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Post by jimexotic on Dec 25, 2022 13:16:37 GMT
I'm no Levitt fanboy but you stick him in that Celtic side and he's probably getting compared to Modric.
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Post by talyfan on Dec 25, 2022 21:30:42 GMT
Okay, watched the full ninety minutes of their 2-2 draw vs Hearts. Primarily focusing on Levitt. I will hold my hands up, recommend to anyone on here to watch him play a full match, technically he is some player. Dundee Utd, set up in a 343. Levitt was alongside Djouma both operating as what I would describe as box to box midfielders in the midfield two. As game progressed when Dundee Utd took lead and under the cosh a bit their right winger Harkes tended to drop in centrally when out of possesion to create a midfield three. Overall game was a bit all action, neither team creating many clear cut chances nor were controlling the game so much that they were sufficating the opposition. As menioned Dundee Utd under pressure nearing as the game went on as Hearts chasing a goal back. Both teams played virtually the same way of knocking 3 to 5 passes, play a forward ball and challenge for the second ball up the pitch and knock downs, I don't think you'd expect anything else from teams outside the big two. Shame about the Hearts penalty at the end as they could desperatley do with a win since they're at the bottom of the table. Anyway more importantly focusing on Levitt's performance. I will hold my hands up, he is some player and should be included. Technically brilliant, I know not playing at the best level, but regardless there are qualtities that hold up the same regardless of what standard your playing at. One of which he has a great ability of being under pressure having his back towards a defender when receiving a ball then can either make brilliant pass first time or receive and play a key ball on the half turn either from deep or within the opposition half. Good- Covered virtually every blade of grass, he can muck in defensively, do the work off the ball and at the same time get forward into the oppostion box. He was absolutely goosed by the time he came off but he wasn't running for the sake of running every movement he made had purpose.
- Great under pressure, beats a press by dropping his shoulder and getting away from danger or playing a key pass unlocking defences.
- The goal. Absolutely sublime. Started the move and finished it off. Receive the ball under pressure again back toward defender. Brought it down under pressure, got himself some space and barely had any time to look up but in a split second played a magnificent ball through, got into a good attacking position and finished outside the 18 yard box in the bottom right corner. Now how many of our other central midfielders could do that?
- Counted it up, played about 7 key passes and potential chances. Real good mix too of crosses from deep, lofted balls in, playing balls from deep and cut through balls in oppostion half. Good mix not just one type
- Gets on the ball and will happily receive it and most of the time it was positive, very much forward on not sideways or backward unless nothing else on.
BadDon't think it'd be a fair assesment if I didn't bring up any bad points. But in all honesty I'm nit picking. The ratings he had online for this game are a fair reflection of the good game he had in my opinion. - Misplaced one or two passes but what professional footballer doesn't? More probably to do with him being a bit rusty with his first game back.
- Set pieces. He seems to be there main man takes inswinging corners and most free kick. Only gripe was at times he didn't clear the front post or didn't get enough weight on the free kick to ask questions but again maybe down to being rusty?
I'll try and watch him again this month. But after that game, I'm suprised he didn't see the pitch at the world cup. Think he would do great alongside Ampadu and we should persist. If Page wants energy Dylan offers that but not only that he's got that creative ability in key areas of the pitch we missed at times, if he's able to replicate what he did in that match in a Wales shirt. It's one game and not suggesting he's the second coming of Jesus but it was very positive and if he can continue playing like that. he should be starting for us at the moment. Particulalry if we're looking to phase out Joe Allen and not to say Morrell doesn't have a place but Dylan offers just as much defensively as him but going forward and technically there is no competition Levitt is streets ahead and probably ahead of Joe Allen too to be honest. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 25, 2022 23:28:18 GMT
You feel with Levitt that we either need to commit and make him the starter and see if he really kicks on or find someone else who can. We need something to change in our midfield, and maybe Levitt can help us keep the ball more?
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Post by talyfan on Dec 26, 2022 7:33:13 GMT
I'm well and truly converted. If I'm suggesting an XI he's in the team.
Re: Croatia
I think we've got to give it a go. He's never actually played much in these important matches after looking at his caps. A cameo appearance in the last Euros and some minutes in the nation league but yet to really play when it matters.
Particularly where I think we'll get less of the ball. We need players who can do more with less. He's got it in his locker to unlock a defence with a single pass which is hell of a tool in a game like that.
I think he can definitely play as a deep lying playmaker but really do think he'd flourish when he's got a bit of license to attack more and get forward where he is dangerous.
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 26, 2022 8:09:06 GMT
Cracking review of his performance talyfan thanks for that. Not sure chucking him in the deep end against an experienced Croatia midfield is wise but I’d be happy to see him start against Latvia. If he does well then same against Armenia and potentially Turkey away.
