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Post by joseywales37 on Aug 18, 2018 9:02:13 GMT
Tickets don’t seem to be selling. The old momentum over? How many sold so far ?
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Post by pendragon on Aug 18, 2018 9:05:18 GMT
I am not a big stats man ... but from what I remember of the last 6 or 7 international, both King and Lawrence played very well. The only exception was perhaps the ROI match, where no one stood out for us. I'm not saying that they should start - just that they should be in the running ... With regards to King in particular, his pass rate increased from something like 75% in the ROI match to around 87% during the last couple of international games. That would be my reason for starting him. I reckon Giggs will involve both players.
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Post by Albert on Aug 18, 2018 9:06:38 GMT
Tickets don’t seem to be selling. The old momentum over? Don't think it's that bad . Looks like there's at least 25k plus sold.
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Post by pendragon on Aug 18, 2018 9:08:39 GMT
Tickets don’t seem to be selling. The old momentum over? I'm sure that someone mentioned that we were at roughly the same stage in July last year when tickets were on sale for the ROI game. I haven't seen much mention of this game in the media though.
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Post by manulike on Aug 18, 2018 14:25:24 GMT
Tickets don’t seem to be selling. The old momentum over? Don't think it's that bad . Looks like there's at least 25k plus sold. I think 25k or maybe 26k sounds about right.
Hope after the Woman's victory v the old enemy, there will be a massive publicity upsurge and we will have a full house ;-)
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Post by irish on Aug 18, 2018 14:52:45 GMT
There might be the odd tackle thrown in here and there Can't see there being many goals in either of our matches. Talking of tackles, good to see Seamus Coleman back playing well, hopefully doesnt play well against us of course. Hopefully Wales will be wise to the dark arts this time around and show what we can do as an attacking side. Shame ticket sales are so poor, the atmosphere in the last game was incredible. I'd expect there to be near full capacity though by the time the match comes round. Doubt we'll bring our full allocation of away fans. I now it's early days but have Wales any injury concerns for the match so far?
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Post by Griff105 on Aug 18, 2018 16:08:31 GMT
Talking of tackles, good to see Seamus Coleman back playing well, hopefully doesnt play well against us of course. Hopefully Wales will be wise to the dark arts this time around and show what we can do as an attacking side. Shame ticket sales are so poor, the atmosphere in the last game was incredible. I'd expect there to be near full capacity though by the time the match comes round. Doubt we'll bring our full allocation of away fans. I now it's early days but have Wales any injury concerns for the match so far? !!!Alert - Attempted jinx!!!!
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Post by manulike on Aug 18, 2018 22:58:33 GMT
Talking of tackles, good to see Seamus Coleman back playing well, hopefully doesnt play well against us of course. Hopefully Wales will be wise to the dark arts this time around and show what we can do as an attacking side. Shame ticket sales are so poor, the atmosphere in the last game was incredible. I'd expect there to be near full capacity though by the time the match comes round. Doubt we'll bring our full allocation of away fans. I now it's early days but have Wales any injury concerns for the match so far? Our rock at the back, Chris Gunter is out injured and Neil Taylor is a shadow of the player he was against you guys. Hasn't played for Villa in months. Ashley Williams is old and rubbish and hardly played a game at Everton and is even struggling to get a game at Stoke.
The good people of Wales are hoping for a 17 year-old nobody to save us - and no, it's not Ben Woodburn (he is now 18) its a certain Ampadu. His dad played for Swansea ;-)
If you guys manage to set a couple of your "players" on Ben Davies, and take him out of the game, we will be a total walk over.
I imagine you beating us 4-0 maybe 4-1
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Post by welshiron on Aug 19, 2018 8:38:16 GMT
Ireland will also have a player they compare to Bale in importance.
We have no chance if Seamus Coleman plays
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Post by oscardelta on Aug 19, 2018 13:39:08 GMT
For me, you win your home matches and grab what you can away from home. Perhaps fans are putting excessive pressure on the players? I guess O’Neill isn’t a long term solution. Remind me who did better at home last time and then away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 13:42:16 GMT
Why? Don’t you know the scores?
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Post by oscardelta on Aug 19, 2018 13:43:33 GMT
I'd expect there to be near full capacity though by the time the match comes round. Doubt we'll bring our full allocation of away fans. I now it's early days but have Wales any injury concerns for the match so far? Our rock at the back, Chris Gunter is out injured and Neil Taylor is a shadow of the player he was against you guys. Hasn't played for Villa in months. Ashley Williams is old and rubbish and hardly played a game at Everton and is even struggling to get a game at Stoke.
