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Post by barry on Aug 21, 2019 21:18:17 GMT
Certainly put the boo boys behind him. Magnificent display.
Could well end up a top 6 player.
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Post by welshiron on Aug 21, 2019 21:19:21 GMT
Championship or EPL?
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Post by alarch on Aug 21, 2019 22:28:47 GMT
He's already a top 6 championship player...
MOTM display tonight. Class act.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 26, 2019 16:56:08 GMT
It's a lot to ask, but I feel that if Rodon can hit the ground running for us he can play a big part in steering our campaign back on track. If we can become more solid, I'm sure our attacking talent can take care of the rest. What we need is consistency, and I think Roberts-Rodon-Mepham-Davies gives us potential stability over the next few years, if all are fit and available.
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 27, 2019 9:29:32 GMT
The commentator the other day said:
'This striker is not getting any joy up against Van Der Hoorn. He needs to get over to Rodon's side where he will have far more joy.' I think he was talking specifically about aerial battles but still. Is this accurate?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 13:08:12 GMT
The commentator the other day said: 'This striker is not getting any joy up against Van Der Hoorn. He needs to get over to Rodon's side where he will have far more joy.' I think he was talking specifically about aerial battles but still. Is this accurate? Couldn't be further from the truth. Rodon is taller than vdH, jumps higher, and all the aerial duel stats make Joe the better player in the air. One of the major criticisms of vdH (there aren't many) are that he often won't even bother to jump, choosing instead to lean into his man to put them off balance. We've conceded once this season already because of it. We're far, far better defending set pieces with Rodon back in the team instead of 6' in shoes Carter-Vickers. |
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Post by alarch on Aug 27, 2019 20:59:30 GMT
If you compare Rodon's defensive stats to those of Van Der Hoorn, Rodon's are better on just about all counts - including tackles, interceptions and blocks. Both are rated on whoscored.com as very strong on passing and strong on blocking the ball. By any objective criteria Rodon is more than holding his own in what is a very strong defensive partnership.
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Post by cadno on Aug 27, 2019 21:50:17 GMT
He should start vs Azerbaijan. Apparently lockyer has had a good start for charlton too though...
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Post by alarch on Aug 27, 2019 22:22:06 GMT
If Lockyear starts ahead of Rodon I'd love to know the rationale. Apart from anything else Tom Lockyear is only 5' 11", which is rather short for a centre back. OK, so Chester, Davies and Williams are in the same ball park height wise - but you'd only select a short centre back over a tall one (Rodon is 6' 4") if they had some outstanding virtues. What would those superior virtues be in Lockyear's case?
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 28, 2019 7:18:52 GMT
If Lockyear starts ahead of Rodon I'd love to know the rationale. Apart from anything else Tom Lockyear is only 5' 11", which is rather short for a centre back. OK, so Chester, Davies and Williams are in the same ball park height wise - but you'd only select a short centre back over a tall one (Rodon is 6' 4") if they had some outstanding virtues. What would those superior virtues be in Lockyear's case? Height is not a superior virtue in and of itself. You only need one tall CB and one to sweep. Also there is no direct link with heading ability and height. |
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Post by cadno on Aug 28, 2019 7:42:27 GMT
From what I've seen, Rodon is the best centre half in our squad.
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Post by underwood on Aug 28, 2019 11:41:01 GMT
From what I've seen, Rodon is the best centre half in our squad. On the basis of playing a few games in the Championship as opposed to coming up against Man City for instance? |
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Post by alarch on Aug 28, 2019 13:49:56 GMT
If Lockyear starts ahead of Rodon I'd love to know the rationale. Apart from anything else Tom Lockyear is only 5' 11", which is rather short for a centre back. OK, so Chester, Davies and Williams are in the same ball park height wise - but you'd only select a short centre back over a tall one (Rodon is 6' 4") if they had some outstanding virtues. What would those superior virtues be in Lockyear's case? Height is not a superior virtue in and of itself. You only need one tall CB and one to sweep. Also there is no direct link with heading ability and height. I beg to differ. Yes, you can have short centre backs with a good spring on them, such as Chester, or physical short centre backs, such as Williams, who attempt to prevent a clean win. But all else being equal taller centre backs clearly have an edge in aerial battles. Why do you think Guardiola and Klopp both have tall centre backs? |
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Post by richierich333 on Aug 28, 2019 14:41:51 GMT
Height is not a superior virtue in and of itself. You only need one tall CB and one to sweep. Also there is no direct link with heading ability and height. I beg to differ. Yes, you can have short centre backs with a good spring on them, such as Chester, or physical short centre backs, such as Williams, who attempt to prevent a clean win. But all else being equal taller centre backs clearly have an edge in aerial battles. Why do you think Guardiola and Klopp both have tall centre backs? Mascherano played centre back for one of the best teams of all time. |
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Post by cadno on Aug 28, 2019 19:38:23 GMT
From what I've seen, Rodon is the best centre half in our squad. On the basis of playing a few games in the Championship as opposed to coming up against Man City for instance? sorry I don't understand what you mean? I've seen them all play a bit, and from what I've seen, Rodon is the better player... |
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Post by underwood on Aug 30, 2019 10:30:39 GMT
On the basis of playing a few games in the Championship as opposed to coming up against Man City for instance? sorry I don't understand what you mean? I've seen them all play a bit, and from what I've seen, Rodon is the better player... You may well have seen them all play, in which case you will appreciate that playing against Birmingham City is less demanding than Manchester City. So Rodon may well look like a very good player if heโs not being tested in the same manner as Mepham. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 12:26:03 GMT
We stuck Matt Grimes at centre half against City and should've won the game. Can't be that hard a test.
