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Post by robin1864 on Oct 4, 2018 0:00:47 GMT
Well, yes - as I said I was being semi-facetious. But if you look at Matondo's situation - he is faced with Bale, Brooks, Woodburn, Lawrence and Wilson as competition for the wide attacking berths. Apart from Bale the rest are all young and likely to offer competition for years to come. Chris Sutton - not exactly known for his compliments - was gushing about Brooks last night - so we definitely have a lot of quality competing for places in the starting eleven, even if most are still in the process of establishing themselves in the professional game. England have a lot of quality to choose from for sure - but are their options that much better than ours? I don't think so. If at all. Rabbi's going to the very top imo. Only thing that could stop him is the potential attitude problem. This was the opinion of the guys at Cardiff's academy at the time Nothing quite like us to get massively carried away, is it? |
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Post by haruki on Oct 4, 2018 9:32:28 GMT
Yes, a short cameo against Ireland would tie him down too - Giggs mentioned when he joined that he was in conversation with a dual qualified player who was tempted to switch allegiance, I'm guessing he was talking about matondo. he could have been talking about a player looking to switch TO Wales rather than away from us, possibly Michael Sparkes? |
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 4, 2018 13:17:49 GMT
Yes, a short cameo against Ireland would tie him down too - Giggs mentioned when he joined that he was in conversation with a dual qualified player who was tempted to switch allegiance, I'm guessing he was talking about matondo. he could have been talking about a player looking to switch TO Wales rather than away from us, possibly Michael Sparkes? There's a thought. Depends how we worded it i suppose. What was the actual quote? |
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 7, 2018 14:01:14 GMT
Rabbi's going to the very top imo. Only thing that could stop him is the potential attitude problem. This was the opinion of the guys at Cardiff's academy at the time Nothing quite like us to get massively carried away, is it? This is based on having seen him play for Cardiff & Wales, also the opinion of coaches and players in his age group at the time Is he 100% going to be a top player? No, but barring injuries and any attitude problems etc I think he'll be a good Premier League player |
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 9, 2018 13:13:55 GMT
Just read the article in Wales online and I'm pleased to say he's 'Welsh and wants to play for Wales' without discussion. This couldn't have been who Giggs was talking about if this is the case.
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Post by ystradwales on Oct 9, 2018 13:31:42 GMT
Just read the article in Wales online and I'm pleased to say he's 'Welsh and wants to play for Wales' without discussion. This couldn't have been who Giggs was talking about if this is the case. Yes it was a really interesting interview with him. Seems his relationship with Wales is a lot stronger than I thought. Despite being born in Liverpool his time living in Cardiff and its impact on him really comes across strongly. I thought his family had moved to Manchester with him (as is the case with a lost if youngsters i.e. house for family and top education) but they must have stayed in Cardiff for his younger brother. On the basis of that interview I can't see him switch to England |
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Post by georgetm1 on Oct 9, 2018 16:40:54 GMT
Anyone got a link to the article?
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Post by gaz on Oct 9, 2018 16:52:49 GMT
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 9, 2018 18:40:39 GMT
Nothing quite like us to get massively carried away, is it? This is based on having seen him play for Cardiff & Wales, also the opinion of coaches and players in his age group at the time Is he 100% going to be a top player? No, but barring injuries and any attitude problems etc I think he'll be a good Premier League player Jake Cassidy and Tom Bradshaw were supposed to be the next big thing too, according to some on here. Let's wait till he gets regular first team minutes somewhere before hyping him up, please folks? Getting worse than England for this shite. |
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Post by welshiron on Oct 10, 2018 7:16:19 GMT
The difference with Matondo is he is at a big club and has pace to burn.
Long way to go but different gravy to the likes of Bradshaw, Cassidy, Harrison etc.