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Post by hooky on Dec 26, 2022 17:09:05 GMT
Cracking review of his performance talyfan thanks for that. Not sure chucking him in the deep end against an experienced Croatia midfield is wise but I’d be happy to see him start against Latvia. If he does well then same against Armenia and potentially Turkey away. I do disagree. There needs to be a changing of the guard and the sooner the better. What is more, our midfield is extremely mediocre. On paper you can pick Allen and Ampadu as our defensive two, but Allen is in decline and likely to miss a fair few matches with injuries and unless Rodon develops a better understanding of the game then we may want to use the option of playing Amapdu in defence in big matches. Really hope Brooks makes a strong recovery from illness and Harris steps up his development in the next year or two as we need an attacking replacement for Ramsey. |
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Post by paj on Dec 26, 2022 17:46:35 GMT
Good post. Huge Joe Allen fan and think he has another campaign in him but I think levitt and Colwill need to be given a run of games together.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Dec 27, 2022 2:44:14 GMT
We need to cool it with the Modric comparisons though. He's currently catching the eye but in a competition where the standard is mostly, as the Scots would say, shite. You can see from the YT highlights how much time and space the players enjoy up there, it's like watching League One football. Yeah he looks promising but right now I'd settle for him having a solid career as a decent Championship-level player.
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Post by hooky on Dec 27, 2022 11:26:39 GMT
Look the best we should hope for is that he is eventually good enough to command a starting place in a bottom half premiership team.
However, to achieve that he needs to be more consistent, a bit more physical and develop parts of his game. Most of all he needs to retain a positive attitude that devotes his life to football. Who knows how hard he is working at his football! Look at Woodburn, we hear stories but who knows why he has not kicked on as we expected - some say attitude, some say fondness for alcohol and some say he is a bit small / under powered. What we do know is that he has had quite a few untimely injuries. Lets hope he kicks on at Preston.
One thing we should do is keep expectations over Levitt very low right now - he is playing for the bottom team in the Scottish premiership after all!
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Post by dai on Dec 27, 2022 13:17:35 GMT
Modric / Levitt........dear lord.
The guy was sold for like 200k to an average SPL side - some of our ladies are worth more money (not being sexist, just trying to highlight his level here). I don't mean this to come across as nasty, but from a Welsh squad perspective, he's dining on a youth career at Man Utdl. If he was an ex-lower PL, or Ch'ship player, he wouldn't be getting a look in at all.
Ryan Hedges has been a standout player in the SPL, and Doidge was a very good CF/striker for Hibs, but I don't recall people saying we should call them up - in fact a large section of our fan base have been pretty snobby about calling SPL based players.
He's had 13 caps for Wales, 1 or 2 decent games, the rest very average, and in 3 or 4 he's been the worst player on the pitch. Is this really the future of our midfield? I hope not. He's also 22, hardly a youngster by modern day standards. Time to give others a chance now.
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 27, 2022 13:25:43 GMT
I'm no Levitt fanboy but you stick him in that Celtic side and he's probably getting compared to Modric. This was very much aimed at the how much more playing in the Celtic side would make him look better than him being anywhere near the level of player that Modric has been over the last 10-12 years. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 27, 2022 13:29:58 GMT
Modric / Levitt........dear lord. The guy was sold for like 200k to an average SPL side - some of our ladies are worth more money (not being sexist, just trying to highlight his level here). I don't mean this to come across as nasty, but from a Welsh squad perspective, he's dining on a youth career at Man Utdl. If he was an ex-lower PL, or Ch'ship player, he wouldn't be getting a look in at all. Ryan Hedges has been a standout player in the SPL, and Doidge was a very good CF/striker for Hibs, but I don't recall people saying we should call them up - in fact a large section of our fan base have been pretty snobby about calling SPL based players. He's had 13 caps for Wales, 1 or 2 decent games, the rest very average, and in 3 or 4 he's been the worst player on the pitch. Is this really the future of our midfield? I hope not. He's also 22, hardly a youngster by modern day standards. Time to give others a chance now. You're massively overselling Doidge here, he had one decent season for Hibs. Hedges was called up when he was at Aberdeen. You're also rewriting history a bit, plenty called for Doidge/Hedges to be called up, a quick glance at Doidge's thread will tell you that I'm no lover of Levitt, but he's clearly improved and is one of the few players playing regular football, this post is bizarrely harsh |
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 27, 2022 13:40:41 GMT
Can you imagine if Kieffer Moore had been written off by 22?
