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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 26, 2018 15:55:07 GMT
Isn't there a limit on loan players in the Premier League? I was under the impression it was 2. I think its 2 domestic loans, Fulham have 5 loanees |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 27, 2018 12:32:49 GMT
I reckon Cardiff City might only start getting themselves into gear towards the end of the season. A few teams were hovering dangerously close to the relegation zone last season and Swansea were in 15th or 16th place. Lo and behold, Swansea ended up getting relegated as some of the others decided to pick themselves up. Maybe this is the long-term game plan. I've got to hand it to Fulham, playing attacking football and giving it everything they've got. They've had a few ugly results but in the main, they're doing ok and seem to be improving. It helps when you spend £100m+! It does but they are only 3 points ahead of Cardiff. Not an unbreachable divide by any means. |
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Post by manulike on Sept 27, 2018 12:42:48 GMT
I trust Giggsy has been invited to see Jazz v Vokes battle it out.
They are both in the periphery of our starting 11 as well as of their own teams.
Looking forward to it ;-)
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 27, 2018 18:20:36 GMT
Some missed opportunities for sure so far. We should have beaten Newcastle and possibly drew with Arsenal. Hopefully we will beat Burnley in the next game which is a realistic chance of 3 points. Newcastle didn't score a last minute penalty to win the game. To say 'should have beaten Newcastle' is laughable. Be grateful you got a point tbh. It's like my Newport County mate, saying their GD is rubbish. They scored a last min winner v Notts County after Notts County equalised late on. To me, this season, discount GD, that's two extra points 99/100 times you do not get. I think it says it all that the only teams yet to win a PL game this season are in the bottom 3, and all have taken points off each other, so they are very poor compared to the other 17 teams. Cardiff have a grand total of 0 points from teams above that dotted line. The only two points they have obtained have been against 10 men too. |
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Post by Griff105 on Sept 28, 2018 6:19:21 GMT
Some missed opportunities for sure so far. We should have beaten Newcastle and possibly drew with Arsenal. Hopefully we will beat Burnley in the next game which is a realistic chance of 3 points. Newcastle didn't score a last minute penalty to win the game. To say 'should have beaten Newcastle' is laughable. Be grateful you got a point tbh. It's like my Newport County mate, saying their GD is rubbish. They scored a last min winner v Notts County after Notts County equalised late on. To me, this season, discount GD, that's two extra points 99/100 times you do not get. I think it says it all that the only teams yet to win a PL game this season are in the bottom 3, and all have taken points off each other, so they are very poor compared to the other 17 teams. Cardiff have a grand total of 0 points from teams above that dotted line. The only two points they have obtained have been against 10 men too. You're desperately Cardiff to fail. Try keeping it on your club forum instead of peddling your bitterness on here. |
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Post by cymru98 on Sept 28, 2018 9:51:51 GMT
Newcastle didn't score a last minute penalty to win the game. To say 'should have beaten Newcastle' is laughable. Be grateful you got a point tbh. It's like my Newport County mate, saying their GD is rubbish. They scored a last min winner v Notts County after Notts County equalised late on. To me, this season, discount GD, that's two extra points 99/100 times you do not get. I think it says it all that the only teams yet to win a PL game this season are in the bottom 3, and all have taken points off each other, so they are very poor compared to the other 17 teams. Cardiff have a grand total of 0 points from teams above that dotted line. The only two points they have obtained have been against 10 men too. You're desperately Cardiff to fail. Try keeping it on your club forum instead of peddling your bitterness on here. He’s obsessed. Can’t see Cardiff staying up myself but who knows in January. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 11:44:09 GMT
An abysmal season where they struggle to earn more than 30 points can shock a club to its very core. They may find it difficult to recover and go in to freefall. Seen it happen many times at all levels.
It may be a long, long season for the Bluebirds if things go on like this.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 28, 2018 12:10:08 GMT
Some missed opportunities for sure so far. We should have beaten Newcastle and possibly drew with Arsenal. Hopefully we will beat Burnley in the next game which is a realistic chance of 3 points. Newcastle didn't score a last minute penalty to win the game. To say 'should have beaten Newcastle' is laughable. Be grateful you got a point tbh. It's like my Newport County mate, saying their GD is rubbish. They scored a last min winner v Notts County after Notts County equalised late on. To me, this season, discount GD, that's two extra points 99/100 times you do not get. I think it says it all that the only teams yet to win a PL game this season are in the bottom 3, and all have taken points off each other, so they are very poor compared to the other 17 teams. Cardiff have a grand total of 0 points from teams above that dotted line. The only two points they have obtained have been against 10 men too. Harsh |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 12:20:22 GMT
From the outside looking in there seems to be a 'just happy to be there' vibe about the club (or Warnock atleast).Does anyone at the club actually believe they have a chance of staying up,i don't think they do.Out of intrest any young welsh player coming through their youth teams?