Injuries could be his Achilles heel
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 10, 2018 8:21:29 GMT
This is based on having seen him play for Cardiff & Wales, also the opinion of coaches and players in his age group at the time Is he 100% going to be a top player? No, but barring injuries and any attitude problems etc I think he'll be a good Premier League player Jake Cassidy and Tom Bradshaw were supposed to be the next big thing too, according to some on here. Let's wait till he gets regular first team minutes somewhere before hyping him up, please folks? Getting worse than England for this shite. I get what you mean by some on here overhyping players but I can’t remember many saying that Bradshaw and Cassidy were going to be the next big thing. The most positive thing I heard about Bradshaw was that he should have been picked as fourth choice striker in the squad instead of Church. |
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Post by iot on Oct 10, 2018 12:16:09 GMT
Jake Cassidy and Tom Bradshaw were supposed to be the next big thing too, according to some on here. Let's wait till he gets regular first team minutes somewhere before hyping him up, please folks? Getting worse than England for this shite. I get what you mean by some on here overhyping players but I can’t remember many saying that Bradshaw and Cassidy were going to be the next big thing. The most positive thing I heard about Bradshaw was that he should have been picked as fourth choice striker in the squad instead of Church.And boy did we hear a lot about that! People were absolutely fuming that Bradshaw wasn't picked as our fourth choice striker |
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Post by iot on Oct 10, 2018 12:17:40 GMT
Just read the article in Wales online and I'm pleased to say he's 'Welsh and wants to play for Wales' without discussion. This couldn't have been who Giggs was talking about if this is the case. Agreed, glad to hear! I can't find the article where Giggs said he was talking with a young player who was considering switching allegiance, but I'm 99.999% sure I didn't dream it  |
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 10, 2018 13:35:36 GMT
This is based on having seen him play for Cardiff & Wales, also the opinion of coaches and players in his age group at the time Is he 100% going to be a top player? No, but barring injuries and any attitude problems etc I think he'll be a good Premier League player Jake Cassidy and Tom Bradshaw were supposed to be the next big thing too, according to some on here. Let's wait till he gets regular first team minutes somewhere before hyping him up, please folks? Getting worse than England for this shite. Jake Cassidy was starting for Wolves in the Championship and scoring, which is easily comparable to Tyler Roberts playing for Leeds so he was definitely worth mentioning. I don't remember saying he was going to be huge though. Just worth having a look at. |
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Post by iot on Oct 10, 2018 17:55:34 GMT
At this point in time, the only one of them we can justifiably hype as 'the next big thing' is Ampadu. I would be very surprised if he didn't go right to the top. Brooks is probably next with the way he's performed in the premier league. He's shown that he can do it at that level and is likely to become a decent prem player, but difficult to say more at this point. Wilson, Woodburn and Roberts have still some way to go before showing they are good enough to be premier league players, let alone 'the next big thing'.
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Post by insertname on Oct 10, 2018 18:18:11 GMT
I get what you mean by some on here overhyping players but I can’t remember many saying that Bradshaw and Cassidy were going to be the next big thing. The most positive thing I heard about Bradshaw was that he should have been picked as fourth choice striker in the squad instead of Church.And boy did we hear a lot about that! People were absolutely fuming that Bradshaw wasn't picked as our fourth choice striker To be fair even though Bradshaw had more goals in his locker than Church most of my annoyance was that that particular selection deilemma was a microcosm of Coleman's policy as a whole and I stand by it that managers should not have favourites even if we are only talking about the 'least talented striker' role. In that sense Giggs has been a breath of fresh air. Picking on merit (mostly) which is exactly as it should be. |
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Post by iot on Oct 10, 2018 18:37:46 GMT
And boy did we hear a lot about that! People were absolutely fuming that Bradshaw wasn't picked as our fourth choice striker To be fair even though Bradshaw had more goals in his locker than Church most of my annoyance was that that particular selection deilemma was a microcosm of Coleman's policy as a whole and I stand by it that managers should not have favourites even if we are only talking about the 'least talented striker' role. In that sense Giggs has been a breath of fresh air. Picking on merit (mostly) which is exactly as it should be. Disagree - my annoyance was that sort of myth was being perpetuated, when in fact we didn't have serious competition for the regulars. All the ones that have broken through since were too young back then and hadn't played any senior football. All the ones where there was clamour for them - bradshaw, marley watkins and maxwell, are still not chosen! As I say, the whole 'Coleman and his favourites' thing was a bit of a myth in my view. Essentially the only places up for grabs (as you acknowledge) were the third or fourth choice in certain positions. Without going back into the Bradshaw v Church debate (which I'm sure everyone would be grateful for!), Coleman probably decided it wasn't worth disrupting squad unity (the key to our success by all accounts) by replacing players that weren't good enough with others who weren't good enough. |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 10, 2018 21:58:20 GMT
