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Post by alarch on Feb 6, 2020 14:04:52 GMT
The first injury was a broken bone in his foot (which he played on with for 6 or 7 minutes, the fool). The second we all saw coming from a mile away because he was playing through pain and even finished that final game. His injury record in development football was really good, not seeing any pattern there. Conspiracy theories. As I say, no idea how reliable the Leicester done deal rumour is and the reason for them pulling out was just pure speculation, so there's a good chance he isn't injury prone at all and just been unlucky these past two seasons. I'll feel better once he goes through a season of senior footie without a long layoff. As for the man city rumour, I'm not sure that would be a good move. I think John Stone gets unfair stick, he's actually a very good defender imo. He has all the attributes needed, the only reason he gets stick is because he has the odd howler every now and again when trying to play out from the back. Ironically, Rodon's had those exact same criticisms on a couple of occasions already. I really rate rodon, but let's not underestimate how good stones and otamendi are - there's a reason they both signed for 50m and 35m respectively. Pep seems to have lost faith in them and the fans done the same, it's extremely unforgiving up there. So in time I would be surprised if Rodon didn't get the same treatment after a howler or two. Perfectly reasonable points - so a move to a club like Leicester, or even Chelsea, might provide a more forgiving stepping stone to an eventual progression to a top tier club. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 6, 2020 14:46:19 GMT
The Coleman had a Dream podcast talk A LOT of rubbish most of the time, there is very little informed opinions on that. I gave up after a few listens.
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Post by BA Baracus on Feb 6, 2020 14:55:54 GMT
The Coleman had a Dream podcast talk A LOT of rubbish most of the time, there is very little informed opinions on that. I gave up after a few listens. Was gonna give it try, but based on that review, I won't bother :-) On a similar subject, EJFOF has gone off the boil a bit of late. Maybe it's the lack of international action at the moment. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Feb 6, 2020 15:23:13 GMT
The Coleman had a Dream podcast talk A LOT of rubbish most of the time, there is very little informed opinions on that. I gave up after a few listens. You lasted longer than me then! I found the recording quality quite poor as well on the one I tried to listen too. EJFOF is far superior For Welsh speakers, Malcolm Allen and OTJ have a podcast as well |
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Post by iot on Feb 6, 2020 15:47:08 GMT
Some harsh stuff on coleman had a dream. The sound quality is ok, probably better than the podcast peldroed one used to be and it's obviously not a professional production so harsh to criticise on that basis.
Re the content and analysis, I completely disagree with a lot of the stuff and think some of it is quite ridiculous, but I could also say the same about podcast peldroed and EJFOF to an extent. Lots of other stuff is interesting and stuff I hadn't thought about. It's worth a listen in my view anyway.
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 6, 2020 16:38:40 GMT
I'm not that bothered about sound quality, fair play to anyone having a go with their phone and mics. Podcast Pel-Droed is soooooo much better than CHAD though, they're not even in the same league when it comes to depth of knowledge and quality of conversation. Shame PPD stopped for now, hopefully they'll be back for the internationals and Euros.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 16:48:46 GMT
John Stones was making frequent errors even when he was at Everton and his reputation was always puffed up by the usual 'young English prospect' hype while looking calm and cultured on the ball. "He's young so he'll learn" was the oft-repeated soundbite. Some players don't.
Rodon's definitely a centre half of the style big clubs are looking for. Ash was a great defender for us but you could never see him stepping up into a dominant team where he'd have to do most of his defending alone against the counter. Joe's got the recovery pace and ball-carrying ability to thrive in a top, top side. And being 6'4 doesn't hurt.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 6, 2020 20:11:20 GMT
If Rodon were to join Man City and was involved in the first team that would do a world of good for Cymru. Even if he wasn't starting every game. Pep improves all of his players, and whilst John Stones may not have become the next Pique as everyone thought he might, he is still an international class defender, which is what we need.
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Post by iot on Feb 11, 2020 20:39:07 GMT
Is Rodon carrying another injury? He's looked extremely sluggish in this first half. There was one two-min spell where he air-kicked an attempted pass, got nutmegged, got totally outdone for pace leading to the striker going through on goal, and then lost his man on a corner. He seemed to be limping quite heavily after their striker blitzed by him - not sure if it was trying to cover for his embarrassment or if it was genuine. I thought he was supposed to be quick? He's looked extremely languid anyway.