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Post by cadno on Aug 31, 2019 8:12:31 GMT
sorry I don't understand what you mean? I've seen them all play a bit, and from what I've seen, Rodon is the better player... You may well have seen them all play, in which case you will appreciate that playing against Birmingham City is less demanding than Manchester City. So Rodon may well look like a very good player if heโs not being tested in the same manner as Mepham. I see your point, I think Rodon fits straight into a team like Bournemouth right now, and wouldn't look out of place. He'll get the opportunity soon! |
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Post by CrackityJones on Aug 31, 2019 16:04:57 GMT
Another clean sheet at high scoring Leeds. Remarkable.
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Post by barry on Aug 31, 2019 16:18:07 GMT
Great tackle in the lead up to the goal as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/cxx29o/leeds_united_01_swansea_routledge_89/
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Post by alarch on Aug 31, 2019 17:10:05 GMT
MOTM performance today - absolutely immense. Superb composure against a team that excels at the high press. Apparently Lockyer had another good game for Charlton too, but if it's a choice between the two of them I struggle to see how Giggs could prefer Lockyear.
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Post by zenith on Aug 31, 2019 18:31:01 GMT
MOTM performance today - absolutely immense. Superb composure against a team that excels at the high press. Apparently Lockyer had another good game for Charlton too, but if it's a choice between the two of them I struggle to see how Giggs could prefer Lockyear. Fast forward to next Friday and the partnership is Lockyer and James Lawrence lol |
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Post by manulike on Sept 2, 2019 19:55:59 GMT
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Post by barneycat1 on Sept 4, 2019 21:52:08 GMT
Has to start.
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Post by cadno on Sept 5, 2019 8:04:00 GMT
100%, he's the best centre half in the sqaud for these games. |
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Post by aberdarebrick on Sept 5, 2019 8:16:58 GMT
There needs to be a degree of patience with Joe Rodon. He's got massive potential but is liable to the odd mistake and iffy pass, but that will come with experience. An excellent reader of the game, great at bringing the ball out and he's got decent pace. He's also got a magic hat. Good luck tomorrow, Joe.
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Post by nwcherries on Sept 5, 2019 9:27:11 GMT
I haven't seen much of Rodon but he sounds very impressive. You can't underestimate the step-up required to look even mildly competent in the PL though. Mepham last season had great individual games against players like Aguero and Sterling and has had a mostly decent start to this season; as good as Rodon might be you can't compare the two until he's been tested at the top level.
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Post by welshiron on Sept 5, 2019 13:45:23 GMT
MOTM performance today - absolutely immense. Superb composure against a team that excels at the high press. Apparently Lockyer had another good game for Charlton too, but if it's a choice between the two of them I struggle to see how Giggs could prefer Lockyear. Fast forward to next Friday and the partnership is Lockyer and James Lawrence lol With Vaulks in front of them |
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Post by manulike on Sept 5, 2019 21:30:01 GMT
Fast forward to next Friday and the partnership is Lockyer and James Lawrence lol With Vaulks in front of them NOW YOU ARE TALKING ;-) |
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Post by cadno on Sept 5, 2019 21:34:02 GMT
I haven't seen much of Rodon but he sounds very impressive. You can't underestimate the step-up required to look even mildly competent in the PL though. Mepham last season had great individual games against players like Aguero and Sterling and has had a mostly decent start to this season; as good as Rodon might be you can't compare the two until he's been tested at the top level. Correct it's not really possible to settle who's the better player until Rodon makes the step up... I'm looking forward to (hopefully) seeing him in action tomorrow night. |
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