The good people of Wales are hoping for a 17 year-old nobody to save us - and no, it's not Ben Woodburn (he is now 18) its a certain Ampadu. His dad played for Swansea ;-)
If you guys manage to set a couple of your "players" on Ben Davies, and take him out of the game, we will be a total walk over.
I imagine you beating us 4-0 maybe 4-1
Think we will be lucky to see a goal in either game.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Aug 19, 2018 13:44:53 GMT
The game will sell out and Wales will win.
I'm Colemans biggest fan but we were far to defensive throughout the last campaign especially against the Irish Rugby team at home.
Giggs again I'm not his greatest fan but he is growing on me a little, will have us set up more attacking and I think we will have to much for them.
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Post by cadno on Aug 19, 2018 16:05:21 GMT
The game will sell out and Wales will win. I'm Colemans biggest fan but we were far to defensive throughout the last campaign especially against the Irish Rugby team at home. Giggs again I'm not his greatest fan but he is growing on me a little, will have us set up more attacking and I think we will have to much for them. Agree 100%
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Post by cadno on Aug 19, 2018 16:08:30 GMT
Something like... HennesseyChester Ash Mepham Roberts Allen Ledley Davies Ramsey Bale Lawrence Brooks/Wilson/Woodburn/G.Edwards/Hal/Vokes etc etc... plenty of options to come on and change the game!
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Post by cymro on Aug 19, 2018 16:10:25 GMT
The game should definitely be a sell out come the day. Time to put right the results last campaign and get the giggs era to a great start. We'll come out with a point to prove and the Irish are due a down period after punching above their weight for a good couple of years, with animosity seemingly growing amongst the fans and squad. I'll be very disappointed if we don't win this one. 0 wins against this Irish team in 3 attempts over 18 months would be piss poor.
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Post by cymroircarn on Aug 19, 2018 16:47:55 GMT
The game should definitely be a sell out come the day. Time to put right the results last campaign and get the giggs era to a great start. We'll come out with a point to prove and the Irish are due a down period after punching above their weight for a good couple of years, with animosity seemingly growing amongst the fans and squad. I'll be very disappointed if we don't win this one. 0 wins against this Irish team in 3 attempts over 18 months would be piss poor. Screw 18 months, haven’t we not beaten them since something like 1992?!
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Post by joseywales37 on Aug 19, 2018 16:49:18 GMT
Something like... HennesseyChester Ash Mepham Roberts Allen Ledley Davies Ramsey Bale Lawrence Brooks/Wilson/Woodburn/G.Edwards/Hal/Vokes etc etc... plenty of options to come on and change the game! Would be tempted Ampadu over Ledley after last 2 Wales performances and Ampadu just makes me confident he will play good even with lack 1st team action.
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Post by Albert on Aug 19, 2018 17:04:33 GMT
Something like... HennesseyChester Ash Mepham Roberts Allen Ledley Davies Ramsey Bale Lawrence Brooks/Wilson/Woodburn/G.Edwards/Hal/Vokes etc etc... plenty of options to come on and change the game! Would be tempted Ampadu over Ledley after last 2 Wales performances and Ampadu just makes me confident he will play good even with lack 1st team action. Agree with this plus he was substituted against Leeds half time ," midfield was lost" according to lampard and not even on the bench on .Saturday
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Post by ae15 on Aug 19, 2018 17:18:40 GMT
My 23 man squad:
GK: Hennessey, Ward, Maxwell (pretty poor options at the moment, got to say) DF: Gunter, Roberts, Chester, Mepham, Williams, Davies, John MF: Ampadu, Ledley, Allen, Ramsey, King, Brooks, Evans FW: Bale, Wilson, Lawrence, Vokes, Robson-Kanu, Woodburn
On form, the starting line up is quite clear:
Hennessey Roberts Chester Mepham Davies Ampadu Allen Brooks Ramsey Lawrence Bale
But, if Gunter is fit, I'm sure he'll start, and that's not very disagreeable.
I really think we should be trying to faze out the likes of Ledley and King if we want to be building a progressive team for the future though.
