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Post by welshiron on Mar 2, 2019 23:21:33 GMT
Or put another way trying to worm out of their responsibility on a technicality
CRASS
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Post by pendragon on Mar 3, 2019 20:22:25 GMT
What do you think should happen then? No investigation? Every major tragedy warrants an investigation and further action almost always ensues if negligence is found to have been caused by - or on behalf of - the other party. This is no different.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 4, 2019 17:30:23 GMT
Cardiff should pay what they owe Nantes.
If the investigation shows someone is at fault then they can take redress against them.
Nantes have done nothing wrong and probably need the money
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 4, 2019 20:54:46 GMT
Back on topic.
Looks like the South Wales Derby will be returning after a gap of 5 and a half years this autumn.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 5, 2019 8:35:37 GMT
That's something to look forward to.
Always a great advert for our country.
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Post by pendragon on Mar 10, 2019 12:41:09 GMT
Cardiff should pay what they owe Nantes. If the investigation shows someone is at fault then they can take redress against them. Nantes have done nothing wrong and probably need the money How do you know they've done "nothing wrong"? A pending court case will establish that. And no one is going to pay millions based solely on goodwill gestures. I see it from both sides of the argument but I can also appreciate that Cardiff might also feel "wronged" if their new top signing was found to have died as a result of an act or omission caused by someone working on behalf of the other party. Anyway, this is the last word from me on this subject. Spectacular win from Cardiff against West Ham yesterday  đź‘Ť |
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Post by iot on Mar 10, 2019 16:18:40 GMT
Your criticism does seem strange in this instance welshiron. It's just classic posturing from people that don't know any of the details, as is always the cases in these situations. All of this is so raw, but Cardiff can't part with 15 million before they know what actually happened. It's right for them to conduct an investigation first and discover whether another party is liable (I would assume they're looking at the agent rather than Nantes, which is probably why they just received the backlash from the agent last week), in order to know whether they have a case for compensation and who to make it against.
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Post by welshiron on Mar 10, 2019 21:00:02 GMT
You buy a house
Lightning strikes the house and it burns
You go back to the vendor for your money back ?
NO.
Nantes sold him to Cardiff
Cardiff pay Nantes
Cardiff sue anyone found responsible.
Why should Nantes lose out.
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Post by robin1864 on Mar 11, 2019 12:00:13 GMT
You buy a house Lightning strikes the house and it burns You go back to the vendor for your money back ? NO. Nantes sold him to Cardiff Cardiff pay Nantes Cardiff sue anyone found responsible. Why should Nantes lose out. Nantes won't lose out, they'll just have to wait until an investigation concludes. |
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Post by eppingblue on Mar 11, 2019 12:08:58 GMT
You buy a house Lightning strikes the house and it burns You go back to the vendor for your money back ? NO. Nantes sold him to Cardiff Cardiff pay Nantes Cardiff sue anyone found responsible. Why should Nantes lose out. The agent was employed on behalf of Nantes to act in these transfer dealings. If he was in anyway negligent in his dealings then Nantes could have a problem. Fault and responsibility can be two different things here. Using your house analogy, if a tree had blown over in your garden yesterday and crushed a car parked in the neighbouring street, it wouldn't be your fault but it would be your responsibility. So if McKays have not been thorough in the their organisation of this flight then there could be some contractual link to Nantes. In thorough, I think it would be reasonable to assume that they would have responsibility to use an experienced, licenced and properly insured operator. At the moment, there remains many questions over at least some of that. Had the flight not been given as a freebie and formed part of a separate contract then it maybe Nantes would more likely able to claim that it was separate to the transfer dealings. At the moment the payment for the flight was via the agents remuneration for the deal. Don't be surprised if the initial claims the flight was a freebie are changed in due course. The operator who I assume will be deemed to be Henderson will be toast and he might as well be hung for a cow as a sheep' If Sala had died in a third party plane crash, or in a car crash on his way to or from the airports then its likely we by now would be pursuing this via our own insurers. That may be happening anyway and will be why we're currently seeing is limited information coming out. That's apart from the Agent whom I'm surprised hasn't been silenced by his insurers. Take from that what you will. |
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Post by welshiron on Mar 28, 2019 7:23:55 GMT
If Cardiff do stay up I really hope they try and sign Ampadu, Smith and either WIlson or Woodburn on loan.
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Post by richierich333 on Mar 28, 2019 8:22:32 GMT
If Cardiff do stay up I really hope they try and sign Ampadu, Smith and either WIlson or Woodburn on loan. I think Lampard said that Sarri refused to loan him out. Absolutely no idea why though as he doesn't play. I'd love to see any of them play for Cardiff but probably won't happen. |
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 30, 2019 17:03:59 GMT
If Cardiff do stay up I really hope they try and sign Ampadu, Smith and either WIlson or Woodburn on loan.  |
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Post by manulike on Mar 30, 2019 18:32:31 GMT
If Cardiff do stay up I really hope they try and sign Ampadu, Smith and either WIlson or Woodburn on loan. Not sure they can afford Woody, as his agent has managed to negotiate a 12k a week deal ... two weeks afte THAT goal ...