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Post by dai on Dec 27, 2022 14:06:11 GMT
Can you imagine if Kieffer Moore had been written off by 22? Not writing him off. I'm saying he's currently not good enough, and judging by his performances for us, far from the midfield future right now. |
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Post by talyfan on Dec 27, 2022 18:37:57 GMT
dai watch him play a full ninety at the moment honestly I would recommend it to anyone. I know SPL not a great league but as I said there are qualities in a player that transcends standard of opposition regardless. The likes of Morrell, Allen and the like can't do what he can on the ball and they couldn't if they played in the SPL either. That 300k fee also includes add ons and a 25% sell on clause. Which is a hefty amount if Dundee Utd can get a few quid for him. Don't think Man Utd would've included if they didn't think he was promising Too soon to write off but at the same time appreciate your point of view too early to say where he'll end up playing and see if he'll meet our imposed expectations of him. In my eyes, we've got no one else coming through who could step up. Think it's worth giving him a run out in important matches and see if he's up to much like we've done with Ampadu, Allen and Ramsey before him.
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Post by rushy on Dec 27, 2022 19:57:13 GMT
The real concerning aspect of this, is what appears to be the lack of quality coming through for future selection judging by those players being mentioned here, which obviously does not bode well . If we go back three or four years there was real promise and optimism , with players like Ampadu, Brooks, Rodon, James, Roberts and maybe Woodburn and Wilson as examples of having the potential , however none of them have kicked on to become regulars in the top flight, with Brooks as the one exception who has been most unfortunate under the circumstances.
There is still time for a couple of these to improve and they will have to if they have any ambition to play in the EPL, which is where we need a nucleus of players to be playing on a regular basis, to have any chance of Wales qualifying for tournaments in the coming years.
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 29, 2022 13:39:19 GMT
Levitt with an assist yesterday as Dundee Utd pulled themselves off of the bottom of the table.
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Post by rushy on Dec 29, 2022 19:37:59 GMT
Levitt with an assist yesterday as Dundee Utd pulled themselves off of the bottom of the table. He took a corner . |
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 29, 2022 20:26:07 GMT
Levitt with an assist yesterday as Dundee Utd pulled themselves off of the bottom of the table. He took a corner . That's basically Sorba's career but I still weirdly get excited when he does that so Dylan can add this one to the scrapbook! Funnily enough I'm actually wearing my Sorba t-shirt as I type, I really bought into him and got on that hype train, I hope it's not over just yet. |
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Post by morg on Jan 29, 2023 15:48:46 GMT
Starts against Celtic at 4pm
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Jan 29, 2023 17:52:03 GMT
Subbed off after 74 minutes.
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Post by morg on Jan 29, 2023 19:23:01 GMT
Watched the first half hour until Wrexham started. DU were very much second best but I would have had him as their best player. Pressed hard in defence and used the ball intelligently.
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Post by talyfan on Feb 1, 2023 22:16:12 GMT
Shame Dundee Utd are bottom of SPL now after losing to Kilmarnock. Still a lot of footy to play.
Hopefully he can get a decent move in the summer.
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 1, 2023 23:46:27 GMT
Around 40 years go Dundee Utd were one of the best sides in Europe, crazy how far they've fallen and how much the game has progressed and, through no real fault of their own, they've stayed relatively still.
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 2, 2023 4:00:44 GMT
Around 40 years go Dundee Utd were one of the best sides in Europe, crazy how far they've fallen and how much the game has progressed and, through no real fault of their own, they've stayed relatively still. Nothing to do with Wales but One of my favourite what if moments in football www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/liverpool-vs-roma-champions-league-dundee-united-1984-bribe-cheat-final-a8318431.html?amp Imagine they won it instead of being screwed by cheating that was admitted to decades later. A generation of Scottish footballers may of grown up dreaming of playing for them, maybe all of Dundee would’ve supported them leaving Dundee to become a minnow, certainly would’ve had more money so they could’ve won more league titles. At the very least they could’ve done what Aberdeen has been doing and picking up the odd cup here and there. I imagine the old firm would still be the same history from 2000s onwards but the 90s could’ve been very different up there |
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 18, 2023 16:38:26 GMT
Scored today. May well be starting out in Split at this rate
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Post by manulike on Feb 18, 2023 21:35:49 GMT
Scored today. May well be starting out in Split at this rate
He must be reading our thread about the lack in mid-field ;-)
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Post by hooky on Feb 18, 2023 23:49:15 GMT
He certainly scored some great goals doesn't he?
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Post by talyfan on Mar 8, 2023 19:36:28 GMT
dragonsoccer reporting he's injured. Length of time out yet to be determined. Will miss qualifiers. Fans on twitter saying he might be out for the season.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 8, 2023 19:45:52 GMT
Interesting, would have made the squad imo, but now I feel it's unclear who might get drafted in. Maybe it will be Matt Smith, but I'd be tempted to go for more of a wildcard option like Charlie Savage. If Terry Taylor, Tom Lowery or MJ Williams were fit I'd go for them, but seems we're actually in a bit of a midfield injury crisis with Levitt now out as well
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