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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 5, 2023 15:27:03 GMT
Didn't want to pay 700k, bit weird, it's not like they would have been breaking the bank and you can't expect a club in Cardiff's situation to just give away a fringe attacker. Contract's up in the summer though so why pay 700k now? |
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 5, 2023 18:56:30 GMT
Didn't want to pay 700k, bit weird, it's not like they would have been breaking the bank and you can't expect a club in Cardiff's situation to just give away a fringe attacker. Contract's up in the summer though so why pay 700k now? I thought they'd have wanted him to boost their promotion push. I'm not saying he would have but if he'd have contributed something that helped them get promoted that 700k, which wouldn't have been paid all at once anyway I doubt, would be a drop in the ocean. You can't expect him for free just yet, not if Cardiff are still using him, still needing him, it makes no sense and seems a little audacious of Blackburn. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 30, 2023 17:36:58 GMT
Leaving Cardiff on a free transfer, previously linked with Blackburn & Stoke
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 30, 2023 20:02:52 GMT
Would be willing to bet he lands in League One
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 1, 2023 7:45:49 GMT
Lots of work rate but very little end product. No surprise CCFC have let him go. Probably a League 1 player at best. I think his record is something like 5 goals in 90 odd appearances
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Post by hooky on Jul 1, 2023 9:02:05 GMT
Look at my comments when we played Belarus. I said how limited he was, especially given his age which signalled there was little upside and most shot me down.
Seriously, I am a fan and while I understand other fans not seeing how limited players are, I do not understand how a coach / management team do not see it. I guess when the manager was very limited as a player themselves, they tend to have more sympathy than they should for the likes of a Harris, Morrell (yes I know we had little option but he is a major weakness all the good teams exploited), etc
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Post by surge on Jul 1, 2023 9:22:30 GMT
Look at my comments when we played Belarus. I said how limited he was, especially given his age which signalled there was little upside and most shot me down. Seriously, I am a fan and while I understand other fans not seeing how limited players are, I do not understand how a coach / management team do not see it. I guess when the manager was very limited as a player themselves, they tend to have more sympathy than they should for the likes of a Harris, Morrell (yes I know we had little option but he is a major weakness all the good teams exploited), etc It's not like club football where you can go out and buy players. Morrell has been in the system for 60 caps now, his performances have ranged from 4-7.5/10 but 90% of games have been 6.5/10 or better so usually stands up to opposition teams trying to exploit his presence. Harris has 5 caps with a single cap in 2022 and none since, but he made a difference Belarus away by being a nuisance and we're not blessed with many strikers 6ft plus who are mobile and quick - there was a reason people wanted to give him a chance at club and international level. What I find amazing about Harris is the lack of goals. Honestly, if you watch each of the 9 goals since start of 2020-21 season at Championship level and you'll see a mobile, quick, tall, hardworking player who can score from inside and outside the box even with lack of midfield support. But he does seem to be missing something skills wise (neither does he fit naturally into a defined position on the pitch) and does need a move to see if he can develop it in more stable environment. |
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Post by gimli on Jul 1, 2023 10:32:03 GMT
Look at my comments when we played Belarus. I said how limited he was, especially given his age which signalled there was little upside and most shot me down. Seriously, I am a fan and while I understand other fans not seeing how limited players are, I do not understand how a coach / management team do not see it. I guess when the manager was very limited as a player themselves, they tend to have more sympathy than they should for the likes of a Harris, Morrell (yes I know we had little option but he is a major weakness all the good teams exploited), etc It's not like club football where you can go out and buy players. Morrell has been in the system for 60 caps now, his performances have ranged from 4-7.5/10 but 90% of games have been 6.5/10 or better so usually stands up to opposition teams trying to exploit his presence. Harris has 5 caps with a single cap in 2022 and none since, but he made a difference Belarus away by being a nuisance and we're not blessed with many strikers 6ft plus who are mobile and quick - there was a reason people wanted to give him a chance at club and international level. What I find amazing about Harris is the lack of goals. Honestly, if you watch each of the 9 goals since start of 2020-21 season at Championship level and you'll see a mobile, quick, tall, hardworking player who can score from inside and outside the box even with lack of midfield support. But he does seem to be missing something skills wise (neither does he fit naturally into a defined position on the pitch) and does need a move to see if he can develop it in more stable environment.