Harry is still a bargain at 4k a week, though, so worth a risk ;-))
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Post by majorraglan on Mar 31, 2019 5:10:05 GMT
If Cardiff do stay up I really hope they try and sign Ampadu, Smith and either WIlson or Woodburn on loan. Yesterdays result for Burnley has put Cardiff under a lot of pressure, they are now effectively 6 points behind due to goal difference and need to pick up a minimum of 2wins to have any chance of staying up. They have a tough week ahead of them, with games against Chelsea and Man City this week followed by Burnley and Brighton. Personally, I think it’s beyond them unless they get pons from 1 of this weeks games. |
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Post by manulike on Mar 31, 2019 14:04:09 GMT
If Cardiff do stay up I really hope they try and sign Ampadu, Smith and either WIlson or Woodburn on loan. Yesterdays result for Burnley has put Cardiff under a lot of pressure, they are now effectively 6 points behind due to goal difference and need to pick up a minimum of 2wins to have any chance of staying up. They have a tough week ahead of them, with games against Chelsea and Man City this week followed by Burnley and Brighton. Personally, I think it’s beyond them unless they get pons from 1 of this weeks games. It does feel to me that the main relegation rival is now Brighton and not Burnley. Southhampton have the easiest run-in, so the bluebirds v Brighton away match will be a major decider.
Still do-able, although two or three points this week, will make it a lot simpler.
EDIT Oh. Maybe ... just maybe ...
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Post by dai on Mar 31, 2019 14:54:49 GMT
Idiots, thrown this game away. Chelsea have been bloody lucky, obvious offside and an 80% red card.
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Post by manulike on Mar 31, 2019 15:03:08 GMT
Idiots, thrown this game away. Chelsea have been bloody lucky, obvious offside and an 80% red card. ... and denied a stone wall pen in first half as well. #Daylight.robbery |
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 31, 2019 15:05:24 GMT
He was so far offside he was basically in fucking Swansea
Disgraceful performance from the ref, the players didn't deserve that but as we saw with Swansea the "big" (rich) clubs get the decisions
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 31, 2019 15:11:13 GMT
Idiots, thrown this game away. Chelsea have been bloody lucky, obvious offside and an 80% red card. You can't blame the Cardiff players for that, they gave everything only to be undone by a shocking performance from the officials |
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Post by aberbeeg on Mar 31, 2019 15:20:28 GMT
One of the worst performances from referee and linesman that I’ve seen in the PL. totally shocking
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Post by manulike on Mar 31, 2019 16:18:57 GMT
Cardiff City boss Neil Warnock, speaking to Sky Sports: "It's difficult because I am really flat. I am so proud of my players. To get let down by the officials... roll on VAR.
"We worked three weeks for this but to get let down by decisions... no major decisions went for us.
"They don't realise what is at stake. If I was a Burnley or a Brighton fan, they will be absolutely loving it today.
"It's not our fault an official can't see that, it is the most obvious offside I have ever seen or the most certain penalty I have ever seen.
"What goes through my mind? Is it payback time for me over the years?
"It's the best league in the world but the worst officials. They don't understand what is at stake. They shouldn't make mistakes at this level.
"Why am I working at 70 years of age for things like that to happen? It's not very often I am lost for words.
"My players feel like they have been kicked in the teeth. We've been kicked so many times. I don't deserve officials like that today. There is no excuse for that, it's criminal.
"if my players feel like they look in the dressing room, that's the end of our season. But how many times have we bounced back this season?"
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 31, 2019 19:08:04 GMT
I think that offside goal goes to show how poor refereeing is in England.
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Post by oscardelta on Mar 31, 2019 22:10:54 GMT
Crap ref. Bet he is not doing any game next weekend.
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Post by pendragon on Apr 1, 2019 0:20:06 GMT
Such a shame. And everything he says is bang on. I really felt for him and the players. Such a revealing and honest statement. Sounds like the players were absolutely gutted. I do indeed hope that they bounce back
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Post by manulike on Apr 6, 2019 13:35:49 GMT
The only good thing about today's win by Burnley, is that they no longer see the game next week as a must-win. Or, is that just me being optimistic ...
For City, it is a must not lose and then to beat BHA could be the ticket.
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Post by claretcymro on Apr 6, 2019 17:31:19 GMT
I can guarantee you that you are being optimistic.As a Burnley supporter I'm mightily relieved that today's win has gone a long way to lifting the threat of relegation but Sean Dyche will certainly be looking for another 3 points next week to seal the deal.Personally I hope Cardiff pick up enough points by the end of the season to send Brighton down.
Wearing my Welsh supporters hat it was a bit worrying the way Chris Mepham was physically outplayed by Barnes and Wood this afternoon.
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Post by cymroircarn on Apr 16, 2019 13:54:33 GMT
Pob lwc i Gaerdydd heno
Win or bust I’m afraid, and wining only keeps a glimmer of hope
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Post by welshiron on Apr 16, 2019 14:17:35 GMT
Would like to think if Cardiff went down they would start playing some Welsh youngsters.
However, with Warnock that wont happen.
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Post by dai on Apr 16, 2019 18:31:13 GMT
Is the game on sky or anything tonight?
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