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Post by manulike on Feb 11, 2020 20:40:11 GMT
Must admit that I was thinking the same.
Hope not ;-( especially seeing that the gaffer is in attendance ...<!---->
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Post by iot on Feb 11, 2020 20:48:42 GMT
Must admit that I was thinking the same. Hope not ;-( especially seeing that the gaffer is in attendance ...<!----> I know, I've only really watched him in a Wales shirt where he's done alright, but it's just been the four games. So I was looking forward to this game to see what the hype is all about - the hype that has him as our first choice cb and has man city and leicester chasing his signature. I must be watching the wrong player... |
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Post by iot on Feb 11, 2020 21:39:15 GMT
Rodon had a much better second half where he won most of his duels. Roberts had a decent enough game - his work rate is so good he gets himself into great positions all the time, I just wish he had a bit more sharpness and quality in the final third to make the most of those chances.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 22:04:37 GMT
Is Rodon carrying another injury? He's looked extremely sluggish in this first half. There was one two-min spell where he air-kicked an attempted pass, got nutmegged, got totally outdone for pace leading to the striker going through on goal, and then lost his man on a corner. He seemed to be limping quite heavily after their striker blitzed by him - not sure if it was trying to cover for his embarrassment or if it was genuine. I thought he was supposed to be quick? He's looked extremely languid anyway. He's always been quite stiff. Needs a sprint coach to lengthen his stride and maybe a bit more yoga. Runs like his boots are too small, but his legs do move pretty quick. Faster over 25 yards than 5. We're an awful team at the minute, hard to blame players for individual lapses when it's such a shambles all around them. Sooner we sack Cooper the better. |
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Post by cadno on Feb 11, 2020 22:55:27 GMT
Is Rodon carrying another injury? He's looked extremely sluggish in this first half. There was one two-min spell where he air-kicked an attempted pass, got nutmegged, got totally outdone for pace leading to the striker going through on goal, and then lost his man on a corner. He seemed to be limping quite heavily after their striker blitzed by him - not sure if it was trying to cover for his embarrassment or if it was genuine. I thought he was supposed to be quick? He's looked extremely languid anyway. He's always been quite stiff. Needs a sprint coach to lengthen his stride and maybe a bit more yoga. Runs like his boots are too small, but his legs do move pretty quick. Faster over 25 yards than 5. We're an awful team at the minute, hard to blame players for individual lapses when it's such a shambles all around them. Sooner we sack Cooper the better. That was a very boring game. Why didn't Cooper make more subs? I was desperate to see Liam Cullen come on! Chester and Ash would be my starting CBs for the euros. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 23:51:04 GMT
He's always been quite stiff. Needs a sprint coach to lengthen his stride and maybe a bit more yoga. Runs like his boots are too small, but his legs do move pretty quick. Faster over 25 yards than 5. We're an awful team at the minute, hard to blame players for individual lapses when it's such a shambles all around them. Sooner we sack Cooper the better. That was a very boring game. Why didn't Cooper make more subs? I was desperate to see Liam Cullen come on! Chester and Ash would be my starting CBs for the euros. I genuinely think he forgets he can make subs. Definitely forgot the other day when Cullen was stood behind him for 5 minutes waiting. 4th official had to remind him the second time it went out for a throw. Doesn't seem to understand that players get tired, works them like dogs in training... he's a kids tournament manager not used to dealing with high intensity men's football over a long, hectic season. Matt Grimes said near the start of the season Graham Potter was far more focused on recovery and pacing players out. With Cooper it's win win win. Matty Jones (currently our interim u23s assistant) was sat next to Giggs in the stands. Well thought of young coach. |
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Post by cadno on Feb 12, 2020 9:17:00 GMT
That was a very boring game. Why didn't Cooper make more subs? I was desperate to see Liam Cullen come on! Chester and Ash would be my starting CBs for the euros. I genuinely think he forgets he can make subs. Definitely forgot the other day when Cullen was stood behind him for 5 minutes waiting. 4th official had to remind him the second time it went out for a throw. Doesn't seem to understand that players get tired, works them like dogs in training... he's a kids tournament manager not used to dealing with high intensity men's football over a long, hectic season. Matt Grimes said near the start of the season Graham Potter was far more focused on recovery and pacing players out. With Cooper it's win win win. Matty Jones (currently our interim u23s assistant) was sat next to Giggs in the stands. Well thought of young coach. I noticed Cullen trying to get eye contact with Cooper when he was warming up haha. Who's the new centre back? Thought he started a bit sloppy but grew into the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 10:20:26 GMT
