one can only assume that you will still need some sort of viaplay subscription to access the free to air stuff…unless they use YouTube like BT Sports do for the CL final although I imagine the free to air stuff will be used as a carrot to try and entice paid subscriptions like Amazon did with the free football on Prime otherwise what’s in it for them? |
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Post by insertname on Apr 27, 2022 12:43:04 GMT
If the matches go behind a paywall again it will be disastrous for the FAW and for the Welsh language. Who the hell are viaplay? How have they afforded to buy out rights to show matches? Because they are just starting out they obviously need some blue chip products to entice subscriptions And with UEFA having taken the rights completely in house it was up to UEFA who bought them and they went with the highest bidder. Obviously international rights is not a particular winner with Sky anymore (although with losing this, the CL, no Spanish football etc sky’s football offering is looking quite sub-par). So I wouldn’t initially assume that it’s cost them that much money really. They probably did just enough to beat Sky’s bid and I’m sure there were obviously enough investors who believed they could make a decent return. Norway is a fairly well off country as it is due to natural resource money so the fact they have offered the winning bid is not much of a surprise in and of itself. The question to my mind is whether an obscure streaming service can get enough subscribers to justify it. This is the danger of so many companies seeing streaming TV as a viable business model, TV gets packaged up into several £7.99 a month chunks with the consumer having to pay 10’s if not hundreds of pounds to keep up or pick and choose carefully what they watch unless they are resourceful and know where to look |
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Post by robwrecsam on Apr 27, 2022 12:54:00 GMT
Can’t see the upside to this move the potential loss of viewership has got be worth more than whatever financial payday we get?
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 27, 2022 13:06:52 GMT
Skys football offering has gone downhill so quickly but I feel they aren’t bothered with anything other than the premier league these days.
The EFL coverage is very poor, and like the internationals they show the same game on 3 channels and the rest on red button (if you can get it to work, with no option on sky go).
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Post by gwernybwch on Apr 27, 2022 16:38:45 GMT
Can’t see the upside to this move the potential loss of viewership has got be worth more than whatever financial payday we get? People hounded out Ford and welcomed Mooney because he said that more cash was going to be directed towards grassroots football. It doesn't seem that they gave an awful lot of thought that if more money was going to the grassroots something somewhere had to change which might not be to their liking. |
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Post by iot on Apr 27, 2022 20:37:29 GMT
Can’t see the upside to this move the potential loss of viewership has got be worth more than whatever financial payday we get? People hounded out Ford and welcomed Mooney because he said that more cash was going to be directed towards grassroots football. It doesn't seem that they gave an awful lot of thought that if more money was going to the grassroots something somewhere had to change which might not be to their liking. What are you talking about? Everything I've read suggests neither Mooney nor the FAW had any say in this decision. So how does your comment make any sense in that context? |
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Post by gwernybwch on Apr 27, 2022 21:36:27 GMT
People hounded out Ford and welcomed Mooney because he said that more cash was going to be directed towards grassroots football. It doesn't seem that they gave an awful lot of thought that if more money was going to the grassroots something somewhere had to change which might not be to their liking. What are you talking about? Everything I've read suggests neither Mooney nor the FAW had any say in this decision. So how does your comment make any sense in that context? My understanding is like yours, that the football associations now have little influence on who becomes their TV partner.....but it still doesn't stop Mooney suggesting that he can still somehow influence that the games are shown free-to-air.... If that is going to happen, something will have to give. Either you have the games shown on a outlet which is going to charge customers to watch it and more cash that he promised goes to grassroots or he somehow arranges that the games are live free-to-air. If that is to happen, viaplay will expect a pay less for their rights, which results in less for grassroots. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 28, 2022 17:38:20 GMT
We’re lucky to have them aren’t we?
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 28, 2022 18:29:11 GMT
We’re lucky to have them aren’t we? So where were they prior to 2014? Are they not covering Poland away? |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 28, 2022 19:19:01 GMT
We’re lucky to have them aren’t we? So where were they prior to 2014? Are they not covering Poland away? I feel sure they will cover Poland. Before 2014 people were probably watching on free to air ITV / BBC. |
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 28, 2022 19:45:41 GMT
So where were they prior to 2014? Are they not covering Poland away? I feel sure they will cover Poland. Before 2014 people were probably watching on free to air ITV / BBC. Well they say they are back on 5th June. ITV / BBC - England games? |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 28, 2022 20:30:46 GMT
I feel sure they will cover Poland. Before 2014 people were probably watching on free to air ITV / BBC. Well they say they are back on 5th June. ITV / BBC - England games? Before the rights were bought by Sky you could watch Wales / Scotland games on regional ITV / BBC channels. |
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Post by jbt95 on Apr 28, 2022 20:33:56 GMT
Well they say they are back on 5th June. ITV / BBC - England games? Before the rights were bought by Sky you could watch Wales / Scotland games on regional ITV / BBC channels. Wales competitive games have not been on BBC since 2003. |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 28, 2022 20:48:06 GMT
Before the rights were bought by Sky you could watch Wales / Scotland games on regional ITV / BBC channels. Wales competitive games have not been on BBC since 2003. Is that definite? Pretty sure Germany v Wales frankfurt Nov 2007 0-0 was live on BBC. Bonus point for guessing our debutant that day. |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 28, 2022 20:49:41 GMT
Wales competitive games have not been on BBC since 2003. Is that definite? Pretty sure Germany v Wales frankfurt Nov 2007 0-0 was live on BBC. Bonus point for guessing our debutant that day. Forget the debut question. Wiki says he came on as a sub v Ireland 4 days before. First start for Wales perhaps. |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 28, 2022 21:43:16 GMT
Before the rights were bought by Sky you could watch Wales / Scotland games on regional ITV / BBC channels. Wales competitive games have not been on BBC since 2003. I'll take your word for it, I couldn't put a date on it, as I was at all the games I didn't really take much notice of what channel they were on but I do have some old VHS tapes of games where my other half would tape them for me to watch back when I came back from the games. Added to that we have never had Sky so my memory suggests to me they were on BBC Wales. Unfortunately I don't have a VHS player to watch them on now! |
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Post by welshrover on Apr 29, 2022 7:21:40 GMT
jbt95.
Beginning to think you are probably correct. Now recall being taken ill and was unable to go to our 5-1 in Slovakia (what a game too miss!!) and didn't get to watch it on TV, just a highlights programme.
Apologies for doubting you.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 29, 2022 8:11:12 GMT
jbt95. Beginning to think you are probably correct. Now recall being taken ill and was unable to go to our 5-1 in Slovakia (what a game too miss!!) and didn't get to watch it on TV, just a highlights programme. Apologies for doubting you. The 5-1 I'm Slovakia was definitely on sky aa I remember watching it in the pub, and being the only one there. But Germany away a couple of months later was definitely on BBC as I watched it live at home. |
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Apr 29, 2022 8:24:10 GMT
Hi sleepy - I'm guessing that the answer to your quiz question might be Dave Edwards?
Hi sleepy and welsh rover - I think you're mixing up these results from way back?
07 Oct 2006 Wales v Slovakia (Cardiff) 1-5 UEFA European Championship
12 Sep 2007 Slovakia v Wales (Trnava) 2-5 UEFA European Championship
As for future TV coverage, I hope S4C can work something out with viaplay, like they have done with SKY.
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