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 28, 2018 12:50:18 GMT
Cameron Coxe and Mark Harris seem to be the most likely to 'make it' although they are calling Sion Spence the new Rambo. Mind you we heard all this before with Tom James and Tommy O Sullivan. There is no pathway to the first team at Cardiff for young Welsh kids.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 28, 2018 14:17:22 GMT
From the outside looking in there seems to be a 'just happy to be there' vibe about the club (or Warnock atleast).Does anyone at the club actually believe they have a chance of staying up,i don't think they do.Out of intrest any young welsh player coming through their youth teams? That is exactly my impression. If they do have a plan to stay in the PL, they're going to have to give it a go, before even the other teams in the relegation zone accumulate sufficient points to cause an unbreachable gap that Cardiff will have no chance of bridging. I'm not sure they can remain quietly anonymous until the end of the season and then go out all guns blazing to finish in the top 17. We'll see how they fare as the season progresses. Might just be that Warnock has a plan up his sleave. |
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Post by biwmares on Sept 28, 2018 17:00:55 GMT
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 28, 2018 18:43:04 GMT
Newcastle didn't score a last minute penalty to win the game. To say 'should have beaten Newcastle' is laughable. Be grateful you got a point tbh. It's like my Newport County mate, saying their GD is rubbish. They scored a last min winner v Notts County after Notts County equalised late on. To me, this season, discount GD, that's two extra points 99/100 times you do not get. I think it says it all that the only teams yet to win a PL game this season are in the bottom 3, and all have taken points off each other, so they are very poor compared to the other 17 teams. Cardiff have a grand total of 0 points from teams above that dotted line. The only two points they have obtained have been against 10 men too. Harsh It's not harsh, it's the truth. Swansea haven't done amazing at home, 3 of the 4 games I've been bored tbh. Away we've got good results but the performances haven't always been good. There. |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Sept 29, 2018 19:35:19 GMT
Is it too early to say that the Cardiff v Burnley game tomorrow is a 6 pointer?
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Post by captaincabbages on Sept 29, 2018 19:55:02 GMT
No I think its probably fair to say that both of us will be down there at the end of the season. I dont like to think of these matches as must wins or anything like that though. Rather I see them as opportunities to prove to ourselves that we can compete at this level and perhaps stay up at the end of the season. Its obviously a big test, especially after what happened last week end. But every time this group of players were asked a question last season they came up with an answer so I am backing them to do the same tomorrow.
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 29, 2018 21:12:03 GMT
From the outside looking in there seems to be a 'just happy to be there' vibe about the club (or Warnock atleast).Does anyone at the club actually believe they have a chance of staying up,i don't think they do.Out of intrest any young welsh player coming through their youth teams? That is exactly my impression. If they do have a plan to stay in the PL, they're going to have to give it a go, before even the other teams in the relegation zone accumulate sufficient points to cause an unbreachable gap that Cardiff will have no chance of bridging. I'm not sure they can remain quietly anonymous until the end of the season and then go out all guns blazing to finish in the top 17. We'll see how they fare as the season progresses. Might just be that Warnock has a plan up his sleave. I think people might be overthinking it. I don’t think there’s a grand plan, the only way you can survive in the Premier League is to have more points than 3 others. Only way to get those points is to earn them each week. If Warnock is telling people at Cardiff to hang back in the league and then go all out at the end of the season he needs to be retired cause he’s lost his mind. The real reason they are struggling to pick up points is simply because they aren’t good enough to win matches at the minute. Hopefully the squad can gel, tactics work, personnel improve but there’s no cunning way to get to safety except earning points each week. |
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Post by welshiron on Sept 29, 2018 21:13:56 GMT
Not a 6 pointer, Burnley will be miserable by Christmas.
As for Cardiff, a great day for them today
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Post by iot on Sept 30, 2018 16:57:57 GMT
Gutted for Cardiff. They dominated the game, were positive from the off and created so many chances. Burnley didn't cause them hardly any problems at all, and yet Cardiff still lost! The real let down again is how easily they conceded those goals - the second one in particular where vokes had so much time in the box and there was no pressure on the crosser. For around 10mins after equalising, there were these massive gaps in midfield. It's been happening in every game I've seen, surely Warnock has to sort that out.