To be fair even though Bradshaw had more goals in his locker than Church most of my annoyance was that that particular selection deilemma was a microcosm of Coleman's policy as a whole and I stand by it that managers should not have favourites even if we are only talking about the 'least talented striker' role. In that sense Giggs has been a breath of fresh air. Picking on merit (mostly) which is exactly as it should be. Disagree - my annoyance was that sort of myth was being perpetuated, when in fact we didn't have serious competition for the regulars. All the ones that have broken through since were too young back then and hadn't played any senior football. All the ones where there was clamour for them - bradshaw, marley watkins and maxwell, are still not chosen! As I say, the whole 'Coleman and his favourites' thing was a bit of a myth in my view. Essentially the only places up for grabs (as you acknowledge) were the third or fourth choice in certain positions. Without going back into the Bradshaw v Church debate (which I'm sure everyone would be grateful for!), Coleman probably decided it wasn't worth disrupting squad unity (the key to our success by all accounts) by replacing players that weren't good enough with others who weren't good enough. Exactly, I’m pretty sure if Woodburn has come along two years earlier he would definitely have got the nod over ‘favourite’ Church Also worth noting that the manager that gave Woodburn,Ampadu,Wilson and Brookes their debut was Coleman not Giggs |
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Post by welshiron on Oct 11, 2018 7:46:21 GMT
Where is the clamour for Bradshaw now.
Behind Steve Morison at Millwall
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Post by manulike on Nov 7, 2018 14:55:54 GMT
Rabbi starts for Man City U19s in the UEFA youth league vs Shakhtar Donetsk.
Anyone have a live stream for that? Starts 3pm. Should be available, as on BT sport
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Post by quetzal on Nov 7, 2018 23:26:46 GMT
Won a penalty and goal disallowed I read on Twitter. The guy also reckons he’ll win a Welsh cap within 18 months.
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Post by joseywales37 on Nov 8, 2018 10:46:22 GMT
Really looking forward to watching this lads development. As much as I don't want City to win anything, seeing Matondo and Smith so highly thought of by them and Matondo training with the quality and the manager they have and then bringing that to us is amazing.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 8, 2018 11:38:06 GMT
Really looking forward to watching this lads development. As much as I don't want City to win anything, seeing Matondo and Smith so highly thought of by them and Matondo training with the quality and the manager they have and then bringing that to us is amazing. This is what excites me the most. Look at the work Pep has done with Raheem Sterling since he's taken over. No better place for a player playing in Matondo's position right now than Man City. |
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Post by zenith on Nov 18, 2018 10:40:42 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 18, 2018 11:18:06 GMT
Yes, definitely a shock. As we aren’t short in that position, it’s presumably to get him experience with the senior squad. As it’s not a competitive fixture there’s no accusation of tying him to us by bringing him on as sub |
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Post by zenith on Nov 18, 2018 11:20:55 GMT
Yes, definitely a shock. As we aren’t short in that position, it’s presumably to get him experience with the senior squad. As it’s not a competitive fixture there’s no accusation of tying him to us by bringing him on as sub I think his call up may tell us that George Thomas might not be fit for Albania, we will see. |
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Post by pendragon on Nov 18, 2018 22:27:07 GMT
I've commented that we already have plenty of options in attack, and we do. I think we definitely need to work on our defence.
That said, I am also excited to see how this young man fits into our squad along with Bale, Ramsey, Brooks and Wilson. With Bale's injury record, he may become a very tangible attacking option in future.
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Post by manulike on Nov 18, 2018 23:12:56 GMT
I've never seen Rabbi play for City U23, but pretty sure we used him both as a left sided winger as well as an out and out striker at U17/U19 for us.
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Post by majorraglan on Nov 18, 2018 23:30:15 GMT
He should be proud being callled up to represent his country at such a young age, well done to him. We have seen Ampadu has what it takes and why not Rabbi. Good luck in Albania.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 18, 2018 23:34:39 GMT
I've never seen Rabbi play for City U23, but pretty sure we used him both as a left sided winger as well as an out and out striker at U17/U19 for us. There are a few highlights online. What stands out for me is his pace (described as being faster than Sanè, Sterling and Walker) and he appears to be a very clinical finisher. I can see him working very well with Bale and Brooks in particular. While I'm conflicted about his call-up, watching this young man develop with us will be incredibly exciting. |
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