King has always looked a square peg in a round hole in this side, while Ledley seems to be going that way too. His performance in Mexico was truly atrocious sadly, and what I've seen of him so far this season at Derby hasn't been much better.
I've always thought he's been the best fit for this side in midfield, but I think we should use this period of upcoming half-competitiveness to blood the likes of Ampadu, Wilson and Brooks into this side as soon as possible ready for the main event next year - Euro 2020 qualifying.
It's clear they are the future, so let's give them this time to get them warmed up.
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Post by alarch on Aug 19, 2018 18:21:22 GMT
I don't think you can start with 4 rookies. Ashley Williams' experience and leadership shouldn't be discounted, so I'd start him - although there might be some mileage in Mepham playing in a back three. The same argument goes for Ledley and Ampadu. Although Ampadu is very much the future, and perhaps the near future, Ledley has been solid for Wales for a while now. I'd start with Ledley, but bring Ampadu on, especially with the game in Denmark in mind.
Gunter should start if available, but Roberts should be an able deputy - very much an old head on young shoulders. I'd also like to see Brooks start - a bit of a gamble, but a gamble worth taking in my estimation.
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Post by iot on Aug 19, 2018 18:41:35 GMT
My 23 man squad: GK: Hennessey, Ward, Maxwell (pretty poor options at the moment, got to say) DF: Gunter, Roberts, Chester, Mepham, Williams, Davies, John MF: Ampadu, Ledley, Allen, Ramsey, King, Brooks, Evans FW: Bale, Wilson, Lawrence, Vokes, Robson-Kanu, Woodburn On form, the starting line up is quite clear: Hennessey Roberts Chester Mepham Davies Ampadu Allen Brooks Ramsey Lawrence Bale But, if Gunter is fit, I'm sure he'll start, and that's not very disagreeable. I really think we should be trying to faze out the likes of Ledley and King if we want to be building a progressive team for the future though. King has always looked a square peg in a round hole in this side, while Ledley seems to be going that way too. His performance in Mexico was truly atrocious sadly, and what I've seen of him so far this season at Derby hasn't been much better. I've always thought he's been the best fit for this side in midfield, but I think we should use this period of upcoming half-competitiveness to blood the likes of Ampadu, Wilson and Brooks into this side as soon as possible ready for the main event next year - Euro 2020 qualifying. It's clear they are the future, so let's give them this time to get them warmed up. I can see the appeal, but I think that's very much a fan's team which managers would never go for. Whilst it does manage to get in all our best players, it lacks balance and lacks a focal point in my opinion. I can't see that front four working, they would all want to pick up similar positions on the edge of the box / down the channels. While Vokes and HRK are far poorer players, we need one of them instead of either Brooks or Lawrence to provide a different dynamic - someone who Bale, Rambo and co can play off.
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Post by ae15 on Aug 19, 2018 22:56:45 GMT
My 23 man squad: GK: Hennessey, Ward, Maxwell (pretty poor options at the moment, got to say) DF: Gunter, Roberts, Chester, Mepham, Williams, Davies, John MF: Ampadu, Ledley, Allen, Ramsey, King, Brooks, Evans FW: Bale, Wilson, Lawrence, Vokes, Robson-Kanu, Woodburn On form, the starting line up is quite clear: Hennessey Roberts Chester Mepham Davies Ampadu Allen Brooks Ramsey Lawrence Bale But, if Gunter is fit, I'm sure he'll start, and that's not very disagreeable. I really think we should be trying to faze out the likes of Ledley and King if we want to be building a progressive team for the future though. King has always looked a square peg in a round hole in this side, while Ledley seems to be going that way too. His performance in Mexico was truly atrocious sadly, and what I've seen of him so far this season at Derby hasn't been much better. I've always thought he's been the best fit for this side in midfield, but I think we should use this period of upcoming half-competitiveness to blood the likes of Ampadu, Wilson and Brooks into this side as soon as possible ready for the main event next year - Euro 2020 qualifying. It's clear they are the future, so let's give them this time to get them warmed up. I can see the appeal, but I think that's very much a fan's team which managers would never go for. Whilst it does manage to get in all our best players, it lacks balance and lacks a focal point in my opinion. I can't see that front four working, they would all want to pick up similar positions on the edge of the box / down the channels. While Vokes and HRK are far poorer players, we need one of them instead of either Brooks or Lawrence to provide a different dynamic - someone who Bale, Rambo and co can play off. In my view, Robson-Kanu is the only player who has been able to do that role for us, but it looks like Giggs doesn't fancy him. Vokes has always been a square peg