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Post by welshiron on Sept 30, 2018 17:10:25 GMT
Not a 6 pointer, Burnley will be mid table by Christmas. As for Cardiff, a great day for them today |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 30, 2018 18:24:15 GMT
Gutted for Cardiff. They dominated the game, were positive from the off and created so many chances. Burnley didn't cause them hardly any problems at all, and yet Cardiff still lost! The real let down again is how easily they conceded those goals - the second one in particular where vokes had so much time in the box and there was no pressure on the crosser. For around 10mins after equalising, there were these massive gaps in midfield. It's been happening in every game I've seen, surely Warnock has to sort that out. I think the powers that be at Cardiff are happy with a season in the Premier League and make a few quid. They'll be stronger next season in the Championship for another attempt (plus the parachute money that comes with relegation). |
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Post by pendragon on Sept 30, 2018 18:38:46 GMT
That is exactly my impression. If they do have a plan to stay in the PL, they're going to have to give it a go, before even the other teams in the relegation zone accumulate sufficient points to cause an unbreachable gap that Cardiff will have no chance of bridging. I'm not sure they can remain quietly anonymous until the end of the season and then go out all guns blazing to finish in the top 17. We'll see how they fare as the season progresses. Might just be that Warnock has a plan up his sleave. I think people might be overthinking it. I don’t think there’s a grand plan, the only way you can survive in the Premier League is to have more points than 3 others. Only way to get those points is to earn them each week. If Warnock is telling people at Cardiff to hang back in the league and then go all out at the end of the season he needs to be retired cause he’s lost his mind. The real reason they are struggling to pick up points is simply because they aren’t good enough to win matches at the minute. Hopefully the squad can gel, tactics work, personnel improve but there’s no cunning way to get to safety except earning points each week. I think you're right. But I imagine Warnock will be keeping a close eye on what's going on in the bottom four sides of the Premier League table. Or at least, I would like to think so.... |
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Post by manulike on Sept 30, 2018 21:55:27 GMT
Gutted for Cardiff. They dominated the game, were positive from the off and created so many chances. Burnley didn't cause them hardly any problems at all, and yet Cardiff still lost! The real let down again is how easily they conceded those goals - the second one in particular where vokes had so much time in the box and there was no pressure on the crosser. For around 10mins after equalising, there were these massive gaps in midfield. It's been happening in every game I've seen, surely Warnock has to sort that out. Agree with you completely. I thought that they were very creative against Arsenal, but at least then they managed two goals. They must have had at least 20-25 shots on goal and only one goal to show for it. Burnley deserved nothing from this game. But points are decided on goals - not on chances ;-(
Can only get better ;-)
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 1, 2018 7:21:46 GMT
Arter, Camarasa and Murphy are the only ones holding their own. The most alarming thing about this of course is that only one of them is a bona fide Cardiff player. I know it's very early but we could be heading for the record for the worst ever Premier league team, points wise.
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Post by garynysmon on Oct 1, 2018 14:44:52 GMT
The lack of Welsh players and prehistoric playing style makes Cardiff pretty unlikable in all honesty.
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Post by welshiron on Oct 1, 2018 15:51:32 GMT
Tin hat on.
16/1 Not to win a game, bit skinny.
1/5 to go down
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Post by claretcymro on Oct 1, 2018 16:52:04 GMT
Cardiff were unlucky or unfortunate not to get a point and I'm sure had they played like this in the Championship last season they would have picked up all three points.However they are now in the Premier League where they will every week compete against better organised teams and classier individuals. If they want a second season in this league they need to massively improve their defensive play and make better use of the limited chances they are likely to get in most matches as Burnley did today.Really pleased for Sam Vokes scoring with a clever little header with the only chance he had in the whole match, his 100th in the Premier League.
By the way Warnock was quite right when he said that the 'smaller' teams get nothing from Premier League refs - he must have been referring to Vokes being denied a penalty which had it been given would have been Burnley's first since the season before last
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Post by iot on Oct 1, 2018 18:12:28 GMT
A lot of people are talking about how unlucky Cardiff were after conceding with the only two chances given away, but they weren't unlucky at all in my view. Cardiff had to work so hard for all the chances they had, while burnley didn't have to work at all for their chances. They allowed Burnley through so easily for those two chances through a complete lack of organisation. Had they been a little tighter, they would have won that game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 18:24:22 GMT
I think Cardiff are still a championship side really,warnock really did perform a miracle getting them in the premier league and it almost seems like he thinks that too,personally I think Cardiff should quickly look elsewhere for a manager that at least will talk a fighting game and some spirit,seems Warnock is already resigned to relagation.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 1, 2018 21:02:37 GMT
Cardiff were unlucky or unfortunate not to get a point and I'm sure had they played like this in the Championship last season they would have picked up all three points.However they are now in the Premier League where they will every week compete against better organised teams and classier individuals. If they want a second season in this league they need to massively improve their defensive play and make better use of the limited chances they are likely to get in most matches as Burnley did today.Really pleased for Sam Vokes scoring with a clever little header with the only chance he had in the whole match, his 100th in the Premier League. By the way Warnock was quite right when he said that the 'smaller' teams get nothing from Premier League refs - he must have been referring to Vokes being denied a penalty which had it been given would have been Burnley's first since the season before last Vokes kicked his own leg. Never a penalty |
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Post by saints19 on Oct 1, 2018 21:29:38 GMT
Vokes's arm was clearly being pulled back, not enough contact in my view but seen them given - especially at Old Trafford.
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