I think he's been a victim of the poor level of coaching at Cardiff over the past few years. I don't think he's ever going to be a world-beater, but he has the physical tools and the graft to be a decent mid table Champ player. I'm sure a good coach could turn him into an effective player. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jul 1, 2023 10:57:48 GMT
He was offered a deal apparently and turned it down
I do agree and think a lot of our players have suffered from the poor coaching at Cardiff, including the likes of Harris & Colwill
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Post by iot on Jul 1, 2023 15:33:40 GMT
Look at my comments when we played Belarus. I said how limited he was, especially given his age which signalled there was little upside and most shot me down. Seriously, I am a fan and while I understand other fans not seeing how limited players are, I do not understand how a coach / management team do not see it. I guess when the manager was very limited as a player themselves, they tend to have more sympathy than they should for the likes of a Harris, Morrell (yes I know we had little option but he is a major weakness all the good teams exploited), etc I have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously everyone understands how limited he is - it's quite funny how pleased you are with yourself that you think you've spotted something many others haven't. His goalscoring record speaks for itself. However, it's all relative and he's only had the handful of caps he has because of how few striking options we have. He's one of the very few players we've had in recent years who runs in behind and stretches defences. It's really strange that you referred to the Belarus game, because he undoubtedly changed that game for us. 2-1 down when he came on, and it was his run and assist that set up Bale's winner. Strange comment. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 1, 2023 17:37:06 GMT
I’d be very surprised if he stayed in the championship. His goal ratio is the same as most defenders.
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Post by marsvolta on Jul 1, 2023 21:31:10 GMT
I’d be very surprised if he stayed in the championship. His goal ratio is the same as most defenders. Well if he ends up in League 1 then it makes you wonder what contract he turned down from Cardiff |
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Post by hooky on Jul 1, 2023 22:24:34 GMT
Look at my comments when we played Belarus. I said how limited he was, especially given his age which signalled there was little upside and most shot me down. Seriously, I am a fan and while I understand other fans not seeing how limited players are, I do not understand how a coach / management team do not see it. I guess when the manager was very limited as a player themselves, they tend to have more sympathy than they should for the likes of a Harris, Morrell (yes I know we had little option but he is a major weakness all the good teams exploited), etc I have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously everyone understands how limited he is - it's quite funny how pleased you are with yourself that you think you've spotted something many others haven't. His goalscoring record speaks for itself. However, it's all relative and he's only had the handful of caps he has because of how few striking options we have. He's one of the very few players we've had in recent years who runs in behind and stretches defences. It's really strange that you referred to the Belarus game, because he undoubtedly changed that game for us. 2-1 down when he came on, and it was his run and assist that set up Bale's winner. Strange comment. Come on - he fluffed his chance and was lucky with how things broke as he was not exactly in control His contribution was exaggerated - we know the name of the man who saved us from defeat that day! |
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Post by iot on Jul 1, 2023 22:42:35 GMT
I have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously everyone understands how limited he is - it's quite funny how pleased you are with yourself that you think you've spotted something many others haven't. His goalscoring record speaks for itself. However, it's all relative and he's only had the handful of caps he has because of how few striking options we have. He's one of the very few players we've had in recent years who runs in behind and stretches defences. It's really strange that you referred to the Belarus game, because he undoubtedly changed that game for us. 2-1 down when he came on, and it was his run and assist that set up Bale's winner. Strange comment. Come on - he fluffed his chance and was lucky with how things broke as he was not exactly in control His contribution was exaggerated - we know the name of the man who saved us from defeat that day! We were much improved after he and Jonny came on. That final instance of play clearly shows what Harris offers and what he lacks. His movement in behind was excellent, no other player was doing that for us before he came on. If he doesn't do that, we don't score that goal and there's a good chance we don't finish second in the group to get a favourable draw. I agree, he then had a very tame finish, which is why his goal record is so poor, but the fact is a goal still came out of it. That encapsulates for me the flaw in looking at his goalscoring record in isolation. There's a reason why two championship clubs, including Blackburn, are after him and why he was confident enough to turn down a new contract offer from Cardiff. |