in a round hole in this side, he has rarely got the best out of Ramsey and Bale. Our best attacking performances (barring Russia, in which they were a side of self-destruction), have come with Hal up front. Vokes is a very good option to have on the bench if we need to change things up but, with him, the team is far less balanced in my opinion, as his attributes fit a completely different style of play. We have so many bright attacking talents at the moment, and playing Vokes (or playing a back 5 for that matter) would massively reduce our potential going forwards. With Ampadu in the side, Allen has a much greater freedom to roam in the areas between their midfield and defence, something he has being doing excellently in recent seasons. Ledley has been often a sacrificial passenger in the side, used as a necessary extra defensive midfielder despite his deficiencies on the ball. He was very good in that role going into, and at, the Euros. But over the course of the WC qualifiers his passing ability seemingly faded, and in the Mexico game he looked completely off the pace too. Allen has had to restrict himself to simply a link between defence and attack as Ledley hasn't had the ability to play this role. This resulted in the opposing team being able to drop an extra midfielder into the space that Ramsey and Bale needed more freedom in. I honestly believe a free Allen would mean we could create so many more chances than we have over the last few years. With regards to Mepham v Williams, I don't think for a second Ash won't start in the Ireland game, nor would I blame Giggs for that decision. It may be that Ash comes good again this season and becomes a rock at the back for Stoke. But given the way he's played in the last year or so, and the apparent drop in his physical abilties, I can't see it personally. He's going to be 34 next week, I can't see him being anywhere near the level of Mepham by the time of Euro 2020. Maybe give him the Nations League games to see if he still has it, but I fully expect to see Mepham in the friendlies.
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Post by manulike on Aug 20, 2018 19:40:20 GMT
ARRIVA TRAIN BACK TO NORTH WALES - sadly, not looking promising ;-( Click on link to see actual conversation...
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Post by superunknown on Aug 20, 2018 21:44:35 GMT
Beyond a joke how bad Arriva are. Luckily I'm staying over in Cardiff but I know many fans will be looking to plan trains and such back after the match which is now impossible thanks to Arriva's incompetence.
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Post by Martyn Moses on Aug 21, 2018 12:55:08 GMT
There is a new company taking over the rail network in October , maybe they will provide a better service ?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 21, 2018 23:11:59 GMT
My squad for Ireland based on current form and fitness.
GK: Hennessey, Ward, Maxwell DEF: Gunter, Roberts, Williams, Chester, Mepham, Dummett, Davies, John MID: Allen, Ramsey, Ampadu, Evans, King, Ledley ATT: Bale, Vokes, Brooks, Lawrence, Edwards, Woodburn
Haven't been this excited for a squad announcement since the Euros.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Aug 22, 2018 9:33:39 GMT
There is a new company taking over the rail network in October , maybe they will provide a better service ? Yes KeolisAmey, they run the Greater Manchester Metrolink, London Docklands Light Railway and Nottingham's Tramway, so have experience of UK transport. Its mainly owned by SNCF the French railway operator and has contracts in a number of other countries abroad, inlcuding; Australia, Belgium, Canada, China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Qatar, Sweden & the United States. So im sure manulike will have some first hand experience of their operations.
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Post by manulike on Aug 22, 2018 9:59:44 GMT
There is a new company taking over the rail network in October , maybe they will provide a better service ? Yes KeolisAmey, they run the Greater Manchester Metrolink, London Docklands Light Railway and Nottingham's Tramway, so have experience of UK transport. Its mainly owned by SNCF the French railway operator and has contracts in a number of other countries abroad, inlcuding; Australia, Belgium, Canada, China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Qatar, Sweden & the United States. So im sure manulike will have some first hand experience of their operations. Never been to Qatar, but looking forward to going with the Red Wall in 2022 ;-)
Been to all the other countries and used trains in all of them, with the exception of Luxembourg, where I was in my car...
Looks promising ;-)
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Post by gwernybwch on Aug 22, 2018 19:25:08 GMT
I have three tickets for sale for the game - Canton End Block 106.
They are two adults tickets and one childs. The childs ticket can be upgraded at the stadium (although there is nothing to stop an adult using a childs ticket).
I'm looking for £50 ono for all three. I can post them. PM me if interested.
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