I genuinely think he forgets he can make subs. Definitely forgot the other day when Cullen was stood behind him for 5 minutes waiting. 4th official had to remind him the second time it went out for a throw. Doesn't seem to understand that players get tired, works them like dogs in training... he's a kids tournament manager not used to dealing with high intensity men's football over a long, hectic season. Matt Grimes said near the start of the season Graham Potter was far more focused on recovery and pacing players out. With Cooper it's win win win. Matty Jones (currently our interim u23s assistant) was sat next to Giggs in the stands. Well thought of young coach. I noticed Cullen trying to get eye contact with Cooper when he was warming up haha. Who's the new centre back? Thought he started a bit sloppy but grew into the game. Marc Guehi, another Chelsea kid with guaranteed gametime. Was very poor before last night. Did alright after the first 10 minutes, yeah. They'll be chuffed he's getting experience and working through teething troubles while our own youngsters (and Wilmot) sit on the sidelines. Brandon Cooper went to non-league Yeovil and made his debut last night. They lost 3-0. Jack Evans didn't get off the bench again for a shocking Mansfield side (their fans are fuming about everything up there). |
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Post by alarch on Feb 13, 2020 23:04:18 GMT
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 14, 2020 9:01:01 GMT
He's our best centre back already at only 22. He's nailed on starter for me in every competitive match from now on. Ash still starts alongside...for now at least.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 10:27:53 GMT
That's a surprisingly good report for something in the daily mail. Picks up on a few things most fans don't notice about positioning and reading of the game away from the ball. And his weird gait, as I've mentioned before. |
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Post by barry on Feb 14, 2020 18:56:16 GMT
Not in the squad tonight.
Probably carrying a knock or not fully fit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 19:42:08 GMT
Not in the squad tonight. Probably carrying a knock or not fully fit. |
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Post by iot on Feb 14, 2020 20:41:05 GMT
As I said before, until he goes throughout a season without long injury layoffs, I will remain sceptical about his injury proneness
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Post by alarch on Feb 16, 2020 19:54:51 GMT
As I said before, until he goes throughout a season without long injury layoffs, I will remain sceptical about his injury proneness Understandable pessimism for a Welsh fan. |
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Post by barry on Mar 7, 2020 17:56:16 GMT
Faultless display today even though he played most of the match with a bandaged head.
Cabango had a very good game as well.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 30, 2020 15:59:50 GMT
Looks like Rodon’s season may be over after picking up another injury:
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Post by hooky on Jun 30, 2020 19:01:29 GMT
Are we cursed?
2 incredible stars and Ramsey has been regularly injured throughout his career, as has Bale for the last 3 years.
We get two promising young. big central defenders both seem injury prone, especially the best one - Rondon. Why???
Brooks, Tyler Roberts, Woodburn - the last 3 are constantly start stop while Brooks was developing rapidly then gets a serious injury. Then you have Ampadu with chronic back problems
Would is it with us? Why always the talented ones? Look at England - Trent Arnold, Sancho - when are they ever injured, or Robertson for Scotland. We seem to be cursed!
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Post by hooky on Jun 30, 2020 19:02:50 GMT
I am not feeling god about Rondon. His injury record is concerning. So annoying as I think he could gave been a top player, especially given his attitude.
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Post by iot on Jun 30, 2020 19:35:13 GMT
Yes it's a shocking record. He's had almost two full seasons as a senior player at swansea and he's been available for less than half the games because of injury. I don't think swans fans can continue to pass this off as a series of unlucky injuries.
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Post by alarch on Jun 30, 2020 19:46:52 GMT
Yes it's a shocking record. He's had almost two full seasons as a senior player at swansea and he's been available for less than half the games because of injury. I don't think swans fans can continue to pass this off as a series of unlucky injuries. It's a concern for sure, but the injuries have been varied. I just hope the ankle injury that's just occurred isn't with the same ankle that he had surgery on. |
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