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Post by janglingjack on Jul 1, 2023 23:30:58 GMT
you are a rose tinted maniac,he is average,if he was not welsh he would never ever be mentioned,i like your pluck though,that's 90% of this site,full of would be plumers
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 2, 2023 5:20:42 GMT
I’d be very surprised if he stayed in the championship. His goal ratio is the same as most defenders. Well if he ends up in League 1 then it makes you wonder what contract he turned down from Cardiff The new manager didn’t rate him. The deal was offered before the new manager arrived and was a reduced contract/pay from his previous one. He was holding out for more money. Which he was entitled to do.The club withdrew its offer when terms couldn’t be agreed. he’s had previous loan spells at Wrexham, Port Vale and Newport and for a striker his goals are extremely poor.( for CCFC I think it’s 5 in 90 appearances ).As I said previously I’d be very surprised if he somehow gets a championship club to pick him up. More than likely league 1 or 2. Possibly that’s his International career over too. We shall have to wait and see. |
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Post by zserty on Jul 2, 2023 6:42:04 GMT
Well if he ends up in League 1 then it makes you wonder what contract he turned down from Cardiff The new manager didn’t rate him. The deal was offered before the new manager arrived and was a reduced contract/pay from his previous one. He was holding out for more money. Which he was entitled to do.The club withdrew its offer when terms couldn’t be agreed. he’s had previous loan spells at Wrexham, Port Vale and Newport and for a striker his goals are extremely poor.( for CCFC I think it’s 5 in 90 appearances ).As I said previously I’d be very surprised if he somehow gets a championship club to pick him up. More than likely league 1 or 2. Possibly that’s his International career over too. We shall have to wait and see. Not to be too harsh but i was incredibly surprised he had a call up and even got minutes on the pitch. He will put a shift in, but i don't think he is up to scratch. He could be more than good enough at League 2 or 1 level. Maybe a different coaching setup can get a tune out of him and he can get back in the Wales picture. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 2, 2023 12:35:22 GMT
Linked to Derby so step down a league may be what he needs
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Post by cymroircarn on Jul 2, 2023 12:58:34 GMT
Could do well at Derby
A willing runner, works hard, but end quality or pace not there for higher level.
Wish him the best of luck
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Post by dai on Jul 2, 2023 14:34:53 GMT
I reckon League 2 is his level, but will be interested to see how he does wherever he goes. Has never been good enough for championship football. Bit of a poor mans Simon Church if we're being honest.
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Post by welshrover on Jul 2, 2023 16:09:16 GMT
It's a brave move if he hasn't got a club lined up.
Must have confidence in himself.
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 3, 2023 8:05:24 GMT
Most CCFC fans are glad he’s going. I’d be very underwhelmed if my club signed him.
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Post by robin1864 on Jul 3, 2023 17:14:11 GMT
Seemed lively for his few appearances for Wrexham many years ago, very direct and posed a credible threat. Reality seems to be he's the new Simon Church.
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Post by quetzal on Jul 4, 2023 0:16:18 GMT
Not a cool head infront of goal. Slams ball at keeper a lot
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 4, 2023 9:47:07 GMT
His one thing he is good at is timing runs into the channels, which can be very useful. But it's not enough to sustain a career in the Championship
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Post by manulike on Jul 4, 2023 14:17:51 GMT
Peeps.
I'm getting all excited hearing our Mark is a new Simon Church.
#LEGEND
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Post by aberbeeg on Jul 5, 2023 7:27:30 GMT
Seemed lively for his few appearances for Wrexham many years ago, very direct and posed a credible threat. Reality seems to be he's the new Simon Church. That’s his career in a nutshell…ultimately zero end product |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 5, 2023 8:38:41 GMT
Seemed lively for his few appearances for Wrexham many years ago, very direct and posed a credible threat. Reality seems to be he's the new Simon Church. That’s his career in a nutshell…ultimately zero end product carrer? he is only 24. you expect to get beter as years go by, he no bale with endless talent |
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Post by robin1864 on Jul 5, 2023 10:49:01 GMT
Outside bet - Celtic maybe?
He'd certainly need a really compelling offer to turn down Cardiff, and they've just sold Jota.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 5, 2023 16:58:04 GMT
Outside bet - Celtic maybe? He'd certainly need a really compelling offer to turn down Cardiff, and they've just sold Jota. You get big odds on that. |
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